'Merica officially becomes Venezuela: Maralogo raided by Biden's goon squad

[Rebound]

15 hours ago, Nationalist said:

IF he's indicted...then a lot of Presidents and former Presidents can be too.

Careful how you warp the law little guy...

Sure. Anyone who breaks the law should be prosecuted. Clinton got prosecuted for perjury, while he was in office. Then Trump’s AG said a President can’t be prosecuted of a crime while in office… uh???

[robosmith]

15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Really?

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/09/the-fbi-files-on-clintons-emails/

Are you ignorant or lying?

Don't worry, we know.

You "know" crap. I said "ordered deleted" NOT when it actually happened.

The guy who was supposed to do it when ordered, f'ed up and covered his tracks later. Duh.

[robosmith]

15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

He's not. But he's a guy who actually served the US. Hunter did sweet FA aside from sell access to his father. 

Too bad you have NO EVIDENCE that Hunter actually influenced his father to do ANYTHING unethical.

MAYBE he was paid to influence, but that does NOT MEAN he actually did. ?

[WestCanMan]

6 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You "know" crap. I said "ordered deleted" NOT when it actually happened.

The guy who was supposed to do it when ordered, f'ed up and covered his tracks later. Duh.

Yeah, for sure she like, totally ordered them to do it before and they didn't get around to until 3 weeks after the subpoena.

FYI the saying "Better late than never" doesn't apply to the destruction of evidence. At least not from the FBIs POV. They usually take it pretty seriously.

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Yeah, for sure she like, totally ordered them to do it before and they didn't get around to until 3 weeks after the subpoena.

Your cynicism DOES NOT CHANGE what happened.

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

FYI the saying "Better late than never" doesn't apply to the destruction of evidence. At least not from the FBIs POV. They usually take it pretty seriously.

So sue the guy who covered his tracks for his mistake.

[WestCanMan]

10 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Too bad you have NO EVIDENCE that Hunter actually influenced his father to do ANYTHING unethical.?

Just his own emails.

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MAYBE he was paid to influence, but that does NOT MEAN he actually did.

^ wow.

You might have a point, because Joe and Hunter both stated emphatically, while lying, that Joe had no knowledge of Hunter's overseas business arrangements. 

Just kidding. You don't have a point, as always. Everything that you say is ridiculous. I'd be laughing my ass off if I wasn't in shock.

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Just his own emails.

Illegally acquired emails with shit chain of custody prove nothing.

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10.3. Electronic communications

Under Delaware law, a person or entity providing an electronic communications service or a remote computing service may not knowingly divulge to any other person or entity the contents of an electronic communication while it is in the service's electronic storage (§2422 of Subchapter II of Chapter 24 of Title 11 of the Del. C.). Exceptions to this law apply for disclosure to addressees or intended recipients of the communication, disclosure with the consent of the originator or an addressee or intended recipient, or other specified circumstances. Law enforcement officials may also require disclosure under specified circumstances (11 Del. C. §2423).

 

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

^ wow.

You might have a point, because Joe and Hunter both stated emphatically, while lying, that Joe had no knowledge of Hunter's overseas business arrangements. 

Just kidding. You don't have a point, as always. Everything that you say is ridiculous. I'd be laughing my ass off if I wasn't in shock.

Of course you have NO EVIDENCE of ^this. Esp the "while lying" allegation.

[WestCanMan]

22 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Illegally acquired emails with shit chain of custody prove nothing.

 

Of course you have NO EVIDENCE of ^this. Esp the "while lying" allegation.

Joe and Hunter both stated emphatically on video to members of the media that Joe had no knowledge whatsoever of Hunter's overseas dealings. 

That's why it was such a big deal when the photo of Joe golfing with Hunter and Devon Archer emerged. It was 100% proof that Joe actually did meet with one of Hunter's main overseas business partners, and joe had to admit that he actually did know at least something about Hunter's business. IE, we all found out for absolute certain that Joe lied about his knowledge of Hunter's shady dealings.

Now you tell me what would motivate Joe to lie so vehemently about something so "unimportant"? 

[WestCanMan]

28 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Illegally acquired emails with shit chain of custody prove nothing.

 

Of course you have NO EVIDENCE of ^this. Esp the "while lying" allegation.

Bobulinski's testimony wasn't illegally obtained. 

[ironstone]

On 9/28/2022 at 7:45 PM, robosmith said:

Kushner is NOT ALLOWED to be paid by a foreign government for his US government employee services.

You should KNOW THAT.

If you are making a comparison between Kushner and Hunter while Trump was president and while Joe was president, how do their respective accomplishments stack up?

What do you think of the personal behavior of those two during that time?

Yes, Hunter is making tons of money and he apparently has no expertise in anything beyond heavy drug use and partying. Can you name Hunter's biggest accomplishment as the president's son?

Hunter Biden's close relationship with Chinese-American secretary revealed | Daily Mail Online

You think Hunter and daddy are not compromised?

[Rebound]

On 9/28/2022 at 7:45 PM, robosmith said:

Kushner is NOT ALLOWED to be paid by a foreign government for his US government employee services.

