Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) then this "ex flyer" avatar comes on the forum and he laughs at all this ? this guy claims to be RCAF ? f*ck "Ex Flyer" and the horse he rode in on Edited April 9, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted April 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 36 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: it's not about me it is only about the fallen what they died for what they believed in, as they died and how this Canada fails to live up to that sacrifice you know it, I know it if we honor our brothers deaths if we apply our indoctrination : never pass a fault then we must call for the end of this Confederation as it is this governance now is an abomination if you accept this "Canada" now as being legitimate ? then our bothers died for nothing Yes it is brother, it is about all of us, we are among the few that will carry that torch and keep our promises to never forget...not just for the fallen but for all of us... we must never let Canada forget who they are and what they did, and who we are and what we did.... What this nation needs is a huge wake up call...Besides we both know the fallen rarely did what they did for Queen and country or Canadians back home... it was for their brothers and sisters to the left and right of them...civvies will never understand that...they will never understand the brotherhood is for life it comes with sharing real hardships, real sacrifices, real life and death struggles...for them the it is all a game like call to duty...for us, there was no respawn's, death was real, death meant sharing a lonely ride in the back of a Herc with you best friends coffin wrapped in our flag...and trying to explain to his family how he died, that is real... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Army Guy said: Yes it is brother, it is about all of us, we are among the few that will carry that torch and keep our promises to never forget...not just for the fallen but for all of us... we must never let Canada forget who they are and what they did, and who we are and what we did.... Canada doesn't give a shit, Canada is not a serious country, Canada is not even a country Canada is just Confederation, it's just an agreement, it's not an idea, there is no metaphysical Canada there's nothing to carry a torch for, Canada has no memory, it's not a person, it's just a contract Edited April 9, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted April 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: then this "ex flyer" avatar comes on the forum and he laughs at all this ? this guy claims to be RCAF ? fuck "Ex Flyer" and his family too pray you don't get doxxed, you stolen valor motherfucker He has done his time as well dougie, he is one of us, he may be blue but he walked the same line as the rest of us... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Army Guy said: He has done his time as well dougie, he is one of us, he may be blue but he walked the same line as the rest of us... nah, f*ck that piece of shit, he's not with me, I have no affiliation with this clown Edited April 9, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) "ex flyer" is not one of us, it's just an anonymous avatar posing as an "RCAF" service member Edited April 9, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Dougie93 said: I am Master Corporal (ret) Andrew R. Smith, CD A29475675 I served with the Royal Canadian Regiment & 48th Highlanders of Canada I was an instructor at the Royal Canadian Regiment Battleschool I was DS with the Canadian Army Advanced Warfare Center MAJAID Team I'm a decorated Canadian Army veteran, with 16 years service in the Royal Canadian Infantry Corps who are you ? such a proud Canadian patriot that you have to hide behind an anonymous internet avatar ? Not that it matters but I retired from The Canadian Air Force as a Chief Warrant Officer at NDHQ after 35 years service. I served over 20 years operational flying for Search and Rescue, as I explained to Army Guy in another post.. I do not and will not identify myself on an internet forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Army Guy said: Dougie has earned his right to make any statement about our military and country, he has done his time in the Regiment like any other soldier, ... nothing is going to change if we continue down the same road as before, " be good soldiers and stop whining" it may have worked while we where in, but only becasue everyone felt the same way, and was tired of hearing about it... frustrated beyond words, frustrated that nobody was listening, frustrated that nobody cares , frustrated because you seen government mistakes take lives of comrades or close friends, frustrated because you seen comrades take their own lives becasue they could no longer cope with day to day life challenges due to massive back logs in mental and physical health help....frustrated becasue your treated like shit when you return for operations...frustrated for being treated like shit for asking for help... Frustrated becasue Canadians have stood on the side lines and watched our military deteriorate every day, they laugh and joke about our plight, but could not be bother to offer any help...besides who could hear us asking for help over the deafen chirp for more social programs and the incessant what about me, me. me He is a veteran just like you, and if Canadians will not fight for or listen to our comrades or our own rights who will....we have the support of a minority of Canadians, the rest well they sooner or later they will listen, only it will be to late, and it will be their sons and daughters strapping into a 50 year old fighter plane or main battle tank...only to be loaded onto the back of a Herc in a flagged dropped coffin...because we where to freaking cheap to buy the safest equipment... I agree with most of what you say. I took offence at several things in his post: "the procurement system itself is broken beyond repair". He did not work within it and I did, I explained to you how it worked. It is not the "system" but it is primarily political interference. "Canada has died a cowards death " and "the military is as dead as every other aspect of this Banana Republic " is an insult to everyone in Uniform "defend yourself & your property, take care of your neighbors" sounds like suggesting vigilantism or extremism like in the US. "Canada will betray her most loyal patriots, Canada is filthy, disgusting, rotten " an extremely negative accusation upon Canada. Hence I asked when he was moving. None of which sounds to me like an person that unquestionably donned a Uniform for his Country. Sounds more like an extremest or, as I said bitter and twisted. I apologize for being pro