Yzermandius19 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Aristides said: No, you just trust people who make shit up. If, Trump says he declassified all this stuff, obviously he knew he had it in spite of saying he didn't. Elementary logic is a bitch. If you bother to read the warrant, it is quite specific about what they were after but you wouldn't know that because you just trust people who make shit up. and yet they grabbed a bunch of stuff that wasn't in the warrant including Trump's medical records and Melania's clothes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Stories currently airing on CNN: - inflation -illegal immigration -TRUMP STOLE NUCLEAR SECRETS FROM THE WHITEHOUSE!!!! -crime rates -fentanyl deaths -THREE HOURS OF DEADLY RIOTING ON JANUARY 6TH!!!!! -vaccine success [abject failure] rates Priorities, right? hell even the media isn't running with nuclear secrets bullshit anymore but the clowns on this forum are 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: and yet they grabbed a bunch of stuff that wasn't in the warrant including Trump's medical records and Melania's clothes And yet Trump’s own Attorney General explained why that is standard operating procedure. Suggestion: Next time the government issues you a subpoena, comply with the subpoena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: hell even the media isn't running with nuclear secrets bullshit anymore but the clowns on this forum are WaPo reported on yesterday, 6 September, that some of the seized documents pertained to another nation’s nuclear capabilities. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/06/trump-nuclear-documents/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Rebound said: And yet Trump’s own Attorney General explained why that is standard operating procedure. Suggestion: Next time the government issues you a subpoena, comply with the subpoena. he did comply and was continuing to comply they raided anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Rebound said: WaPo reported on yesterday, 6 September, that some of the seized documents pertained to another nation’s nuclear capabilities. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/06/trump-nuclear-documents/ ha ha WaPo moving the goalposts just like they did on Russia collusion they love to nuke their own credibility anonymous sources say for the lulz Edited September 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 9 hours ago, sharkman said: Except that this one nuclear document is a poison pill. Isn’t it interesting that they don’t name the nation whose nuclear abilities, etc., are contained therein? Such a huge deal, and yet let’s not name the nation involved. Because, 1) the nation involved is Iran. 2) it’s nuclear abilities are directly tied to a treaty a former president gave them. Without so much as a signature from Iran. This document was put there for the FBI to find, and they took the bait. Whatever you say, “Q.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: ha ha WaPo moving the goalposts just like they did on Russia collusion they love to nuke their own credibility anonymous sources say for the lulz Ha Ha, you said the media is no longer reporting this and I proved you’re wrong. MAGA can’t admit to mistakes. All you had to do was admit you were wrong, and even when presented with objective fact of your error, you just move the goalposts. If MAGA is right, then why all the lying? If MAGA is right, isn’t the plain truth good enough? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: he did comply and was continuing to comply they raided anyway That is absolutely bullshit. You are just allergic to telling the plain truth. Trump was given a legal, lawful subpoena for ALL OF these stolen documents. He stated under penalty of perjury that he’d returned them all. How is saying that “I have no more of these documents” the same as “continuing to comply”? When they searched his hotel room, some of them were sitting in his top desk drawer with his passport. Not like he needed to look for them. Q told me you should just admit the mistake, MAGA. Edited September 8, 2022 by Rebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Rebound said: Ha Ha, you said the media is no longer reporting this and I proved you’re wrong. MAGA can’t admit to mistakes. All you had to do was admit you were wrong, and even when presented with objective fact of your error, you just move the goalposts. If MAGA is right, then why all the lying? If MAGA is right, isn’t the plain truth good enough? WaPo is still running with it the rest of the media not so much obvious bullshit is obvious even to the fake news media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Rebound said: That is absolutely bullshit. You are just allergic to telling the plain truth. Trump was given a legal, lawful subpoena for ALL OF these stolen documents. He stated under penalty of perjury that he’d returned them all. How is saying that “I have no more of these documents” the same as “continuing to comply”? When they searched his hotel room, some of them were sitting in his top desk drawer with his passport. Not like he needed to look for them. Q told me you should just admit the mistake, MAGA. Trump did not sign anything saying he'd give back all the documents he said he'd give back some of them then they wanted other ones and he was talking to them about giving them back too they said he could keep some documents as long as he put another lock on them they raided him for political reasons only anyone who thinks otherwise is too blinded by TDS to see straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Stories currently airing on CNN: - inflation -illegal immigration -TRUMP STOLE NUCLEAR SECRETS FROM THE WHITEHOUSE!!!! -crime rates -fentanyl deaths -THREE HOURS OF DEADLY RIOTING ON JANUARY 6TH!!!!! -vaccine success [abject failure] rates Priorities, right? Indeed I'm sure the 10 people who still trust CNN are appalled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 31 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Trump did not sign anything saying he'd give back all the documents he said he'd give back some of them then they wanted other ones and he was talking to them about giving them back too they said he could keep some documents as long as he put another lock on them they raided him for political reasons only anyone who thinks otherwise is too blinded by TDS to see straight Can you write anything that isn’t an outright lie? “At least one lawyer for former President Donald Trump signed a written statement in June [3rd] asserting that all material marked as classified and held in boxes in a storage area at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and club had been returned to the government.” https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/ct-aud-nw-nyt-trump-material-returned-20220813-raubhojynvhg7mrl7dnpn4og3a-story.html This article lists the entire chain of events. You can find this information corroborated by many media outlets. The attorney who signed this was Christina Bobb, who represents Trump and is listed as the Custodian of his records. Her sworn statement is Trump’s; that’s how the law works. She signed on his behalf, placing