You should KNOW THAT.

The only honest truth is this: Both Jared Kushner and Hunter Biden took advantage of their political connections to secure massive overseas business deals. Whether legal, I cannot say, but they are clearly unethical, and condemning one while excusing the other is partisan blindness, no matter which you excuse. 

[Infidel Dog]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

The only honest truth is this: Both Jared Kushner and Hunter Biden took advantage of their political connections to secure massive overseas business deals. 

Sorry Bud. Not a Prog. Not trained to ignore the obvious.

First immediate clue of a false equivalency there is in the names. 

So now if you want to convince me the 2 things are equal, I'll need a list. The son of the Vice President was given a big fat paycheck by a Ukrainian energy company for a job he had no qualifications for. Next he was taking checks from the Chinese for "the Big Guy." Show me how the circumstances were the same for the In-law, Kushner.

In fact show me how Kushner is just a cracked up whore monger with no real qualifications for anything.

Don't just dangle a doubtful insinuation like it means something.

Edited October 3, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[BeaverFever]

41 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Sorry Bud. Not a Prog. Not trained to ignore the obvious.

First immediate clue of a false equivalency there is in the names. 

So now if you want to convince me the 2 things are equal, I'll need a list. The son of the Vice President was given a big fat paycheck by a Ukrainian energy company for a job he had no qualifications for. Next he was taking checks from the Chinese for "the Big Guy." Show me how the circumstances were the same for the In-law, Kushner.

In fact show me how Kushner is just a cracked up whore monger with no real qualifications for anything.

Don't just dangle a doubtful insinuation like it means something.

Being a board member doesn’t require subject matter expertise.  How many people on the board of General Motors do you think are licensed mechanics?  
 

Many people are on corporate boards for no other reason than they have important personal/business connections that the other board members value. In the case of any company, connections to the White House would be extremely valuable, especially  Burisma which like the Ukraine government itself is always fighting off Russian attempts to seize control. Of note, Hunter had past experience as a member of US corporate boards and is a lawyer and graduate of Yale University.   

In 2014, Burisma appointed Hunter and former Polish president, Aleksander Kwasniewski, to its board.  In 2017 it appoint Cofer Black, a former CIA official and foreign policy adviser to Mitt Romney's presidential campaign  

 

Let’s go back in time to 2014 when Hunter was appointed, it was not the secret deal Republicans today pretend it to be:

 

 

Ukraine gas producer appoints Biden's son to board

PUBLISHED TUE, MAY 13 2014 2:49 PM EDTUPDATED TUE, MAY 13 2014 5:28 PM EDT

 

 

The release quoted Hunter Biden as saying that "my assistance in consulting the Company on matters of transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion and other priorities will contribute to the economy and benefit the people of Ukraine."

Large corporations frequently appoint well-connected marquee names of both major U.S. political parties as directors. Yet corporate governance experts are critical of the process, which can be fraught with conflicts of interests and the appearance of favoritism. 

The arrangement raised questions about the propriety of his appointment, given the tense political standoff between Russia and the West over the future status of Ukraine, where fighting has resulted in the deaths of dozens of soldiers and civilians. Natural gas has factored heavily in tensions between Russia and Ukraine, both of which have political leadership that's intertwined with their respective energy industries.

Read MoreRussian energy a threat to Europe, but not the US

 

 

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2014/05/13/bidens-son-joins-ukraine-gas-companys-board-of-directors.html

[WestCanMan]

38 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Being a board member doesn’t require subject matter expertise.  How many people on the board of General Motors do you think are licensed mechanics?  
 

Many people are on corporate boards for no other reason than they have important personal/business connections that the other board members value. In the case of any company, connections to the White House would be extremely valuable, especially  Burisma which like the Ukraine government itself is always fighting off Russian attempts to seize control. Of note, Hunter had past experience as a member of US corporate boards and is a lawyer and graduate of Yale University.   

In 2014, Burisma appointed Hunter and former Polish president, Aleksander Kwasniewski, to its board.  In 2017 it appoint Cofer Black, a former CIA official and foreign policy adviser to Mitt Romney's presidential campaign  

 

Let’s go back in time to 2014 when Hunter was appointed, it was not the secret deal Republicans today pretend it to be:

 

 

Ukraine gas producer appoints Biden's son to board

PUBLISHED TUE, MAY 13 2014 2:49 PM EDTUPDATED TUE, MAY 13 2014 5:28 PM EDT

 

 

The release quoted Hunter Biden as saying that "my assistance in consulting the Company on matters of transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion and other priorities will contribute to the economy and benefit the people of Ukraine."

Large corporations frequently appoint well-connected marquee names of both major U.S. political parties as directors. Yet corporate governance experts are critical of the process, which can be fraught with conflicts of interests and the appearance of favoritism. 

The arrangement raised questions about the propriety of his appointment, given the tense political standoff between Russia and the West over the future status of Ukraine, where fighting has resulted in the deaths of dozens of soldiers and civilians. Natural gas has factored heavily in tensions between Russia and Ukraine, both of which have political leadership that's intertwined with their respective energy industries.

