Convoy Arson Hoax

[West]

Looks like another left wing hoax has been debunked. For weeks we listened to the media and politicians spread the hoax about a convoy member lighting fires. We know it now, along with other fake stories, to be a hoax. 

beta.ctvnews.ca/local/ottawa/2022/3/21/1_5828171.amp.html

[WestCanMan]

I didn't even remember that story until you mentioned it just now, which is exactly why it was the perfect story for the MSM.

They use something like that in the moment to gin up more hatred of the convoy, knowing that by the time we find out the truth, if ever, the damage to the Freedom Convoy will have already been done, and the feeling that was created by that story will remain in the hearts of the sheeple.

All that this really does is help diminish the credibility of the MSM, but the sheeple will never acknowledge it anyways. The MSM provides them with all of their little 'causes' so that they can feel like SJWs, and the sheeple are addicted to that feeling. They'll protect their internal image of their MSM like a heroin addict will protect their stash. 

When the story first came out I found it just a little too perfect that the fire was 1) small and innocuous 2) in a spot that was relatively safe and 3) where it would be caught on video, and 4) it was placed there just moments before a good samaritan just happened to come by. 

It wasn't lit, it was Smol-litt.

[West]

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I didn't even remember that story until you mentioned it just now, which is exactly why it was the perfect story for the MSM.

They use something like that in the moment to gin up more hatred of the convoy, knowing that by the time we find out the truth, if ever, the damage to the Freedom Convoy will have already been done, and the feeling that was created by that story will remain in the hearts of the sheeple.

All that this really does is help diminish the credibility of the MSM, but the sheeple will never acknowledge it anyways. The MSM provides them with all of their little 'causes' so that they can feel like SJWs, and the sheeple are addicted to that feeling. They'll protect their internal image of their MSM like a heroin addict will protect their stash. 

When the story first came out I found it just a little too perfect that the fire was 1) small and innocuous 2) in a spot that was relatively safe and 3) where it would be caught on video, and 4) it was placed there just moments before a good samaritan just happened to come by. 

It wasn't lit, it was Smol-litt.

Yup. That's what they do. And the public eats it up. 

[Queenmandy85]

I haven't been able to find an MSM story claiming to link this arson to the illegal occupation convoy. I remember rumours on social media but no accusations by the MSM actually claiming a link.

Do you have a reference that shows this link in the MSM?

[Moonbox]

On 3/22/2022 at 7:36 PM, West said:

Looks like another left wing hoax has been debunked. For weeks we listened to the media and politicians spread the hoax about a convoy member lighting fires. We know it now, along with other fake stories, to be a hoax. 

beta.ctvnews.ca/local/ottawa/2022/3/21/1_5828171.amp.html

but this is a CTV news article...how can it be trusted?  

[West]

10 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I haven't been able to find an MSM story claiming to link this arson to the illegal occupation convoy. I remember rumours on social media but no accusations by the MSM actually claiming a link.

Do you have a reference that shows this link in the MSM?

 

[West]

7 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

but this is a CTV news article...how can it be trusted?  

It's safe now for them to "correct" fake news stories as their fake stories served a purpose and the protest is dispersed. They can now claim journalistic integrity tho we know its an act. 

We see it alot with media hoaxes such as Jussie Smollett, the covington kids, and Donald Trump. 

Rule of thumb is generally wait a bit for any "major story" for the "corrections"

[Queenmandy85]

So you have terrified people speculating on who was responsible for setting fire to their home, and the MSM saying there was no known connection between the one suspect in custody and the illegal occupation. Against my better judgement, I violated my own rule and clicked on the link. At no time did CTV say the arsonists were part of the illegal occupation. It was the residents speculation. I presume you have actual evidence the MSM said the fire was set by the illegal occupiers?

[Queenmandy85]

13 minutes ago, West said:

It's safe now for them to "correct" fake news stories as their fake stories served a purpose and the protest is dispersed. They can now claim journalistic integrity tho we know its an act. 

We see it alot with media hoaxes such as Jussie Smollett, the covington kids, and Donald Trump. 

Rule of thumb is generally wait a bit for any "major story" for the "corrections"

What has Jussie Smollett, the covington kids, and Donald Trump got to do with it? They are all American tabloid stories and have no connection with Canadian MSM journalism. 

[Moonbox]

5 minutes ago, West said:

It's safe now for them to "correct" fake news stories as their fake stories served a purpose and the protest is dispersed. They can now claim journalistic integrity tho we know its an act. 

Wouldn't it have been just easier to ignore it and move on?  Why draw attention back to it if everyone's forgotten about it?  

Here's a summary of this "hoax":

There was a arson attempt in an apartment building.  The apartment building was in the red zone of the freedom convoy protest.  The police investigated whether these were linked.  The media reported this.  It turned out there wasn't.  Now the media reports that there wasn't.  

Earth shattering stuff here bud.  

 

[West]

18 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

So you have terrified people speculating on who was responsible for setting fire to their home, and the MSM saying there was no known connection between the one suspect in custody and the illegal occupation. Against my better judgement, I violated my own rule and clicked on the link. At no time did CTV say the arsonists were part of the illegal occupation. It was the residents speculation. I presume you have actual evidence the MSM said the fire was set by the illegal occupiers?

Yeah in no way did they imply, state or suggest the freedom convoy was responsible for arson. 

One lady in the building heard the arsonist say "I am a protester I support the protest".

The #FreedomConvoy in the link is just there ?. 

Edited March 24, 2022 by West

[West]

Just now, Moonbox said:

Wouldn't it have been just easier to ignore it and move on?  Why draw attention back to it if everyone's forgotten about it?  

Here's a summary of this "hoax":

There was a arson attempt in an apartment building.  The apartment building was in the red zone of the freedom convoy protest.  The police investigated whether these were linked.  The media reported this.  It turned out there wasn't.  Now the media reports that there wasn't.  

Earth shattering stuff here bud.  

 

?

You folks throw out some wild accusations against the convoy and we are just supposed to "move on". 

Okay bud

[West]

1 minute ago, Queenmandy85 said:

What has Jussie Smollett, the covington kids, and Donald Trump got to do with it? They are all American tabloid stories and have no connection with Canadian MSM journalism. 

All examples of media hoaxes seeking to discredit or disparage one group of people. 

It's funny the media will go on the attack then play the victim when called out

[Queenmandy85]

1 minute ago, West said:

?

You folks throw out some wild accusations against the convoy and we are just supposed to "move on". 

Okay bud

You have to remember the climate at the time when seniors and healthcare workers were being harassed and even allegations of assault. You should not be surprised when a victim of the arson attempt in the "Red Zone" speculated it may have been by participants of the illegal occupation.

[Queenmandy85]

6 minutes ago, West said:

All examples of media hoaxes seeking to discredit or disparage one group of people. 

It's funny the media will go on the attack then play the victim when called out

But the examples you use are all American stories. 

[Michael Hardner]

On 3/22/2022 at 7:36 PM, West said:

Looks like another left wing hoax has been debunked. For weeks we listened to the media and politicians spread the hoax about a convoy member lighting fires. We know it now, along with other fake stories, to be a hoax. 

beta.ctvnews.ca/local/ottawa/2022/3/21/1_5828171.amp.html

Hmmm... I think it was posted as a single Twitter update.  Not sure what 'media' you are listening to.

As always, I cautioned people to pause in the face of rumours.  And I never did see the accreditation from real journalists.
 

 

[Michael Hardner]

11 minutes ago, West said:

All examples of media hoaxes seeking to discredit or disparage one group of people. 

It's funny the media will go on the attack then play the victim when called out

They actually showed a protestor pointing out that there was nothing tying them to the protesters.

 

[Michael Hardner]

Of course, with the media being challenged pervasively as part of our culture they are taking extra steps to watch what they say.

A good thing IMHO

[Queenmandy85]

When a fire breaks out in the lobby of an apartment building, that is news. It is normal for journalists to interview the victims in that situation. It was the victims who speculated on the motivation, not the media. Until a suspect is arrested, there is no way for the media to attribute motive one way or another, and, to be fair, this suspect has not had his day in court and must be presumed innocent unless proven guilty in Court.

Edited March 24, 2022 by Queenmandy85

[West]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Hmmm... I think it was posted as a single Twitter update.  Not sure what 'media' you are listening to.

As always, I cautioned people to pause in the face of rumours.  And I never did see the accreditation from real journalists.
 

 

?. I gave you a Global news story. 

Who else falsely claimed that the truckers tried to burn down an apartment building? 

-Mayor of Ottawa

-Jagmeet Singh

"Also at the time, federal New Democrat leader Jagmeet Singh said of the convoy, “Violence is commonplace,” and used the alleged attempted arson as an example, even though it was not an act associated with the truckers."

https://amp/s/torontosun.com/news/provincial/alleged-arson-attempt-not-connected-to-truckers-ottawa-police/wcm/07073f06-f9db-4d7e-a9a5-6d9225ad1bf7/amp/

 

And others..

Yet the leftists are all like "I know we accused you of trying to murder a bunch of people but cmon just move on" ?

[West]

6 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

When a fire breaks out in the lobby of an apartment building, that is news. It is normal for journalists to interview the victims in that situation. It was the victims who speculated on the motivation, not the media. Until a suspect is arrested, there is no way for the media to attribute motive one way or another, and, to be fair, this suspect has not had his day in court and must be presumed innocent unless proven guilty in Court.

Is it normal to speculate without evidence that it was the "Freedom Convoy" who tried to crisp a bunch of people alive? Demonizing people is an age old tactic and sign of people who aren't right upstairs. Look at Nero who blamed the Christians. Hitler blamed the Jews. The Hootus blamed for Tootsies. The Democrats blame white people. And on and on it goes. 

Seems to me that's trying to incite violence against a group of people...

Edited March 24, 2022 by West

[Queenmandy85]

But it was not the media that speculated. It was the victims.

[Moonbox]

2 minutes ago, West said:

You folks throw out some wild accusations against the convoy and we are just supposed to "move on". 

What accusations?  The police investigated whether there were links to an arson and the very visible protest that was happening around it (which is entirely reasonable).  The building's The media reported this. 

You could maybe make an argument about the media's bias against the trucker's protest here, and that they were all too happy to report on any/all potential news that made them look bad, but that was just low-hanging fruit and easy ratings.  That's an actual argument you could make with a straight face, but there's no hoax here, lol.  

It doesn't seem like you can help yourself though.  You're so riled up and emotional that you blow everything out of proportion and can barely articulate beyond wild hyperbole and silly conspiracy theories.  

[Zeitgeist]

4 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

What accusations?  The police investigated whether there were links to an arson and the very visible protest that was happening around it (which is entirely reasonable).  The building's The media reported this. 

You could maybe make an argument about the media's bias against the trucker's protest here, and that they were all too happy to report on any/all potential news that made them look bad, but that was just low-hanging fruit and easy ratings.  That's an actual argument you could make with a straight face, but there's no hoax here, lol.  

It doesn't seem like you can help yourself though.  You're so riled up and emotional that you blow everything out of proportion and can barely articulate beyond wild hyperbole and silly conspiracy theories.  

Are you the Communications Officer for the Liberals?

[Moonbox]

4 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Are you the Communications Officer for the Liberals?

Cope and seethe more.