herself and Da Boss in jeopardy of Obstruction of Justice charges. She can kiss her law career goodbye. Then again, that’s what happens to pretty much every lawyer who works for the man, and it should be obvious that it’s because Trump pressures his lawyers to break the law in his behalf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Rebound said: Can you write anything that isn’t an outright lie? “At least one lawyer for former President Donald Trump signed a written statement in June [3rd] asserting that all material marked as classified and held in boxes in a storage area at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and club had been returned to the government.” https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/ct-aud-nw-nyt-trump-material-returned-20220813-raubhojynvhg7mrl7dnpn4og3a-story.html This article lists the entire chain of events. You can find this information corroborated by many media outlets. The attorney who signed this was Christina Bobb, who represents Trump and is listed as the Custodian of his records. Her sworn statement is Trump’s; that’s how the law works. She signed on his behalf, placing herself and Da Boss in jeopardy of Obstruction of Justice charges. She can kiss her law career goodbye. Then again, that’s what happens to pretty much every lawyer who works for the man, and it should be obvious that it’s because Trump pressures his lawyers to break the law in his behalf. bad lawyers don't mean Trump committed perjury he gave back the classified material there is no crime that Trump committed your beef is with Bobb, not Trump Edited September 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Rebound said: Whatever you say, “Q.” Yeah? Which nation’s nuclear secrets were in Trump’s possession, smart guy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 Just now, sharkman said: Yeah? Which nation’s nuclear secrets were in Trump’s possession, smart guy? Your scenario seems likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: WaPo is still running with it the rest of the media not so much obvious bullshit is obvious even to the fake news media You’re wrong again, MAGA! 14 Hours ago, CNN: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/09/07/opinions/nuclear-secrets-trump-mar-a-lago-ghitis/index.html 23 hours ago, Vanity Fair: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/09/donald-trump-fbi-mar-a-lago-foreign-government-nuclear-document/amp 48 hours ago, The Guardian: https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/06/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-documents-nuclear-weapons-report 23 hours ago, MSNBC https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/shows/reidout/blog/rcna46638 23 hours ago, Reuters News: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/document-seized-trump-home-described-foreign-governments-nuclear-capabilities-2022-09-07/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rebound said: You’re wrong again, MAGA! 14 Hours ago, CNN: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/09/07/opinions/nuclear-secrets-trump-mar-a-lago-ghitis/index.html 23 hours ago, Vanity Fair: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/09/donald-trump-fbi-mar-a-lago-foreign-government-nuclear-document/amp 48 hours ago, The Guardian: https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/06/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-documents-nuclear-weapons-report 23 hours ago, MSNBC https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/shows/reidout/blog/rcna46638 23 hours ago, Reuters News: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/document-seized-trump-home-described-foreign-governments-nuclear-capabilities-2022-09-07/ ZOMG Nuclear Secrets! are back I guess anonymous sources say so pay no attention to the hundreds of times that anonymous sources were wrong about Trump keep believing, no matter how many times they cry wolf wishful thinking is a helluva drug Edited September 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 51 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: bad lawyers don't mean Trump committed perjury he gave back the classified material there is no crime that Trump committed your beef is with Bobb, not Trump Remember when Johnny Depp had to pay money to his ex-wife because of something Johnny’s lawyer said? Yeah. When you’re in court and your lawyer represents YOU, if you lose, you go to jail, not the lawyer. The lawyer in this instance signed the document as Trump’s legal representative, on Trump’s behalf. That’s how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: ZOMG Nuclear Secrets! are back I guess anonymous sources say so pay no attention to the hundreds of times that anonymous sources were wrong about Trump keep believing, no matter how many times they cry wolf wishful thinking is a helluva drug There we go, Mr. Lying MAGA is at it again. You said nobody in the media is reporting on the story that the documents contained nuclear information. I proved you wrong; WaPo reported it. So you said only WaPo reported it. I proved THAT wrong. Now you’re moving the goal posts. Sorry. You lied. You were wrong. You have been measured and found wanting. If the documents were declassified by Trump, why hasn’t he just gotten onstage to tell everybody what’s inside them? Edited September 8, 2022 by Rebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Rebound said: Remember when Johnny Depp had to pay money to his ex-wife because of something Johnny’s lawyer said? Yeah. When you’re in court and your lawyer represents YOU, if you lose, you go to jail, not the lawyer. The lawyer in this instance signed the document as Trump’s legal representative, on Trump’s behalf. That’s how it goes. apples and oranges Trump is not in court Edited September 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Rebound said: If the documents were declassified by Trump, why hasn’t he just gotten onstage to tell everybody what’s inside them? not relevant as to whether or not he declassified it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: apples and oranges Trump is not in court Of course it’s relevant. The point is that the lawyer signed the statement on behalf of the client she represents. Her crime is his crime. In fact, all she has to do is say, “I asked my boss if he still had any of these documents, and he said No,” and she’s off the hook. But nothing gets Trump off the hook; his legal representative signed that document on his behalf. So it’s legally the same as if Trump himself signed. Edited September 8, 2022 by Rebound 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: not relevant as to whether or not he declassified it Why? If those documents were declassified, then they are, in fact, publicly-available documents, correct? There is no in-between status, is there? If there is, tell us what it is and whether Trump was authorized to have THOSE secrets. Edited September 8, 2022 by Rebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, Rebound said: If there is, tell us what it is and whether Trump was authorized to have THOSE secrets. Authorized by whom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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