The Lie of Economic Impact from Border Blockade Debunked

[Michael Hardner]

@eyeball to your point on the other thread...

The original post was started by someone who quotes global News. BELOW is a link to three pages of search results about what this person says about Canadian media.  

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https://repolitics.com/forums/search/?&q=Media&author=West&search_and_or=or

 

 

 

 

[West]

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

@eyeball to your point on the other thread...

The original post was started by someone who quotes global News. BELOW is a link to three pages of search results about what this person says about Canadian media.  

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https://repolitics.com/forums/search/?&q=Media&author=West&search_and_or=or

 

 

 

 

Yup. And alot of those quotes turned out to be bang on as the media DID lie about a variety of things including the economic impact, the convoy trying to burn down an apartment building, the convoy leaders being tied to Russia, the Russians funding the convoy, and many other now debunked claims. 

As I already stated, as was the case with the fake collusion stories for the past four years, the pattern of behavior is 1. Smear with a fake claim. 2. Run it on a 24 hour news cycle. 3. Turns out story was fake. 4. Issue minor retraction to avoid lawsuits. 5. Move on to the next fake hoax. 

Media is at stage 4 now with the countless convoy stories now having to be retracted despite running fake hit pieces on the convoy to protect lunatics like Trudeau. Most never pay attention to the retraction and continue to push fake news despite it being fake.. and then when you point it out it's a fake story, they refuse to acknowledge it, call you a conspiracy theorist etc... classic examples of gaslighting

Yet you still don't acknowledge it. Why? 

Edited April 30, 2022 by West

[taxme]

14 hours ago, cougar said:

I do not know if anyone is raping anyone.  People are dying for sure.

It just struck me as extremely disgusting to see a well dressed and educated and likable person, speaking in a nice accent on some VIP international forum make those claims.  She was obviously no more than a car salesman.

Why would a Russian soldier be dragging a Ukrainian girl OUT of her house to rape her - rough pavement is better than a bed?  Why would her friends and family be there watching?  How come a Russian soldier in the middle of a military operation with bullets flying left and right has the physical and psychological ability to perform,while being watched by everyone as described........

Oh my.......I think the person who made the comment should be sent straight to the frontier lines to check her records again.

I am sick of watching these BS news.  It is no more news- only 100% propaganda.

 

Indeed, there is no soldier that is going to rape some female in the street while her family is forced to watch. And as you said, while bullets are flying around him. Indeed, a bed is much better than concrete. This arse hole of a female reporter either is dumb as a rock or she is just there to lie. I think that it is the latter. 

As I have mentioned here many times already. If one wants to hear complete lies and bull chit then keep on listening to the MSM like CNN and the CBC. And if people want to come on here and try to spew MSM lies and bs, well, I have news for them. I will challenge those MSM lies and bs. Works for me. LOL. 

[taxme]

1 hour ago, West said:

Yup. And alot of those quotes turned out to be bang on as the media DID lie about a variety of things including the economic impact, the convoy trying to burn down an apartment building, the convoy leaders being tied to Russia, the Russians funding the convoy, and many other now debunked claims. 

As I already stated, as was the case with the fake collusion stories for the past four years, the pattern of behavior is 1. Smear with a fake claim. 2. Run it on a 24 hour news cycle. 3. Turns out story was fake. 4. Issue minor retraction to avoid lawsuits. 5. Move on to the next fake hoax. 

Media is at stage 4 now with the countless convoy stories now having to be retracted despite running fake hit pieces on the convoy to protect lunatics like Trudeau. Most never pay attention to the retraction and continue to push fake news despite it being fake.. and then when you point it out it's a fake story, they refuse to acknowledge it, call you a conspiracy theorist etc... classic examples of gaslighting

Yet you still don't acknowledge it. Why? 

There is something about MH that has me always concerned. I do not trust that guy at all. Maybe MH is some kind of an agent provocateur, and is either working for some government outfit or some special interest Marxist group. Hey, we never know, eh? LOL.

And I am also pretty sure that MH does not like conservatives one bit. He appears to be quite the lefty liberal. MH appears to enjoy attacking and mocking conservatives quite a lot. Just saying.  

Just about everything that the lying MSM reports on or about always turns out in the end to be nothing more than a bunch of lefty liberal lies and hoaxes. That is what keeps them going. LIES. They create lies out of thin air, and hope that they can get the many idiots out there to believe their lies. Sadly, their lies and hoaxes seems to work quite well for them. 

Just like all of those MSM lies about those truckers. They were all once again just MSM lies. It is the truckers that are the true Canadian patriots here. It is the MSM Marxists in the MSM that is the enemy of we the peasants. Believe it or not. ?

