Canadian Government must support the Women of Iran against the repressive Islamic Republic.

[Dougie93]

41 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Disgustingly selfish comments. It is one planet one humanity one body. When one member or organ of a body is in pain, then the rest of body cannot rest.

the Canadian government demanded that women wear a mask on their faces

the Iranian government demands a head scarf

perhaps these Iranian women simply need to follow their Canadian counterparts

in being totally subservient to their government's religious edicts ?

[WestCanMan]

40 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Disgustingly selfish comments. It is one planet one humanity one body. When one member or organ of a body is in pain, then the rest of body cannot rest.

I've known for decades that the hijab is the universal symbol of misogyny and religious bigotry.

I knew how shitty those guys were when they were just whipping women and locking them up for decades for taking off their hijabs. The fact that a single woman died from it didn't change the way I felt about Iran at all. 

The people who pontificate about the awesomeness of islam, and who want to act like wearing a hijab over here in NA is a beautiful sign of religious freedom, can go over there with their beautiful words and talk sense to the wise and noble leaders of the islamic faith. What could go wrong? 

I have a trillion better things to do, including pulling lint from my navel.

[Dougie93]

17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I've known for decades that the hijab is the universal symbol of misogyny and religious bigotry.

I'm not so sure

the Hijab was actually adopted as a symbol of power

women who wear the Hijab are invoking that they have privacy from unrelated males

and that their husbands are rich enough that they don't have to work for a living

it wasn't even religious at first, it was simply adopted by wealthy married women to assert their status

[Dougie93]

10 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Surely by a thousand times more man than you hiding behind computer.

these are not my women

these are your women

you are the one who is hiding

nobody here is stopping you from going back to where you came from, to fight your own wars

[Dougie93]

25 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

And it wasn't one woman killed. hundreds killed 63 of them children and many women so far. Somehow I feel it makes you and your kind happy.

if American, British or Canadian women & children were being mass murdered

I wouldn't be hiding out in Iran to avoid the fight

what are still doing here, trying to get us to fight your war for you ?

[Dougie93]

27 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

 Women of Iran went out armed with courage and determination and faced the most brutal armed to teeth regime mercenaries.

unlike you, hiding out in Canada, when your women are on the front lines

you're not angry with me

you are angry with yourself

because you know that this is your war, and you are the one who is too cowardly to fight it

do you really think a Canadian would break & run like you did ?

to flee to some foreign land, to avoid having to fight ?

no, a Canadian would stay and fight in Canada, die in place as neccesary

a Canadian would not flee like you did

 

 

 

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

I have a trillion better things to do, including pulling lint from my navel.

can you imagine, if the government of Canada was mass murdering Canadian women & children

yourself fleeing to some other country, to try to get them to fight our war for us ?

can you imagine you & I, hiding out in Iran, rather than going to war for our women & children ?

no wonder this foreigner is so upset, having done that to his own kin

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

 I am more Canadian than you.

 

if that were true, you wouldn't feel the need to have to make such a proclamation

 

 

[Dougie93]

19 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

. And whiter than you too which for a racist person like you means a lot.

go back to where you came from and fight your own wars

skin colour has nothing to do with it

I say the same thing to white as the driven snow Ukrainians too

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

I'm not so sure

the Hijab was actually adopted as a symbol of power

women who wear the Hijab are invoking that they have privacy from unrelated males

and that their husbands are rich enough that they don't have to work for a living

it wasn't even religious at first, it was simply adopted by wealthy married women to assert their status

Whatever it used to be, now women have to wear it or they are harassed, spit on, beaten up, raped, and even killed during terrorist attacks or periods of ethnic cleansing, which aren't that uncommon in the ME/Far East. 

