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On 10/5/2022 at 6:27 AM, DogOnPorch said:

 

How many of those STILL keep their SS around? To be fair.....

If you're asking how many still have SS units as part of their military structure i would say none,

But i bet every western nation has groups of civilians that are part of groups or organizations that do follow or are part of a NAZI doctrine enough to make up a single unit or regiment size unit. Which includes Canada. The question would be do we allow them to defend their country when invaded. or do they get a pass. 

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

They'll have the winter to train and re-equip though.

Yes, but they have to last through winter and hold what they have, and that seems unlikely without reinforcements.  Many of these recruits are going to be exactly what everyone is calling them - cannon fodder.  

Russia doesn't have the capacity to properly train 300,000 or more recruits even over the winter.  Come March they will still be substandard in training and equipment.  There's almost no way these units aren't vastly inferior to the units Russia already lost.  

1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

Beave makes a valid point about supply lines being cut in some areas, but they can train closer to Russia and wait for spring.

I heard the expectation was the Ukrainian counter-offensive would slow and possibly even stop in the winter from a Ukrainian analyst.

Likely.  Winter is a great equalizer.  First you have the wet and muddy season where vehicles get stuck and troops are wet and uncomfortable at all times.  Next it all freezes and you can no longer dig trenches or foxholes, your extremities freeze (along with your equipment and vehicles) and you're just generally cold and miserable.  

I don't think time is on Russia's side, however.  By March 2023, Ukraine's army will still be highly motivated and experienced and substantially better equipped than when this started.  In the meantime, Russian bodybags will continue coming home, an obvious challenge to Kremlin propaganda that will continue to fray Putin's narrative about things going well.  

 

Remember No Russian | This Is Fine | Know Your Meme

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Wow.  Talk about projecting your own failures on others.  If you can't see the parallel between Hitler and Czechoslovakia, and then Putin and the Donbass, you're a special little boy.  

and all of the other sources in Europe, the middle east, south-east asia, south america etc.  

Getting your news from Telegram is so much better ?

This is a funny coping mechanism.  Poor little Nationalist.  Everything he thought he knew about Stronk Putin the hero of conspiracy clowns everywhere, is being proven wrong.  

Blah blah, woof woof.

What I see...is insane hypocrisy and a nice mound of lies.

Libbies carry on about the climate. "People will die!" You claim. Same with masks, Rona restrictions and the vaccine. Yet each and every one of you cheer on as war continues in Ukraine. Pure hypocrisy. 

"Were defending Democracy!"

Horseshit! What was one of the first things our little comic-boy zelinski did? Take absolute control of Ukrainian news media. They were denied entry to NATO. Why? Because the way they operate is...much like the Russians. Which is not surprising because about 20% of the "Ukrainian" population...are Russians. Hell their last president was a Russian. I've said from the beginning of this...Shakespearian comedy...pun intended...

"These 2 "nations" deserve each other. Stay the hell out of it!" 

But no. Instead we've poured billions into a bottomless pit of Russians...and Russians...fighting over...Russians.

Now one of the Russians...the big one with nuclear missiles aimed at all of us no less...threatens to use them if we don't stay out of his little war with the other Russians. The ones our NATO leaders denied.

Finally...the 2 gas pipelines from Big Russia...get sabatoged. Big Russia sends people to investigate and say they can fix it. Meanwhile our side it busily finding out who done it.

Who done it? Well...Biden did say if Big Russia attacks Little Russia, that those pipelines will not operate. Blinken thinks this is an "opportunity". Huh...guess who done it...

And STILL you ignorant little twerps egg on increased involvement. You possess the mentality of a brick. The vision of a zombie. You are hypocrites and liars. 

 

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Posted
6 hours ago, Boges said:

And who spoon feeds you your drivel? Oh right! The Kremlin. 

You totally think Appeasing Putin is a good idea and he'll totally stop at Annexing Ukraine. I hear Moldova has a lot of Russians too. 

I like Redacted.

I could give a rat's ass if Putin lives or dies. I feel the same for Zelinski.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted (edited)
48 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Well for who? You?

Jack-ass...

 

For your buddy Putin. No.

For Ukrainians fighting for the existence of their country. Yes.

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Posted
22 hours ago, Aristides said:

Ah, Bone Saw bin Salman. Another guy who makes opponents disappear. A man after your dear leader's heart. Nuf said.

Confirmed US has boots on the ground in Ukraine despite Biden administration denials. Russian parliament makes Donbass annexation official. Putin launching massive military mobilization.

 

 

Posted
Just now, athos said:

Confirmed US has boots on the ground in Ukraine despite Biden administration denials. Russian parliament makes Donbass annexation official. Putin launching massive military mobilization.

 

 

Bullshit.

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Blah blah, woof woof.

What I see...is insane hypocrisy and a nice mound of lies.

You see what you want to see, and literally nothing but.  Putin is the good guy...yup yup.  ?

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Libbies carry on about the climate. "People will die!" You claim. Same with masks, Rona restrictions and the vaccine. Yet each and every one of you cheer on as war continues in Ukraine. Pure hypocrisy. 

Nothing hypocritical about it.  The fact that you can't differentiate it is a testament to your poor reasoning skills.  

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

"Were defending Democracy!"

Horseshit! What was one of the first things our little comic-boy zelinski did? Take absolute control of Ukrainian news media. They were denied entry to NATO. Why? Because the way they operate is...much like the Russians. 

They were denied entry for a lot of reasons, the most important of which was that NATO figured Ukraine was a likely target for Russia and didn't want to make guarantees to a nation in imminent danger of invasion.  Turns out they were right!