[eyeball]

On 4/28/2022 at 3:50 AM, Dougie93 said:

then the full force of state military power will be brought to bear under the rubric of an emergency

OUR military?

Bwahahaha!

It's funny how all powerful our military becomes when trying to frighten and galvanize right-wingers. Any other time right wingers are falling all over themselves describing our military as a laughng-stock.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

OUR military?

Bwahahaha!

It's funny how all powerful our military becomes when trying to frighten and galvanize right-wingers. Any other time right wingers are falling all over themselves describing our military as a laughng-stock.

you don't need a powerful military to defend Canada

as the Canadian military is really just a subordinate formation within the United States Northern Command

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

you don't need a powerful military to defend Canada

Okay but won't Trudeau need a really big one to subjugate an entire country, especially one the size of our's?

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as the Canadian military is really just a subordinate formation within the United States Northern Command

I see - our military will be mere adjuncts to our enslavement and I guess we can expect the same from our police.

Well this turn of events will sure suck.

Why isn't there a terrorist group freedom brigade blowing things up and resisting as we speak?  What are they waiting for?

[Dougie93]

40 minutes ago, eyeball said:

 

Why isn't there a terrorist group freedom brigade blowing things up and resisting as we speak?  What are they waiting for?

Canada is entirely bourgeois

decades of living within the total safety of fortress America has produced an utterly unmartial population in Canada

Canada is easily subjugated by its culture of soft subservience, cronyism, and a general lack of nationalist fervor

[eyeball]

21 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Canada is entirely bourgeois

decades of living within the total safety of fortress America has produced an utterly unmartial population in Canada

Canada is easily subjugated by its culture of soft subservience, cronyism, and a general lack of nationalist fervor

So...we won't notice a thing and it'll be business as usual.

Why am I supposed to be freaked out by all this again? I must still be missing something.

[marcus]

50 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Canada is entirely bourgeois

decades of living within the total safety of fortress America has produced an utterly unmartial population in Canada

Canada is easily subjugated by its culture of soft subservience, cronyism, and a general lack of nationalist fervor

Who do you blame for the direction we're going?

What's the central issue?

How do we get out of it?

[Dougie93]

9 hours ago, marcus said:

Who do you blame for the direction we're going?

What's the central issue?

How do we get out of it?

I blame the Woke & the Greens

because they are really the Communists & the Nazis in sheep's clothing

the central issue is an attack on the West itself, the Western Enlightenment

the civil societies of the West are in a state of collapse at the fundamental belief level

I don't see a way out, 

it is at this juncture on trajectory to a massive sectarian civil war, genocidal mass murder on an industrial scale

that would then be a catalyst for a war of hegemonic succession, the fall of the West

a Third World War to include use of thermonuclear weapons

this has all happened before, in the 1930's

the rise of totalitarianism is the stuff the Second World War & Holocaust was made of

but now it is happening in the the Anglo-American hegenomy

the Weimarization of the Anglosphere, the end of the Pax Americana

so there is no one coming to save us this time

Edited May 1, 2022 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

9 hours ago, eyeball said:

So...we won't notice a thing and it'll be business as usual.

Why am I supposed to be freaked out by all this again? I must still be missing something.

no, not business as usual

because America has degenerated to the threshold of civil war once again

that is being spread to Canada inevitably, spilling over the ramparts

this will result in the total collapse of Canada's civil society

that will produce future generations which are particularly hardened, like Loyalists vs Fenians in Northern Ireland

Canada as a giant Ulster

 

[Michael Hardner]

19 hours ago, West said:

Yet you still don't acknowledge it. Why? 

I very much did.  And we both seem to trust Global overall.

[West]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I very much did.  And we both seem to trust Global overall.

My rule of thumb is generally to reserve judgment on any "breaking news" stories that sounds like a hit piece because often it is a hit piece

[Dougie93]

we are already now divided along these sectarian lines

the Woke/Green/Trans totalitarians have seized all institutions in Canada, they have the power of the monarch

so the Woke/Green/Trans are in the position of the Loyalists, backed by the Prime Minister himself

then the other sect is the Americanized populist counterrevolutionary movement against this totalitarianism

who are suddenly declared to be enemies of their own Crown, by the usurpers in Ottawa

the Woke/Green/Trans regime claiming that Canada's own native sons

the truckers & veterans, to be republican invaders from Confederate America

thus we are the Fenians now

 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, West said:

My rule of thumb is generally to reserve judgment on any "breaking news" stories that sounds like a hit piece because often it is a hit piece

Me too.  I failed to do so when I heard about the projected economic impact of the blockade.