Canada. I served my Country for love of Country, for better or worse. Sorry. Edited April 9, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 42 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Not that it matters but I retired from The Canadian Air Force as a Chief Warrant Officer at NDHQ after 35 years service. I served over 20 years operational flying for Search and Rescue, as I explained to Army Guy in another post.. I do not and will not identify myself on an internet forum. anonymous avatars have mo service records Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 44 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: I agree with most of what you say. I took offence at several things in his post: "the procurement system itself is broken beyond repair". He did not work within it and I did, I explained to you how it worked. It is not the "system" but it is primarily political interference. "Canada has died a cowards death " and "the military is as dead as every other aspect of this Banana Republic " is an insult to everyone in Uniform "defend yourself & your property, take care of your neighbors" sounds like suggesting vigilantism or extremism like in the US. "Canada will betray her most loyal patriots, Canada is filthy, disgusting, rotten " an extremely negative accusation upon Canada. Hence I asked when he was moving. None of which sounds to me like an person that unquestionably donned a Uniform for his Country. Sounds more like an extremest or, as I said bitter and twisted. I apologize for being pro Canada. I served my Country for love of Country, for better or worse. Sorry. I'm a dual citizen, American-Canadian so you just insulted 330 million of my countrymen and those are the people who actually defend Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 by the way, you supposedly have a right to defend yourself and your property in Canada the "extremist" is the government man who calls that something that only Americans have a right to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: sounds like suggesting vigilantism ah, so now I am a criminal because I invoke the Charter of Rights & Freedoms ? did your brain turn to mush from all those years of being a crony at NDHQ ? Edited April 9, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 56 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: None of which sounds to me like an person that unquestionably donned a Uniform for his Country. Sounds more like an extremest or, as I said bitter and twisted. bitter, but not twisted you are the one who is twisted if you think any Canadian is somehow bound to serve unquestioningly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Folks, Please avoid personal attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: bitter, but not twisted you are the one who is twisted if you think any Canadian is somehow bound to serve unquestioningly Wow, 5 posts to defend yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: Wow, 5 posts to defend yourself? there's no need to defend myself from an anonymous avatar I'm just pointing out how twisted your idea of citizenship is things that are my rights, you invoke as being criminal somehow you invoke Canada as being something that must be served unquestioningly so you are actually the extremist, sounds to me like you are a Communist in fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 in the end, this supposed "CWO" from NDHQ simply makes my case these are the sorts of people who think they rule Canada from their ivory tower in Ottawa they view Americans as being the enemy, when Americans are the ones who protect Canada it's not like the CF is actually capable of doing it, it's not like Canada does the job, Canada is the ultimate free rider then on top of that, they think that your fundamental Charter rights is "vigilantism" why would that be ? because Canada has a criminal government which fears its own citizens furthermore, these people are totalitarians who demand unquestioning obedience, as if this is Communist China here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Hence I asked when he was moving. ah yes, you invoked "love it or leave it" which is not even a Canadian value that is an American value "love it or leave it" is an American extremist nationalist position I guess you just wish you were an American deep down since you are mimicking us in contravention of your own culture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: ah yes, you invoked "love it or leave it" which is not even a Canadian value that is an American value "love it or leave it" is an American extremist nationalist position I guess you just wish you were an American deep down since you are mimicking us in contravention of your own culture Chuckle 3 more to defend yourself. Thing is, I know what I am, what I did, where and when I served and what I retired as and what my values are. Don't wish to be anybody else. Sure got under your skin eh? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Sure got under your skin eh? LOL pretty sure you said I was the one who got under your skin then you apologized for losing your cool about it you said you were insulted by my lack of love for this Banana Republic "Post National State" I don't apologize for that though, I am not bound to any fealty to Canadian Confederation I only swore an oath to Her Majesty at Buckingham Palace I never swore an oath to defend Canadian Confederation, and I certainly never swore an oath to love it it's entirely consistent with the Canadian constitution to say death to Confederation, vive le Quebec libre Edited April 9, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Thing is, I know what I am, not really since you are clearly mimicking Americans as if Canada was America, oblivious to the history of Canada therein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: not really since you are clearly mimicking Americans as if Canada was America, oblivious to the history of Canada therein 2 more? LOL So insecure it takes 11 posts to defend? LOl Edited April 9, 2022 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: 2 more? LOL I guess you are done trying to argue your case /shrugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I guess you are done trying to argue your case /shrugs Never argued. Not worth it. Just continuing to laugh at your defences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Never argued. Not worth it. Just continuing to laugh at your defences. there's nothing to defend, I'm simply addressing your posts in good faith unless you resort to ad hominem, then I simply reply in kind until you make some sort of point again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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