'Merica officially becomes Venezuela: Maralogo raided by Biden's goon squad

[Rebound]

4 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

and I quote...

Now go throw your soiled jeans in the wash and stop this masterbationary horse crap.

Did you read the entirety of what you quoted? A Federal Appeals Court already ruled in 2020 that the President cannot declassify information without any process at all.  IOW, Trump already lost a court case over this notion that he has “wave a magic wand” declassification authority.  AND, the President cannot declassify nuclear-related information, per Federal Law.  

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, Rebound said:

Did you read the entirety of what you quoted? A Federal Appeals Court already ruled in 2020 that the President cannot declassify information without any process at all.  IOW, Trump already lost a court case over this notion that he has “wave a magic wand” declassification authority.  AND, the President cannot declassify nuclear-related information, per Federal Law.  

Of course I read it. Evidently you either did not, or have terrible reading comprehension.

The President of the United States can classify and declassify at will. There are "procedures" and "protocols" in place but they do NOT supersede the power of the Commander in Chief. If this has to go to the SCOTUS...it will. And guess how they'd rule.

 

[Rebound]

Just now, Nationalist said:

Of course I read it. Evidently you either did not, or have terrible reading comprehension.

The President of the United States can classify and declassify at will. There are "procedures" and "protocols" in place but they do NOT supersede the power of the Commander in Chief. If this has to go to the SCOTUS...it will. And guess how they'd rule.

 

What are you talking about?

YOU QUOTED A FEDERAL COURT RULING WHICH DONALD TRUMP LOST. The Court ruled that, Yes, the President can declassify information BUT he or she must follow some protocol. Trump did not follow any declassification protocol.  There is ZERO written record of these documents having been declassified.  So the rest of the DoD assumes they are still classified, and assumes the secret agents, etc, have not been compromised. 

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Of course I read it. Evidently you either did not, or have terrible reading comprehension.

The President of the United States can classify and declassify at will. There are "procedures" and "protocols" in place but they do NOT supersede the power of the Commander in Chief. If this has to go to the SCOTUS...it will. And guess how they'd rule.

 

WRONG, according a Federal appeals court. 

[robosmith]

On 9/7/2022 at 12:37 PM, DogOnPorch said:

 

They're literally inventing stuff as they go along. The President is Commander in Chief and privy to all so-called secrets. It isn't some deep state bureaucrat as they're trying to now imply. The President decides...that's what they do. They don't need some CIA or FBI agent's permission.

Once out of office, ALL those privileges VANISHED. At that point ANY retained government property was STOLEN.

The DoJ showed great patience in trying to get them returned, but private citizen Trump having his lawyer LIE about the remaining documents in his possession JUSTIFIED the warrant.

[robosmith]

On 9/7/2022 at 12:32 PM, Nationalist said:

General search warrants happen to be illegal.

Even if you're a Canadian lawyer, you're not an expert on US law; unlike the JUDGE who authorized the warrant. ? 

Your arrogance knows no bounds.

[robosmith]

On 9/7/2022 at 12:46 PM, DogOnPorch said:

 

As a few folks pointed-out, Obama did the very same thing only to the tune of millions of documents without any FBI raids into a 16 year olds' bedroom. Or the First Lady's underwear...which apparently happened.

Prove it. Obama turned his documents over the NARA which was holding them in a Chicago facility for HIS LIBRARY.

It is pathetic when you guys just repeat BS heard on FOX without so much as a small bit of research.

[robosmith]

22 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

What's more dangerous: classified info on an unsecured server in Hillary Clinton's basement [which is known to have been hacked several times], or in boxes at Mar-a-Lago, which is protected by the Secret Service? 

Thanks for comin' out, buddy.

Those boxes didn't even have a pad lock until NARA demanded one.

[robosmith]

22 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

This reminds me a lot of when Trump was saying "I didn't collude with Russia", because he knew all along that he didn't collude with Russia, but Dems and their MSM were all saying: "TRUMP IS A LIAR! WE KNOW THAT HE COLLUDED WITH RUSSIA!". Now everyone on earth knows that Trump was telling the truth and the MSM and Dems were lying, and the FBI was committing crimes and abusing their power.