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

we are already now divided along these sectarian lines

the Woke/Green/Trans totalitarians have seized all institutions in Canada, they have the power of the monarch

so the Woke/Green/Trans are in the position of the Loyalists, backed by the Prime Minister himself

then the other sect is the Americanized populist counterrevolutionary movement against this totalitarianism

who are suddenly declared to be enemies of their own Crown, by the usurpers in Ottawa

the Woke/Green/Trans regime claiming that Canada's own native sons

the truckers & veterans, to be republican invaders from Confederate America

thus we are the Fenians now

 

Interesting take.  I’d just say that the biggest threats to our democracy are forces of ideological purity.  The Nazi eugenicists are back in the form of public health purity policies supported by big tech/pharma:  We can choose a goal of say, Zero Covid, then justify oppressing the population to reach it.  We can do exactly the same on the environment.  Set an emissions reduction target, collect data to measure progress, and crush the population through restricting energy production, adding carbon taxes, etc.  The public health puritans operate on the same fear-based mass hysteria level as the green puritans.  They are totalitarians.  The woke are the socialist puritans, operating on the same level.  Defame the builders of our society as colonial-patriarchal-racist, etc. and set up groups as more or less worthy of government-issued opportunity, privilege, and money (sometimes called reparations) on the basis of superficial markers like skin colour or other “intersectionalities”.   Individual rights, abilities, and effort are devalued.  Representation becomes valued over merit.  It’s a return to race-based eugenics.

These are the forces destroying liberty, economic opportunity, and our very democracy.  These three forces are international, so it’s understandable that only parties that support national constitutional rights and freedoms are bucking this woke-green totalitarianism. Sadly, much of big tech is backing the woke-green totalitarians, to the extent of muzzling free speech, providing the digital ID and infrastructure for Chinese-style social credit systems, etc.  

[Dougie93]

7 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Interesting take.  I’d just say that the biggest threats to our democracy are forces of ideological purity.  The Nazi eugenicists are back in the form of public health purity policies supported by big tech/pharma:  We can choose a goal of say, Zero Covid, then justify oppressing the population to reach it.  We can do exactly the same on the environment.  Set an emissions reduction target, collect data to measure progress, and crush the population through restricting energy production, adding carbon taxes, etc.  The public health puritans operate on the same fear-based mass hysteria level as the green puritans.  They are totalitarians.  The woke are the socialist puritans, operating on the same level.  Defame the builders of our society as colonial-patriarchal-racist, etc. and set up groups as more or less worthy of government-issued opportunity, privilege, and money (sometimes called reparations) on the basis of superficial markers like skin colour or other “intersectionalities”.   Individual rights, abilities, and effort are devalued.  Representation becomes valued over merit.  It’s a return to race-based eugenics.

These are the forces destroying liberty, economic opportunity, and our very democracy.  These three forces are international, so it’s understandable that only parties that support national constitutional rights and freedoms are bucking this woke-green totalitarianism. Sadly, much of big tech is backing the woke-green totalitarians, to the extent of muzzling free speech, providing the digital ID and infrastructure for Chinese-style social credit systems, etc.  

but all that still exists within a Canadian context here

and that context is British North America

the Confederation of Canada born in 1867

how ?

why ?

it was of course the hysterical panic in the face of American republican invasion by the Fenians

raids which Canada could not actually defend against, and in fact relied on the US Army to quell instead

it wasn't Confederation which kept the Fenians at bay,

rather General Grant had them arrested on the American side

Queenston Heights, Ridgeway & Batoche,

these are the formation wars of Canada, deeply ingrained in the culture

Edited May 1, 2022 by Dougie93

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

but all that still exists within a Canadian context here

and that context is British North America

the Confederation of Canada born in 1867

how ?

why ?

it was of course the hysterical panic in the face of American republican invasion by the Fenians

raids which Canada could not actually defend against, and in fact relied on the US Army to quell instead

it wasn't Confederation which kept the Fenians at bay,

rather General Grant had them arrested on the American side

Queenston Heights, Ridgeway & Batoche,

these are the formation wars of Canada, deeply ingrained in the culture

You’re basically saying the context for these forces in Canada is the defence of the Crown colonies in North America.  That would make these totalitarian challenges about the opposition between maintaining the Crown versus having a republic in Canada.  I’m not sure that the woke-green totalitarian forces are aligned with the Crown more than the US Republic.  Don’t forget that Britain was the first major Western country to lift restrictions and mandates.  The US was fractured along party lines.  I do think Canada is much more aligned with the Dems than the Republican Party.  Canada politically is New York State or California — and it’s crushing our political freedom and economic potential.  The problem is woke-green radical socialism.  The forces are international and heavily supported by China, and to an alarming extent, by the Democrats and Liberals.  