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

"These 2 "nations" deserve each other. Stay the hell out of it!" 

But no. Instead we've poured billions into a bottomless pit of Russians...and Russians...fighting over...Russians.

Ukrainians aren't Russians, nor do they want to be.  They have hundreds of years of separate history and if you exerted yourself to reading anything outside of Kremlin telegram feeds, you'd know that.  The fact that you're sitting here all upset and paraphrasing nothing but Kremlin commentary tells us everything we need to know where you're getting your information from.  

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Now one of the Russians...the big one with nuclear missiles aimed at all of us no less...threatens to use them if we don't stay out of his little war with the other Russians. The ones our NATO leaders denied.

Little Vlad can rage and threaten all he wants.  If "LET US DO WHAT WE WANT OR WE NUKE" is his strategy, it's going to fail.  There are enough Russians with families that won't sign on for nuclear apocalypse just to support their delusional dictator.  You can cry and carry on all you like about it, but nobody's fooled by what you're saying.  You're a Putin lickspittle and that's what really matters to you here.  You just can't cope with how horrifically he's faceplanted here.  

Edited by Moonbox

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Posted

Zelenskiy has called NATO to hit Russia with nukes, preemptively.  I’m also hearing that the US has a military presence in Ukraine.  
 

And, as expected, Russia has started a major offensive.  Oh, is this the wrong thread for that?   This is the Russian military collapsing thread, sorry about that.

Posted

The Biden administration also has been buying up drugs for radiation sickness, according to  the administration for strategic preparedness and response.

As if Russia would commit suicide by nuking the US...

Posted
55 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Looks more like the daily count of Russian army units surrendering 

Jailed Australian journalist, human right and freedom activist explains:
"How Russian Government helped me get out of Australian PRISON!"


Unfortunately Aussie freedom activists Assange wasn't
lucky enough to have his country help him.
While Maria Zakharova talked about political prisoners in Australia,
Australian foreign minister Penny Wong no where to be seen on Assange.
Assange's Stella & two young children asked Australia for help & nothing happened.
This is a beautiful family that would love to be back home in Australia.
What a shame.

 

 

Posted
12 hours ago, Boges said:

And who spoon feeds you your drivel? Oh right! The Kremlin. 

You totally think Appeasing Putin is a good idea and he'll totally stop at Annexing Ukraine. I hear Moldova has a lot of Russians too. 

Great show. One annoying thing though. Everybody in the West gets this wrong: the Soviet Union wasn't putting missiles in Cuba to threaten the United States. The Soviet Union was putting missiles in Cuba to pressure the United States to remove the US missiles it put in Turkey in range of Moscow. Why does everyone in the West -- even the good guys -- always omit the whole reason the Cuban Missile Crisis happened? It was once again US imperialist aggression that set off the entire confrontation. In the end, the Soviet Union prevailed in that conflict, but everyone in the West portrays the resolution of the conflict as a US win, when the Soviet Union got exactly what it wanted: THE US REMOVED ITS MISSILES FROM TURKEY.    ?

 

Posted (edited)

Poseidon stealth carries with it 800 mega tonne of nuclear energy that is equivalent to 16 Tsar Bomba and explosion of which will result in a Tsunami 3000 feet high radio active wave smashing into coastal cities in the US / Britain.

Konstantin Sivkov: "In the event of a WorldWar3 - Poseidon stealth torpedo will be remotely placed near the The Cascadia Subduction Zone and the San Andreas Fault to blast open the tectonic plates. Russia also plan to nuke and detonate the super volcano Yellowstone Caldera"

 

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Posted (edited)
Happy birthday Mr. President

Congratulations are coming from all over the world.
Russian President Vladimir Putin celebrates his 70th birthday on October 7.
Today Australia's Chinese community also celebrated Putin's birthday in Sydney with a military march.

 

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Posted
8 hours ago, Moonbox said:

You see what you want to see, and literally nothing but.  Putin is the good guy...yup yup.  ?

Nothing hypocritical about it.  The fact that you can't differentiate it is a testament to your poor reasoning skills.  

They were denied entry for a lot of reasons, the most important of which was that NATO figured Ukraine was a likely target for Russia and didn't want to make guarantees to a nation in imminent danger of invasion.  Turns out they were right!

Ukrainians aren't Russians, nor do they want to be.  They have hundreds of years of separate history and if you exerted yourself to reading anything outside of Kremlin telegram feeds, you'd know that.  The fact that you're sitting here all upset and paraphrasing nothing but Kremlin commentary tells us everything we need to know where you're getting your information from.  

Little Vlad can rage and threaten all he wants.  If "LET US DO WHAT WE WANT OR WE NUKE" is his strategy, it's going to fail.  There are enough Russians with families that won't sign on for nuclear apocalypse just to support their delusional dictator.  You can cry and carry on all you like about it, but nobody's fooled by what you're saying.  You're a Putin lickspittle and that's what really matters to you here.  You just can't cope with how horrifically he's faceplanted here.  

Lol...what a dope.

I tell you what matters to me and you ignore it. You are a blatant liar and a complete fool. So you go ahead and follow your addled old twit Biden into a war over a chunk of land nobody in NATO really wants. And when you all finally get what you want, I'll expect you and the other idiots here, to disappear. As you'll all undoubtedly run off to enlist to go fight Russians...in defense of...other Russians.

Because if you don't, all this bloviation of yours will be a testimony to your lies...your hypocrisy...your cowardice...and family shame.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

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