Read MoreRussian energy a threat to Europe, but not the US

 

 

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2014/05/13/bidens-son-joins-ukraine-gas-companys-board-of-directors.html

Basically everything you wrote there just equates to "Let's give the VPOTUS's son oodles of cash and then maybe his dad will pull our fat outta the fire." 

Then Joe fulfilled his end of the quid pro quo by taking the heat off of Burisma. 

[DONKIROCK]

We all know America's stalwart allies.

One gets the impression  that Biden is creating an opposite corresponding Axis force to battle our allies someday.

[DONKIROCK]

57 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Being a board member doesn’t require subject matter expertise.  How many people on the board of General Motors do you think are licensed mechanics?  
 

Many people are on corporate boards for no other reason than they have important personal/business connections that the other board members value. In the case of any company, connections to the White House would be extremely valuable, especially  Burisma which like the Ukraine government itself is always fighting off Russian attempts to seize control. Of note, Hunter had past experience as a member of US corporate boards and is a lawyer and graduate of Yale University.   

In 2014, Burisma appointed Hunter and former Polish president, Aleksander Kwasniewski, to its board.  In 2017 it appoint Cofer Black, a former CIA official and foreign policy adviser to Mitt Romney's presidential campaign  

 

Let’s go back in time to 2014 when Hunter was appointed, it was not the secret deal Republicans today pretend it to be:

 

 

Ukraine gas producer appoints Biden's son to board

PUBLISHED TUE, MAY 13 2014 2:49 PM EDTUPDATED TUE, MAY 13 2014 5:28 PM EDT

 

 

The release quoted Hunter Biden as saying that "my assistance in consulting the Company on matters of transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion and other priorities will contribute to the economy and benefit the people of Ukraine."

Large corporations frequently appoint well-connected marquee names of both major U.S. political parties as directors. Yet corporate governance experts are critical of the process, which can be fraught with conflicts of interests and the appearance of favoritism. 

The arrangement raised questions about the propriety of his appointment, given the tense political standoff between Russia and the West over the future status of Ukraine, where fighting has resulted in the deaths of dozens of soldiers and civilians. Natural gas has factored heavily in tensions between Russia and Ukraine, both of which have political leadership that's intertwined with their respective energy industries.

Read MoreRussian energy a threat to Europe, but not the US

 

 

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2014/05/13/bidens-son-joins-ukraine-gas-companys-board-of-directors.html

So, are you proPutin AND proBiden?

[DONKIROCK]

3 hours ago, Rebound said:

The only honest truth is this: Both Jared Kushner and Hunter Biden took advantage of their political connections to secure massive overseas business deals. Whether legal, I cannot say, but they are clearly unethical, and condemning one while excusing the other is partisan blindness, no matter which you excuse. 

When you see the Dems cheating and taking advantage of the system, what good has it done US to expose them when they just laugh at us and keep on cheating?

[Infidel Dog]

Yeah, has nothing to do with the false equivalency to Kushner, in any case.

Just another pathetic attempt at diversion from the progressive peanut gallery.

[Legato]

21 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Yeah, has nothing to do with the false equivalency to Kushner, in any case.

Just another pathetic attempt at diversion from the progressive peanut gallery.

I'd like to know what's in those peanuts, could be a by product of lysergic acid diethylamide. Whatever it is, critical thinking is certainly compromised,

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, DONKIROCK said:

So, are you proPutin AND proBiden?

?

Uh no

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, DONKIROCK said:

So, are you proPutin AND proBiden?

Beave is as far left as they come. CNN is his bible and his constitution all in one. 

[Rebound]

GSA released photo of the pallets of documents Donald Trump stole. Is this how you store ultra-secret documents???

[Nationalist]

23 minutes ago, Rebound said:

GSA released photo of the pallets of documents Donald Trump stole. Is this how you store ultra-secret documents???

It's one way...yes. in fact, I'd be curious to see what Obama's wear house of documents looks like. Similar I'd bet.

[Rebound]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

It's one way...yes. in fact, I'd be curious to see what Obama's wear house of documents looks like. Similar I'd bet.

Ahh, yes… deflection via false accusation.  Barack Obama fully complied with the law. The National Archives said so.   
 

“The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), in accordance with the Presidential Records Act, assumed physical and legal custody of the Presidential records from the administrations of Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush, and Ronald Reagan, when those Presidents left office. NARA securely moved these records to temporary facilities that NARA leased from the General Services Administration (GSA), near the locations of the future Presidential Libraries that former Presidents built for NARA. All such temporary facilities met strict archival and security standards, and have been managed and staffed exclusively by NARA employees. Reports that indicate or imply that those Presidential records were in the possession of the former Presidents or their representatives, after they left office, or that the records were housed in substandard conditions, are false and misleading.”

 

https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2022/nr22-001

[BeaverFever]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

It's one way...yes. in fact, I'd be curious to see what Obama's wear house of documents looks like. Similar I'd bet.

What warehouse of documents ?  The one in your made up fantasy land?