This is another scenario where Trump knows what's going on and the MSM is pretending that they know best and Trump is a liar. 

This is supposed to drag on until after the mid-terms, and the damage is done, then it will fold like a cheap tent.

I don't think that it will be so easy to prove FBI malfeasance this time, all they really need is 1 page from 1 doc to make the claim that they had a right to be there. 

You still haven't read the Republican led Senate Intel Committee report have ya?

Can't get that in CANADA?

[robosmith]

20 hours ago, sharkman said:

Except that this one nuclear document is a poison pill.  Isn’t it interesting that they don’t name the nation whose nuclear abilities, etc., are contained therein?   Such a huge deal, and yet let’s not name the nation involved.

Because, 1) the nation involved is Iran.  2) it’s nuclear abilities are directly tied to a treaty a former president gave them.  Without so much as a signature from Iran.  
 

This document was put there for the FBI to find, and they took the bait.

When did you get your TS/SAP clearance and permission from Biden to read that?

Of course you would NEED those to have any credibility on the CONTENTS of that document.

[robosmith]

19 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

and yet they grabbed a bunch of stuff that wasn't in the warrant

including Trump's medical records and Melania's clothes

Actual lawyers have said ANYTHING in sight that is relevant is fair game.

[robosmith]

19 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

hell even the media isn't running with nuclear secrets bullshit anymore

but the clowns on this forum are

^Premature especulation. Breaking news yesterday about the nuclear docs. 

[robosmith]

18 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

he did comply

and was continuing to comply

they raided anyway

And he LIED under oath about not having more docs. AKA, obstruction.

[robosmith]

9 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

WaPo is still running with it

the rest of the media not so much

obvious bullshit is obvious

even to the fake news media

You're lucky someone was brave enough to leak what was leaked. DoJ will NEVER confirm the contents of a TS/SAP document.

[robosmith]

9 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Trump did not sign anything saying he'd give back all the documents

he said he'd give back some of them

then they wanted other ones and he was talking to them about giving them back too

they said he could keep some documents as long as he put another lock on them

they raided him for political reasons only

anyone who thinks otherwise is too blinded by TDS to see straight

Plenty of evidence says you're WRONG. No TDS needed to see all you got is BS.

[robosmith]

8 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

bad lawyers don't mean Trump committed perjury

he gave back the classified material

there is no crime that Trump committed

your beef is with Bobb, not Trump

IF the lawyer relied on Trump assurances, it certainly does mean perjury by Trump.

Bobb has two choices: take the heat of claiming she personally confirmed the statement, or testify against Trump.

[robosmith]

8 hours ago, sharkman said:

Yeah?  Which nation’s nuclear secrets were in Trump’s possession, smart guy?

The leakers are not confirming that yet. But it doesn't really matter AT ALL.

Just more deflection on your part.

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

apples and oranges

Trump is not in court

Wanna bet he won't be?

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

not relevant as to whether or not he declassified it

You STILL have not posted anything more that YOUR claims about the complex nuance of POTUS classification authorities.

Do I need to refresh your memory with the analysis I posted from an ACTUAL EXPERT?

Of course you NEVER answer inconvenient questions like ^this because you're all hat and no cattle. ?

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

...and Brave Sir Robin ran away.

Keep running.

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

I don’t know the names and titles of American governmental authorities who can allow ex-presidents to store government documents in their homes.  

If that’s your “gotcha moment”, bask in the glory   

You are a real details-guy…. 

If they're nuclear SAP secrets, only the POTUS, cabinet officials, or direct reports can give permission for access.

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

no it's not

Trump can say he told her he had no classified documents

and she mistook that to mean he had no documents that were marked classified

and he gets off the hook

her crimes are her crimes

and Trump can easily throw her under the bus to save himself

There is NO EVIDENCE that Trump declassified ANY of the documents he STOLE.

Even if he did, he had NO RIGHT to possess or mis-store them.

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

he was the POTUS

of course he's authorized to have those secrets through executive privilege

 

^More hat and STILL no cattle.

Executive privilege belongs SOLELY to the current POTUS.

 

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

no it doesn't

Stop LYING. You don't know what you're talking about.

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

projection is a helluva drug

you're the one who doesn't understand

^STILL nothing to back your BS.