robosmith Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 6 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: endless projection that is the only tool you're armed with accusing others of your own faults You seem to believe you have a LOT of experience with ^this BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: A. https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/government-verify/how-us-presidents-can-declassify-documents-trump-mar-a-lago-search-fact-check/536-e1961390-e7c6-438a-b9b5-671dc9c6f7ec B. Nonsense. Did you cream your jeans at the thought of Bannon possibly going to prison? Will you cream them when the Republicans begin jailing Democrats? Thanks for FINALLY POSTING SOMETHING. Too bad you didn't read it. Quote The U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals wrote in a 2020 decision about whether statements made by then-President Trump declassified the existence of a CIA program that “declassification, even by the president, must follow established procedures.” If a document is declassified, that doesn’t automatically mean it can be shared widely, either. For example, nuclear information – which is generally classified – is also protected by the federal Atomic Energy Act of 1954, McClanahan explained. The Washington Post reported the FBI searched Mar-a-Lago for “nuclear documents,” among other classified information. “Because [nuclear information] has this dual protection, even if you declassify a nuclear document, you cannot disseminate it because it’s still what’s called Restricted Data,” McClanahan said. “So to the extent that he [Trump] had any nuclear information in there, declassification would not help him in the slightest, because he would still be disseminating restricted data or moving Restricted Data,” he added. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 Meanwhile back in the REAL world, ONCE AGAIN the people ACTUALLY conspiring to commit election fraud are Republicans GOP Officials Caught Instructing Poll Workers To ‘Secretly’ Break Rules: Leaked Audio Republicans in Michigan are working to take control of election proceedings by stocking polling places with “undercover agents” …On the leaked call, EIF founder and former state Sen. Patrick Colbeck claims that “none of the constraints that they’re putting on this are legal.” His co-host, GOP county chairwoman Cheryl Costantino, advises the workers to “just hide” their cell phones, and to “hide a small pad and a small pen or something like that because you need to take accurate notes.” Costantino dismissed concerns from attendees that they’d be thrown out or removed from their posts for breaking the rules. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/michigan-gop-encourages-poll-workers-break-rules-leaked-video-1234588705/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) On 9/7/2022 at 3:46 PM, DogOnPorch said: As a few folks pointed-out, Obama did the very same thing only to the tune of millions of documents without any FBI raids into a 16 year olds' bedroom. Or the First Lady's underwear...which apparently happened. False, here are the official statements of the National Archives: August 12, 2022, statement The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) assumed exclusive legal and physical custody of Obama Presidential records when President Barack Obama left office in 2017, in accordance with the Presidential Records Act (PRA). NARA moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to a NARA facility in the Chicago area where they are maintained exclusively by NARA. Additionally, NARA maintains the classified Obama Presidential records in a NARA facility in the Washington, DC, area. As required by the PRA, former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his Administration. September 8, 2022, statement Some news outlets and individuals on social media are mistakenly reporting that the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) confirmed that a large number of boxes of Presidential records are missing from the Barack Obama administration. This is false. NARA has never issued any such statement and is not aware of any missing boxes of Presidential records from the Obama administration. https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2022/nr22-001 Edited September 9, 2022 by Rebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Rebound said: WRONG, according a Federal appeals court. Whaaaaa! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Even if you're a Canadian lawyer, you're not an expert on US law; unlike the JUDGE who authorized the warrant. ? Your arrogance knows no bounds. Your willingness to support law breaking knows no bounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Thanks for FINALLY POSTING SOMETHING. Too bad you didn't read it. Lol...except the POTUS has the power to declassified things at will. Good luck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 Trump once said he could shoot someone in front of the cameras and get away with it. Guess what? 44 pages of arguing with his hand picked jury.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 25 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Your willingness to support law breaking knows no bounds. Your legal reasoning is vapid and devoid of fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, Rebound said: Your legal reasoning is vapid and devoid of fact. Really? I guess we will see...won't we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Really? I guess we will see...won't we. Mr. Bannon was in court today, sporting a sparkly new set of handcuffs. His ass is going to jail. Edited September 9, 2022 by Rebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 4 hours ago, robosmith said: Wanna bet he won't be? wanna bet he won't be convicted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Your willingness to support law breaking knows no bounds. Prove that the warrant authorized by the judge was illegal, IF you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Lol...except the POTUS has the power to declassified things at will. Good luck with that. Too bad you have NO authority nor expertise to render ^this judgement. Maybe you can FIND that in this paper by an EXPERT in US classification and laws. https://www.lawfareblog.com/classification-status-trumps-mar-lago-documents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 37 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: wanna bet he won't be convicted? On any count? I'll take that bet. Not sure why YOU'RE defending a con man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, robosmith said: On any count? I'll take that bet. Not sure why YOU'RE defending a con man. why wouldn't I defend someone who did nothing wrong against a politicized FBI and DOJ on a witch hunt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: why wouldn't I defend someone who did nothing wrong against a politicized FBI and DOJ on a witch hunt? The ONLY one saying it's a witch hunt is Trump, which is exactly what all criminals say. The question is why you would believe a con man like Trump. Probably cause, you're unfamiliar with his long history of conning people. Do you even know about any of it? Early on, he used to call reporters masquerading as his own publicist named John Barron or John Miller. Those were some of his EARLIEST LIES. You've been CONNED. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: why wouldn't I defend someone who did nothing wrong against a politicized FBI and DOJ on a witch hunt? The Director of the “politicized” FBI was appointed by Trump and signed off on the warrant. Hmmm… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Nationalist said: Lol...except the POTUS has the power to declassified things at will. Good luck with that. So he stood over dozens of boxes containing thousands of classified documents he hadn’t yet read and said “whatever’s in here I hereby declassify it”? And conveniently there’s no record of it so once again we’ll just have to take his word that happened? As Bill Barr said that’s extremely unlikely to be true and even if it were true that would much worse. William Barr, on Fox, says there's no legitimate reason for classified docs to be at Mar-a-Lago Former Attorney General William Barr appeared on Fox News on Friday to say there is no "legitimate reason" for classified documents to have been at Mar-a-Lago and cast doubt in the idea that they had somehow been declassified. …No. I can't think of a legitimate reason why they should have been -- could be taken out of government, away from the government if they are classified," Barr said of the documents found at former President Donald Trump's Florida resort. "I, frankly, am skeptical of the claim that [Trump] declassified everything," Barr added. "Because frankly, I think it's highly improbable, and second, if in fact he sort of stood over scores of boxes, not really knowing what was in them and said 'I hereby declassify everything in here,' that would be such an abuse and that shows such recklessness, it's almost worse than taking the documents," he said….. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/09/02/politics/barr-trump-documents-fox/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 59 minutes ago, robosmith said: The ONLY one saying it's a witch hunt is Trump false everyone who isn't a Democrat shill is saying it only Democrat shills think it's not a witch hunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) Quite a funny yet accurate description of Trump’s true motive If he had no intentions with these documents, why did he abscond with them and why was he fighting so hard to not return them? Edited September 9, 2022 by BeaverFever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said: false everyone who isn't a Democrat shill is saying it only Democrat shills think it's not a witch hunt But as usual your definition of “Democrat shill” is anyone who isn’t a Republican shill ….so your comment is worthless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: But as usual your definition of “Democrat shill” is anyone who isn’t a Republican shill ….so your comment is worthless. no it isn't independents are very much against this raid on Mar-a-Lago non-shills oppose this only those suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome support it Edited September 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 7 hours ago, robosmith said: Too bad you have NO authority nor expertise to render ^this judgement. Maybe you can FIND that in this paper by an EXPERT in US classification and laws. https://www.lawfareblog.com/classification-status-trumps-mar-lago-documents A general warrant is illegal. Look that up. Have a warm and fuzzy day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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