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We all know the anti-gay passages in the bible used to justify things like opposition to gay marriage.  
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus 20&version=KJV

The most popular being Leviticus 20:13.  
These passages describe male homosexuality.  
 

Where are the passages condemning lesbianism?  
 

From a biblical perspective, it seems lesbians are alright, but not gay men.  Why do you think that is?  

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12 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

We all know the anti-gay passages in the bible used to justify things like opposition to gay marriage.  
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus 20&version=KJV

The most popular being Leviticus 20:13.  
These passages describe male homosexuality.  
 

Where are the passages condemning lesbianism?  
 

From a biblical perspective, it seems lesbians are alright, but not gay men.  Why do you think that is?  

 

Genesis (1 and 2, and 5 ),  are at the root of opposition to gay and lesbian marriage.  God made the GENDERS male and female, specifically for mankind.  Other creations were not given genders.  He made them male and female - man and woman -  for marriage and procreation.

 

Genesis is quoted by Jesus Christ in the New Testament.

Matthew 19

And He answered and said, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?

 

That's the reason why they were created male and female:  marriage.  union.

 

Lesbianism is explicitly described in the New Testament.

 

Romans 1

26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged natural relations for that which is contrary to nature, 27 and likewise the men, too, abandoned natural relations [s]with women and burned in their desire toward one another, males with males committing [t]shameful acts and receiving in [u]their own persons the due penalty of their error.

 

 

 

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17 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

But there was nothing about punishments.  And this is the only time it’s mentioned.  Seems to me God thought it was kind of ok.  

 

Even if something is only mentioned one time, it doesn't make it any less. It is written.

Anyway, gay sex isn't written only once.  Lesbianism falls under homosexuality (in the Bible - as shown).....much the same way that lesbian marriage also falls under GAY MARRIAGE in our vocabulary today, doesn't it?

When you speak of gay marriage - that doesn't include marriage between lesbians?  Yes or no.

 

 

There are many verses about punishments (various books throughout the Bible).  Here are examples:

 

Rev 21:8

But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

 

Hebrews 13:4

Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.

 

Jude 1:7

Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.

 

 

They all fall under "fornicators,"  or "sexually immoral." Which include those who have sex outside of marriage, and promiscuity. 

 

The only sexual acts acceptable to God are those between a husband and his wife (marital union between a male and female).

 

1 Cor 7:2

But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.

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12 hours ago, Aristides said:

Probably because it was written by men.

"Written by men" but men who were inspired by God.

"16  All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17  That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."   2 Timothy 3:16 KJV

3  Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,"   KJV

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48 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Do you keep the Sabbath (Saturday) holy?

 

Christians are not required to strictly observe Sabbath day on Saturdays.....or even Sundays.

Any day can be a Holy day to a Christian. 

 

The Word of God makes it quite clear that Sabbath observance was a special sign between God and Israel: “The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant. It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he abstained from work and rested” (Exodus 31:16–17).

 

Looking more closely at point 4 above will reveal that there is no obligation for the New Testament believer to keep the Sabbath, and will also show that the idea of a Sunday “Christian Sabbath” is also unscriptural.

As discussed above, there is one time the Sabbath is mentioned after Paul began to focus on the Gentiles, “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ” (Colossians 2:16–17). The Jewish Sabbath was abolished at the cross where Christ “canceled the written code, with its regulations” (Colossians 2:14).

https://www.gotquestions.org/Saturday-Sunday.html

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6 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Tell me more about how the 10 Commandments don’t matter.  Is that the only one Christians can ignore?

I'm not saying the 10 Commandments doesn't matter.   I gave you the explanation.  There are some rules that strictly apply only to Jews - like, circumcision as an example.....because Israel was supposed to be a nation of priests.

Why do you say that?

 

As a matter of fact - we don't even have to go to a church or a temple to worship!

 

 

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1 minute ago, TreeBeard said:

It’s the 4th Commandment, yet you don’t follow it.  Hence, it is ignored.  What other Commandments can you ignore?

I just explained to you why!  Do we sacrifice animals?

 

Here is another explanation:

 

 

In His conversation with the woman (John 4:20-26), Jesus clearly signals that some activities involved in the worship of God would change despite having been required practice since at least the time of the building of the Temple by Solomon, a period of about a thousand years. Also within the context is Jesus' hint that the nature of worship would be changing from rote public ceremonies to more heartfelt devotion and personal interaction with God.

https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/CGG/ID/15183/Worshiping-God-Anywhere.htm

 

 

John 4

21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father.

22 You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews.

23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.

24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

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6 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Do you keep the Sabbath (Saturday) holy?

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The fact that the law of Moses, including the Ten Commandments, has ended does not mean that one can worship idols, take God's name in vain, disobey parents, steal, kill, commit adultery, or do other sinful things condemned in the Ten Commandments. Nine of the laws found in the Ten Commandments are repeated as a part of the New Covenant and must be obeyed today. These laws are binding today, not because they were a part of the Old Covenant, but because they are a part of the New Testament.

The one commandment found in the Ten Commandments that has not been made a part of the New Testament is the commandment to "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy"(Exodus 20:8). There is a good reason for not repeating this commandment in the New Testament. The Sabbath was given to the Jews to remind them that God brought them out of the land of Egypt "through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm" (Deuteronomy 5:15). It is not the Sabbath day but the first day of the week, the day Christ arose from the dead (Mark 16:9), that has significance for followers of Christ under the New Testament. Therefore, Christians are not commanded to keep the Sabbath (Colossians 2:16), but are expected to assemble on the first day of the week and take the Lord's Supper (Acts 20:7).

The 10 Commandments From Exodus 20Commandents Repeated The New Testament

Have no gods before me v.31 Cor. 4:8; Acts 14:15

Make no graven images v.4Acts 17:29

Do not take the name of God in vain v.7Mat. 6:9

Keep the Sabath Day holy v.8??????

Honor they father and mother v.12Eph 6:2

Do not kill v.13Rom. 13:9, Rev. 21:8

Do not commit adultery v.14Rom 13:9, Heb. 13:4

Do not steal v.15Rom. 13:9, Eph. 4:28

Do not bear false witness v.16Rom. 13:9, Eph. 4:25

Do not covet v.17Rom. 13:9, Col. 3:5

One cannot be saved by "keeping the Ten Commandments." We are no longer under the covenant that contains the Ten Commandments. The Ten Commandments were a part of the law of Moses that was given to bring the Jews to Christ (Galatians 3:24) and that ended at the cross. That law, or covenant, condemned those who "continued not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them" (Galatians 3:10). In the New Testament there are still commands to be obeyed- even nine of those found in the ten commandments. But under the New Testament there is forgiveness of sins through Christ for the one who repents and is baptized (Acts 2:38), thus becoming a Christian, and for the Christian who tries to live right and confesses his sins (1 John 1:7-9).   unquote

Are We Under The Ten Commandments, Today? | Timberland Drive (timberlandchurch.org)

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