Edited May 1, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

You’re basically saying the context for these forces in Canada is the defence of the Crown colonies in North America.  That would make the opposition between the Crown and having a republic.  I’m not sure that the woke-green totalitarian forces are aligned with the Crown more than the US Republic.  Don’t forget that Britain was the first major Western country to lift restrictions and mandates.  The US was fractured along party lines.  I do think Canada is much more aligned with the Dems than the Republican Party.  Canada politically is New York State or California — and it’s crushing our political freedom and economic potential.  

 

it's not that the Communists have aligned themselves with the Crown

rather they have taken the Crown as a hostage

the Communists have seized control from within, as that is the modus operandi of the Communists

they have infiltrated all the institutions in Canada, imposing their Bolshevism by way of those levers

they have seized the power of the monarch this way, and are now turning that power against you

the American counterrevolution is simply pursuing its Communist enemy into Canada

as Canada has become a safe haven for Anti-Western Bolsheviks now under the rule of the madman Trudeau

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

I blame the Woke & the Greens

because they are really the Communists & the Nazis in sheep's clothing

the central issue is an attack on the West itself, the Western Enlightenment

the civil societies of the West are in a state of collapse at the fundamental belief level

I don't see a way out, 

it is at this juncture on trajectory to a massive sectarian civil war, genocidal mass murder on an industrial scale

that would then be a catalyst for a war of hegemonic succession, the fall of the West

a Third World War to include use of thermonuclear weapons

this has all happened before, in the 1930's

the rise of totalitarianism is the stuff the Second World War & Holocaust was made of

but now it is happening in the the Anglo-American hegenomy

the Weimarization of the Anglosphere, the end of the Pax Americana

so there is no one coming to save us this time

Again I ask, why aren't there any terrorist groups freedom brigades resisting this?  Apparently there are millions of Canadians who are as aware of things as you so...why all the crickets?

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Again I ask, why aren't there any terrorist groups freedom brigades resisting this?  Apparently there are millions of Canadians who are as aware of things as you so...why all the crickets?

because the population in Canada does not believe in the institution of Canada

Canada is a Confederation created in 1867 to keep the French in, the Americans out, and the Indians down

in the name of the British Crown and associated Empire

Canadians don't believe in that anymore

so Canadians are not resolved to kill & die to defend Canada from foreign invasion of any sort

Canadians don't uphold the central narrative of Canada anymore, the story of their people

Canadians have made themselves passengers of competing alternate ideologies imported from America

America is simply overwhelming Canada now, Canadians are being Americanized en masse

the Reb Menace barbarians are through the gates, into the temple now

[Oksanna]

On 4/30/2022 at 10:26 AM, West said:

I never said "they are old so kill them". Thats a very warped and twisted summation of the argument.

I'm saying death is a normal part of life. No matter how many lives you decide to ruin, that 80 something year old with palliative stage four cancer is going to pass away....

But yet it's more tragic to you and somehow more noteworthy if they die of covid? Very strange..

It's not the summation that's warped and twisted, it's your take that's warped and twisted, my summation was exactly accurate. "Death is normal so kill people" that is precisely what you said.

If I could end or even significantly reduce cancer for all time by simply staying home, wearing a mask, or even better, just get a little shot, I would dive headfirst into it. because I'm not a monster. I'm not a coward, I'm not a terrible person.

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

because the population in Canada does not believe in the institution of Canada

But what about all you conservatives though? You must number in the millions.

Every last one of you are just going to roll over and let Mr Socks murder you?

Exactly WTF is the matter with you people.  You lack the courage of your convictions? You're afraid, defeated, too depressed...what exactly?

I simply cannot believe it.  And again I ask, why are we not seeing Jewish Canadians fleeing what's coming and warning us all to get out why we can?

When you see the inability of you people to answer questions like this you are faced with only two possibilities; 1. how completely filled with shit all this nonsense about Trudeau and the Nazi Party really is or 2. that conservatives constitute the biggest herd of chickenshit sheep that ever caved to oppression.

 

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

But what about all you conservatives though? You must number in the millions.

but I'm a dual citizen

American father, Canadian mother

my American father was a liberal, my Canadian mother is a Communist

so I am caught between the two paradigms

my Canadian side laments the death of Canada, the death of Victoria Regina Imperatrix

but my American side knows that it is gone and it is not coming back

and I know that nothing will stop America from filling that void with our Declaration of Independence

ultimately the right is towards God himself

inalienable natural rights endowed by the Creator

thus how all Western Enlightenment conservatives are driven to the shores of America

the Glorious Union, to free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying

a Terrible Swift Sword upon all who try to stand against the coming of the glory of the Lord

I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel