Evil Russian Empire invades defenseless Ukraine.

[Dougie93]

6 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Being a patriot or patriotic has no bearing on whether your country is going to win or lose a war that is controlled by government...The government sets the rules, and conditions, even the best soldiers can not win when the odds are against them, does not mean for one minute they would not go and fight.  i doubt there is 200 million fighting age Americans, but you'll not convince me that Americans are not patriotic and would not fight for they're country when asked.....

Not sure what your point is here, Americans can't be beating the shit our of every country that has burned an American flag... But i'm sure they don't like it... now todays Canadians are another breed altogether, the majority are not very patriotic, nor would they stand up and join the military if it was in Canada's interest...9/11 was the exception Canadians recruitment centers seen a 300 % increase in people wanting to join...

when it is preemptive aggressive war by the Nuremberg Principles in contravention of Hague & Geneva

when they are bombarding population centers indiscriminately

when they are sending Chechen mercenaries to mass murder Christians in Europe

when their concept of operations is genocidal total war of annihilation

when they are imposing Soviet totalitarianism in Russia itself

while engaging in nuclear blackmail against NATO SHAPE & NORAD National Command Authority

you run to the sound of the guns

[CITIZEN_2015]

The Russian Nazi regime is now claiming Russia did not attack Ukraine. It makes the point that hence as a proof that it does not plan to attack any other country either!!!!!, based on that claim!!!!!!!!

Lavrov also said Russia had no plans to attack any other country.

"We do not plan to attack other countries; we did not attack Ukraine either. However, we just explained to Ukraine repeatedly that a situation posed direct security threats to the Russian Federation," he said.

[CITIZEN_2015]

Russians bombed a maternity hospital murdering pregnant women and newly born Ukrainian babies.

Russian leaders including Putin and his entire murderous cabinet and entire members of current Russian army should be put on trial in international courts in absence and prosecuted for war crimes. Any one of them leaving Russian border will be arrested as war criminal and put in jail or hanged.

[500channelsurfer]

How is Ukranian defense working? Is their defense mostly depending upon drone attacks? I was expecting Ukranian army to launch counterattacks utilizing terrain etc. such as North Vietnam did in Vietnam. 

[CITIZEN_2015]

2 minutes ago, 500channelsurfer said:

How is Ukranian defense working? Is their defense mostly depending upon drone attacks? I was expecting Ukranian army to launch counterattacks utilizing terrain etc. such as North Vietnam did in Vietnam. 

I don't know what terrain is but Ukrainian ground forces seems to have put a good defense against Russian army but their air defense has not done a good job in protecting civilians from Russian Arial bombardments or missile attacks as why thousands of civilians have been killed. The West has refused to provide Ukraine with advanced fighter jets hence their air force is very weak compare to damn Russia. 

[500channelsurfer]

Does Poland not have the right to donate fighter jets to Ukraine? How can USA decide Poland will not to send planes Ukranians are trained to use into Ukraine?

That plan made perfect sense. It would have provided immediate help to Ukranian ground forces by having fully utilizable planes help in the skies defend Ukranian air space. Meanwhile, NATO is already beefing up deployments all over Eastern Eurpe's NATO countries. By supplying Poland with newer planes to replace the ones donated to Ukranian army, NATO members are merely more effectively pursuing actions they are already taking.

[CITIZEN_2015]

All the evil regimes in the world like Syria, Iran, North Korea and now China are supporting the murderous Russia against defenseless Ukrainian people.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-60732486

 

[athos]

The servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who were captured by the forces of the DPR were led along the Alley of Angels in Donetsk, a place of memory for children who died during the 8 years of the war in Donbass. Take a good look at how many innocent children's lives you have taken with your shelling.

 

 

Edited March 14, 2022 by athos

[athos]

On 3/13/2022 at 4:04 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

I don't know what terrain is but Ukrainian ground forces seems to have put a good defense against Russian army but their air defense has not done a good job in protecting civilians from Russian Arial bombardments or missile attacks as why thousands of civilians have been killed. The West has refused to provide Ukraine with advanced fighter jets hence their air force is very weak compare to damn Russia. 

Don't worry NATO is prepared to protect Ukraine to the last Ukranian.

 

[athos]

On 3/9/2022 at 5:03 AM, Army Guy said:

Being a patriot or patriotic has no bearing on whether your country is going to win or lose a war that is controlled by government...The government sets the rules, and conditions, even the best soldiers can not win when the odds are against them, does not mean for one minute they would not go and fight.  i doubt there is 200 million fighting age Americans, but you'll not convince me that Americans are not patriotic and would not fight for they're country when asked.....

Not sure what your point is here, Americans can't be beating the shit our of every country that has burned an American flag... But i'm sure they don't like it... now todays Canadians are another breed altogether, the majority are not very patriotic, nor would they stand up and join the military if it was in Canada's interest...9/11 was the exception Canadians recruitment centers seen a 300 % increase in people wanting to join...

The British colony Canada cannot be patriotic because it has no developed national or cultural identity. Canada is a conglomerate inhabited by Chinese, Germans, French, English, decimated Eskimos and everyone else.
The so-called Canadian is only a geographical term and and has nothing to do with national category. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is Queen of Canada and Head of State. British monarch is also The commander-in-chief of the Canadian Armed Forces. Consequently we have Royal Canadian Navy, Royal Canadian Air Force and so on.

In such environment there is no much room left for national patriotic feelings.

To summarize Canada is spatially huge, culturally tiny and politically insignificant.

 

[Yzermandius19]

this thread title is totally inaccurate

as Ukraine has proved to be very far from defenseless

Putin wishes it was defenseless

womp womp

Edited March 14, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, athos said:

The British colony Canada cannot be patriotic because it has no developed national or cultural identity. Canada is a conglomerate inhabited by Chinese, Germans, French, English, decimated Eskimos and everyone else.
The so-called Canadian is only a geographical term and and has nothing to do with national category. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is Queen of Canada and Head of State. British monarch is also The commander-in-chief of the Canadian Armed Forces. Consequently we have Royal Canadian Navy, Royal Canadian Air Force and so on.

In such environment there is no much room left for national patriotic feelings.

To summarize Canada is spatially huge, culturally tiny and politically insignificant.

 

Thats rich, coming from someone from Russia...people who live in glass houses should not throw rocks...

[Army Guy]

5 hours ago, athos said:

Don't worry NATO is prepared to protect Ukraine to the last Ukranian.

 

And Putin is willing to spend all of Russia's youth to take Ukraine...aaahhh you got lots of young men no problem right...they will sing songs about their sacrifice, dance in the streets once a year to remember them, erect stone monuments with each dead soldiers name on it to honor there sacrifice...everything will be good right...

[Zeitgeist]

4 hours ago, athos said:

The British colony Canada cannot be patriotic because it has no developed national or cultural identity. Canada is a conglomerate inhabited by Chinese, Germans, French, English, decimated Eskimos and everyone else.
The so-called Canadian is only a geographical term and and has nothing to do with national category. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is Queen of Canada and Head of State. British monarch is also The commander-in-chief of the Canadian Armed Forces. Consequently we have Royal Canadian Navy, Royal Canadian Air Force and so on.

In such environment there is no much room left for national patriotic feelings.

To summarize Canada is spatially huge, culturally tiny and politically insignificant.

 

Actually Canada has a lot of rich culture, including over 200 Indigenous groups, Acadiens, Québécois, Métis, Scot and Irish in Cape Breton and Newfoundland, Loyalists, etc.  The colonial aspects of Canada are a curse and a strength, depending on how you view our links to the Crown.  I think it’s a strength, but Trudeau tends to emphasize new “post-national” non-identity, which plays into China’s and Internationalist Marxism.  It’s mostly vapid nihilism that doesn’t represent the interests, cultures, or constitutional rights of Canadians.  

[Dougie93]

3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Actually Canada has a lot of rich culture, including over 200 Indigenous groups, Acadiens, Québécois, Métis, Scot and Irish in Cape Breton and Newfoundland, Loyalists, etc.  The colonial aspects of Canada are a curse and a strength, depending on how you view our links to the Crown.  I think it’s a strength, but Trudeau tends to emphasize new “post-national” non-identity, which plays into China’s and Internationalist Marxism.  It’s mostly vapid nihilism that doesn’t represent the interests, cultures, or constitutional rights of Canadians.  

Canada did and does play an important role in a Cold War against the Kremlin

Canada is the only other North American member besides America

so if Canada decides to go, that drags America in by default

and Canada will of course side with Ukraine, one in twenty Canadians being an Ukrainian Canadian

 

[Dougie93]

8 hours ago, athos said:

Don't worry NATO is prepared to protect Ukraine to the last Ukranian.

we are champing at the bit, pulling on the leash

keep calling us out, it will be your undoing

[CITIZEN_2015]

10 hours ago, athos said:

Don't worry NATO is prepared to protect Ukraine to the last Ukranian.

 

Russia is an evil regime. It has been an evil country for centuries evil during Tsars and after up to now. Ukrainian people are not the only victims but the Russian support for other evil regimes like Assad regime in Syria, Islamic republic of Iran and North Korea has kept those evil regimes in power and their population are also paying a high price for Russia's existence. 

[Dougie93]

the Kremlin has crossed the Rubicon

the whole world is turning against them now

even the Chinese will come to our side in the end

Slava Ukraini, Geroyim Slava

 

[athos]

9 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Thats rich, coming from someone from Russia...people who live in glass houses should not throw rocks...

Wrong, I am not from Russia.

[athos]

10 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Actually Canada has a lot of rich culture, including over 200 Indigenous groups, Acadiens, Québécois, Métis, Scot and Irish in Cape Breton and Newfoundland, Loyalists, etc.  The colonial aspects of Canada are a curse and a strength, depending on how you view our links to the Crown.  I think it’s a strength, but Trudeau tends to emphasize new “post-national” non-identity, which plays into China’s and Internationalist Marxism.  It’s mostly vapid nihilism that doesn’t represent the interests, cultures, or constitutional rights of Canadians.  

At first,you considered the natives to be uncivilized semi-human beings, and then decimated them and now you are stealing their culture. It's like stealing clothes and raping a half-dead body.

Goodness me, what sort of  hypocrites you are.

 

 

 

 

 

[athos]

A volunteer from France crying after the missile strike at the training center at Yavoriv. Ηe thought war was an internet game. He lost friends from the bombing and in a state of shock he repeats: "the base was destroyed .... the base was destroyed". - Strike at training center at Yavoriv killing "up to 180 foreign mercenaries".

Russia's Ministry of Defense: "All locations of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine are known. Strikes against them will continue."

Edited March 15, 2022 by athos

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, athos said:

At first,you considered the natives to be uncivilized semi-human beings, and then decimated them and now you are stealing their culture. It's like stealing clothes and raping a half-dead body.

Goodness me, what sort of  hypocrites you are.

 

 

 

 

 

What does that mean?  Quite a lot of hyperbole.  Did you steal Indigenous cultures?  I consider myself a protector of cultures.

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, athos said:

At first,you considered the natives to be uncivilized semi-human beings, and then decimated them and now you are stealing their culture. It's like stealing clothes and raping a half-dead body.

Goodness me, what sort of  hypocrites you are.

 

 

 

 

 

That’s very interesting.  Tell us about the Maoist Revolution.  What about the Cultural Revolution.  Uighers.  What is to be done about the sins of the past?   We must learn from each other the lessons of history!   It’s always been about liberty and the human spirit.  Support that and you can’t lose.  

[athos]

EU petrol 2.5 euros/l.
Russia petrol 25 cents/l.

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[CITIZEN_2015]

Russia's murderous army targeted a theatre where civilians were seeking refuge. Over 100 defenseless civilians murdered by Russia just today. Biden very correctly called Putin a murderous dictator.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/ukraine-russia-war-live-updates-biden-calls-putin-war-criminal-n1292096

Any show of support for Putin or his actions in Ukraine is participating in mass murder of women and children.

Edited March 18, 2022 by CITIZEN_2015