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Whatever it used to be, now women have to wear it or they are harassed, spit on, beaten up, raped, and even killed during terrorist attacks or periods of ethnic cleansing, which aren't that uncommon in the ME/Far East. 

well, the Middle East & Far East are no longer part of our Empire

they demanded their independence, and we granted it to them, to include Persia

problem solved

[CITIZEN_2015]

I am deleting all my recent posts, I feel stupid when I debate with the stupid

[Dougie93]

36 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

. And whiter than you too which for a racist person like you means a lot.

oh, okay

then go home whitey

go back to where you came from to fight your own wars

stop hiding out here, trying to get us to fight your wars for you

[WestCanMan]

7 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

I am deleting all my recent posts, I feel stupid when I debate with the stupid

Calm down lol. 

😭

[CITIZEN_2015]

40 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Calm down lol. 

😭

I meant the troll not you. The high school drop out white supremist who does not know Persia was never a colony and if India got its independence, there were not granted it. They fought hard and kick the fu*kers out,

[Dougie93]

10 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

. They fought hard and kick the fu*kers out,

one moment, you are claiming to be "most Canadian" amongst us

the next moment, you are calling us "the fu*ckers"

who was it that installed the Shah ?

oh right, that was us

now you want us to save you from the regime in Tehran that threw us out ?

sorry, Iranian, but you are on your own now, fight your own wars, don't bother us about it

[Dougie93]

10 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

I meant the troll not you. The high school drop out

I only dropped out of high school to serve in the Canadian Army

but after many years of service to Canada as a soldier

I've simply come to the conclusion that fighting in all these foreign wars was a fool's errand

Canada sells weapons to Saudi Arabia

but somehow we are bound to intervene in Iran ?

no, I don't think so

if you are want to go and fight the regime in Tehran, nobody is stopping you

[CITIZEN_2015]

6 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

 

the next moment, you are calling us "the fu*ckers"

 

Go back to high school and learn history that it was the British not Canadians who colonized India.

The problem with this forum or board is that they allow every stupid peanut brain idi*t with access to an under $100 computer can come here and post.

Edited December 9, 2022 by CITIZEN_2015

[Contrarian]

Recent Key Takeaways:

• Mass protester arrests and detentions are likely impacting protest turnout.
• Some social media users voiced skepticism of groups purporting to represent local protest organizations on social media, reflecting the complex information environment in which dissidents are operating.
• The Iranian regime may exploit the death of a Sunni cleric to crack down on acts of dissidence in Sistan and Baluchistan Province.
• At least eight protests took place in seven cities across five provinces on December 9.
• Several senior Iranian officials endorsed death penalties for arrested protesters and described executions as an effective means to discourage protest activity on December 9.
• The Iranian Special Clerical Court sentenced Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei’s niece Farideh Moradkhani to three years in prison on unknown charges.
• Senior US officials stated that Russia is providing an unprecedented level of military and technical support to Iran in exchange for Iranian-made weapons systems.
• Iran is reportedly smuggling weapons to Lebanon through the Beirut International Airport in order to bypass blocked routes through Syria.
  
  https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/iran-crisis-update-december-9

Edited December 10, 2022 by Contrarian

[blackbird]

21 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Go back to high school and learn history that it was the British not Canadians who colonized India.

The problem with this forum or board is that they allow every stupid peanut brain idi*t with access to an under $100 computer can come here and post.

That is true but it is necessary or there would be no forum.  Its the same with voting.  That's why we have Trudeau, Liberals and the NDP in control.  You have to accept everyone's input or accept a dictatorship like in Afghanistan or Iran. That is why I don't have much faith in the system.  I trust in God and his written revelation, the King James Bible.   When you have a government that promotes and supports assisted suicide, killing unborn babies, and same-sex marriage, gender change ideology taught to kids in schools as normal, cozying up with China for decades, you know you have a serious problem.  What we see happening is ample proof the world is a fallen, corrupt place and largely under the control of the Devil.  The lesson is don't put your trust in mankind and his systems.  Trust Jesus Christ and his word, the KJV.

[Contrarian]

17 minutes ago, blackbird said:

What we see happening is ample proof the world is a fallen, corrupt place and largely under the control of the Devil.  The lesson is don't put your trust in mankind and his systems.  Trust Jesus Christ and his word, the KJV.

This is how the mullahs talk in Iran too, they just switch the word Jesus with Mohammed. 

The lesson is whatever you think works for you, don't try to push it on other people or else you will have a reactionary force back at you.

Both so called "men of God" and communists atheists share this trait. The arrogance of knowing what the correct path is for a better world. 

There are maybe millions which travel in journey of life via different channels than Jesus/Abraham doctrine and are better human beings than all the pharisees that roam this forum in my opinion. 

Edited December 10, 2022 by Contrarian

[Dougie93]

10 minutes ago, blackbird said:

That is true

it is not actually true

this foreigner makes a false distinction between "Canada" & "The British"

when in fact, Canada is British

Canada is the Confederation of the British Empire

I was born in the British Empire under the British North America Act

we all ruled over the Raj in India, as we are all the British

even Quebec is British

Canada; founded in the Glorious Revolution of 1688

by William III, Prince of Orange

 the modern liberal British state of the Protestant Reformation & associated Enlightenment

that is where the Westminster Parliament in Ottawa originates

thus it is this Iranian migrant who is ignorant of our history, not I

Ducimus

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, Contrarian said:

This is how the mullahs talk in Iran too, they just switch the word Jesus with Mohammed. 

The lesson is whatever you think works for you, don't try to push it on other people or else you will have a reactionary force back at you.

Both so called "men of God" and communists atheists share this trait. The arrogance of knowing what the correct path is for a better world. 

There are maybe millions which travel in journey of life via different channels than Jesus/Abraham doctrine and are better human beings than all the pharisees that roam this forum in my opinion. 

You obviously have not studied the Bible, particularly the New Testament or you would not talk like that.  There is a world of difference between Islam, the Koran, and biblical Christianity.  Biblical Christianity does not teach that anyone should be beheaded for blasphemy or for being LGBTQ.  Nobody is to be punished or persecuted for their beliefs or behavior.  For you to equate Islam/Mohammed with Jesus is absolutely ridiculous.

The lesson here is you have no idea what biblical Christianity is and need to settle down and do some study.  The King James Bible is the foundation and there are lots of websites that would help understand it.

Atheists have a serious problem in that they are alienated from our Creator.  They are sinners just like everyone else and need to believe the Bible, repent, and ask for forgiveness from God through his Son Jesus Christ and accept him as their personal Lord and Savior.  If one fails to do that, he is not going to punished in this life for his decision although he may suffer terrible consequences for making the wrong decisions in life, but he will be judged by God.  Its a personal decision.

I know there are lots of compassionate people that do plenty of good in the world who are not Christians and may be atheists.   Being compassionate does not give them a free pass because the fact is according to the Bible "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God".    That includes all the compassionate do gooders in the world and those worshiping in false religion.  There is only one God and one Savior Jesus Christ who died for the sins of mankind.  He is the only Savior. 

Sure there are lots of pharisees in the world.  But just because someone professes to believe in Christ and the Bible does not necessarily make him a pharisee.  Since you don't know anything about people on the forum, you are jumping to conclusions and falsely accusing others.  Its quite dumb.  You open yourself up to being accused of throwing around false accusations and there is no defense for you.   Just lumping Christians in with Mohammed and Islam is not very smart.

Edited December 10, 2022 by blackbird

[Contrarian]

16 minutes ago, blackbird said:

You obviously have not studied the Bible, particularly the New Testament or you would not talk like that.  There is a world of difference between Islam, the Koran, and biblical Christianity.  Biblical Christianity does not teach that anyone should be beheaded for blasphemy or for being LGBTQ.  Nobody is to be punished or persecuted for their beliefs or behavior.  For you to equate Islam/Mohammed with Jesus is absolutely ridiculous.

The lesson here is you have no idea what biblical Christianity is and need to settle down and do some study.  The King James Bible is the foundation and there are lots of websites that would help understand it.

