Zeitgeist Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, Aristides said: People got death threats, accosted in the street, had their homes and cars shot at. One woman served time for threatening Sandy Hook parents. All you think he should do is make one insincere apology and then go back to peddling more lies. He made a fortune villainizing the parents of murdered children and all you think he should do is say sorry? Give me a f*****g break. I'll tell you what is making people like Jones resort to these conjectures. MONEY! I told you I think what he did was wrong, but there’s no proportionality to these penalties. It’s why half the billboards in rust belt US cities are ads for injury lawyers. Suing has become legitimized extortion. I wasn’t at the trial and either were you, so it’s hard to know whether or to what extent his words were malicious in intent. They were wrong on many levels. If someone doesn’t know that their words are likely to lead to death threats or worse, is the person liable? Well the court said he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: I told you I think what he did was wrong, but there’s no proportionality to these penalties. It’s why half the billboards in rust belt US cities are ads for injury lawyers. Suing has become legitimized extortion. I wasn’t at the trial and either were you, so it’s hard to know whether or to what extent his words were malicious in intent. They were wrong on many levels. If someone doesn’t know that their words are likely to lead to death threats or worse, is the person liable? Well the court said he was. So what. Why do you waste your time defending a human skid mark like Jones? Why do you think he should walk away with hundreds of millions made from lying about the parents of murdered children? Why on earth do you think skid mark Jones is some sort of victim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 37 minutes ago, Aristides said: So what. Why do you waste your time defending a human skid mark like Jones? Why do you think he should walk away with hundreds of millions made from lying about the parents of murdered children? Why on earth do you think skid mark Jones is some sort of victim? I don’t think that way. I see his wrongdoing insofar as I can understand it based on what I know (which isn’t enough) and I see the value of a consequence for the acts. I don’t know how much money this man has but I know it’s not hundreds of millions. It’s probably not even tens of millions, which means that everything will be taken from this man. How much humiliation will satisfy you? How sadistic are you? Two wrongs don’t make a right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) https://www.insider.com/alex-jones-free-speech-systems-infowars-net-worth-testimony-20 Interestingly, 270M is the same number Y19 keeps quoting. However https://caknowledge.com/alex-jones-net-worth-forbes/ Lying can be lucrative, until you get sued. Edited August 12, 2022 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) Double post Edited August 12, 2022 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 8 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Did you believe his assertions that the Sandy Hook shooting was all fake? no that was obviously not the case he was right about the tragedy being used to try and infringe on the second amendment rights of Americans though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Nationalist said: I don't think anyone is "defending" Jones. I think they're saying he should have the right to voice his opinion, no matter how distasteful. Apparently though, the law disagrees. I am defending him he f*cked up on Sandy Hook but that is not a good enough reason to persecute him as his haters do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 5 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Just a small quibble that actually makes a huge difference…. It wasn’t his opinion, but the fact that he was intentionally lying about what happened and that is what caused the harm. If he had told the truth, and the truth had caused harm the exact same harm, he would have been completely in the clear. you have no evidence he was intentionally lying about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: I am defending him he f*cked up on Sandy Hook but that is not a good enough reason to persecute him as his haters do Ya, it is. Not to mention all his other f*ck ups. The guy is a walking turd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: For that Jones deserves to make a public mea culpa renouncing his denial. he has done that on numerous occasions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: you have no evidence he was intentionally lying about it Doesn't matter, he knowingly did harm to innocent people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Aristides said: Ya, it is. Not to mention all his other f*ck ups. The guy is a walking turd. he fcked up on Y2K too doesn't make him a walking turd though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 Just now, Aristides said: Doesn't matter, he knowingly did harm to innocent people. no he didn't other people did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Aristides said: People got death threats, accosted in the street, had their homes and cars shot at. not by Alex Jones who condemned that openly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: he fcked up on Y2K too doesn't make him a walking turd though Sandy Hook does just on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: not by Alex Jones who condemned that openly You are right, Jones didn't get death threats, only the objects of his lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: Sandy Hook does just on its own. false the good outweighs the bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: If your incorrect opinion causes financial and reputational damage, that's a tad different than hurt feelings. However in this case the court did monetize the hurt feelings of the parents. I think this might be a first? The parents suffered from more than "hurt feelings". Heslin and Lewis both said they fear for their lives and have been confronted by strangers at home and on the street. Heslin said his home and car have been shot at. The jury heard a death threat sent via telephone message to another Sandy Hook family. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: false the good outweighs the bad There is no good from this PoS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Aristides said: There is no good from this PoS. according to the media who brainwashed you I know better than those hacks trying to silence their competition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 45 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: you have no evidence he was intentionally lying about it A jury believed that there was enough evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: A jury believed that there was enough evidence. so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: so? So what would it matter if I have evidence, or not? Clearly a jury saw the evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: So what would it matter if I have evidence, or not? Clearly a jury saw the evidence. not a safe assumption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: not a safe assumption It’s just a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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