Atheists have a serious problem in that they are alienated from our Creator.  They are sinners just like everyone else and need to believe the Bible, repent, and ask for forgiveness from God through his Son Jesus Christ.

I know there are lots of compassionate people that do plenty of good in the world who are not Christians and may be atheists.   Being compassionate does not give them a free pass because the fact is according to the Bible "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God".    That includes all the compassionate do gooders in the world and those worshiping in false religion.  There is only one God and one Savior Jesus Christ who died for the sins of mankind.  He is the only Savior. 

Sure there are lots of pharisees in the world.  But just because someone professes to believe in Christ and the Bible does not necessarily make him a pharisee.  Since you don't know anything about people on the forum, you are jumping to conclusions and falsely accusing others.  Its quite dumb.  You open yourself up to being accused of throwing around false accusations and there is no defense for you.  Just lumping Christians in with Mohammed and Islam is not very smart.

My friend, thank you for your response. I can see you are a believer, consistent, you speak this out of conviction, is a spiritual experience to go to Church, makes you feel great and sometimes lose reason, but that is my sinner's judgement. 

I went too, as a matter of fact I went a few years to a big Cathedral in a major city and I found the experience breathtaking. There was something in that room, you could feel it. Strengths in numbers. 

No point to continue the conversation, as we have different programming, we will learn nothing but I do value messages that come out of conviction. If one could only calibrate that into not giving into preaching -> I personally think more followers can be gained. 

Also, maybe I might be wrong but the Christians that I have met rarely point the finger, you rarely see them and don't yell in your face: "This is the way", .

I read the theory of the New Testament, let me tell you if Jesus ever comes back and sees the amount of money that is being used to build Cathedrals for Eastern European churches while people are struggling with hunger, I don't think he would be impressed. Not to mention former priests that got people imprisoned or murdered due to people's confessions by reporting it to the secret police. 

Also, I never equated the Western Society with the Mullahs, can't believe i am wasting time to write this line, just that particular quote of yours pointing the finger.

Edited December 10, 2022 by Contrarian

[blackbird]

4 hours ago, Contrarian said:

My friend, thank you for your response. I can see you are a believer, consistent, you speak this out of conviction, is a spiritual experience to go to Church, makes you feel great and sometimes lose reason, but that is my perception. 

I go too, as a matter of fact I went a few years to a big Cathedral in a major city and I found the experience breathtaking. There was something in that room, you could feel it. Strengths in numbers. 

No point to continue the conversation, as we have different programming, we will learn nothing but I do value messages that come out of conviction. If you one could calibrate that into not giving into preaching, I personally think more followers can be gained. 

Also, maybe I might be wrong but the Christians that I have met rarely point the finger, you rarely see them and don't yell in your face: "This is the way", I read the theory of the New Testament, let me tell you if Jesus ever comes back and sees the amount of money that is being used to build Cathedrals for Eastern European churches while people are struggling with hunger, I don't think he would be impressed. 

Also, never equated the Western Society with the Mullahs, can't believe i am wasting time to write this line, just that particular quote of you pointing the finger on what a man should do for the better world which is nothing more than: perception. 

All I can say is read the King James Bible and study it, particularly the New Testament.  There is so much in the Bible, one must concentrate on the real core of message which is in the New Testament.

If you went to a big cathedral, I am not sure if you would learn anything about biblical Christianity and the actual gospel. I doubt it is clearly preached in cathedrals.

For one thing Romanism which has been the dominant religion in the west for 1,700 years does not teach or preach the true gospel.  I am not interested in "pointing the finger" but I must defend the truth from false accusations and claims.  The forum is simply a place where one makes a comment and someone else replies.  

I agree the large cathedrals in Europe do not really represent biblical Christianity.  But that has been the way of Romanism for 1,700 years.  We had the Holy Roman Inquisition for 400 years where heretics were burned at the stake.  Anyone who did not tow the line was considered a heretic and at risk of being hauled before the Inquisition tribunals and punished. 

 

Edited December 10, 2022 by blackbird