Canada's military, how impressive it really is.

[Dougie93]

I was deployed for Op Salon / Feather

I was issued with live ammo, and given orders to use it as necessary

we were activated as sentries guarding CF installations

even when we were coming onto base ourselves

there were armed guards coming on to our own military buses to search them

they said it was in case we were Mohawks trying to infiltrate the base

Edited April 16, 2022 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

what actually happened, is that I was a lone armed sentry at a distant post, with a Commissionaire

then all of a sudden, a mob of like one hundred angry Mohawks showed up at my post

they started pulling the colours down, like they were getting ready to trash the place

so I decided to leave my weapon behind, and just go out there and talk to them

I fell back on the UN Peacekeeping conops, negotiate with the Co-Belligerents, avoid an escalation

that worked out for me, once I talked to the leaders of the angry mob, I established a rapport

then I negotiated a truce, in classic Canadian fashion

Edited April 16, 2022 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

27 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Most instances of Aid to civil power does not include the use of force, how ever aid to civil power can include deadly force, such as FLQ crises, OKA, or protection of major events like security of the Olympic games in BC, where Air defense units, Infantry and Armor units. there may be restrictions to the use of deadly force, we were not allow to bring any Machine guns or 25 mm ammo. Now OKA every weapon system we had was free game... 

We never had powers of arrest, a person could be taken down and held , but police officers had to make the actual arrest, that was the same for OKA,BC, Ice storm, Winnipeg floods... which seen police officers inserted in with military patrols. I'm not sure how the FLQ crises went or what powers they had. 

History has also shown examples of military using deadly force on civilians but the laws have since changed.

this "ex flyer" is a coward

he's calling me out, but won't even say who he is

let him keep talking, let him keep digging

[Dougie93]

keep shooting your mouth off as an anonymous avatar "ex flyer"

if you want to mess with us ?

you are want to make an enemy of us ?

then there's no saving you from yourself

molon labe

Edited April 16, 2022 by Dougie93

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

this "ex flyer" is a coward

he's calling me out, but won't even say who he is

let him keep talking, let him keep digging

I have never once "called you out".

You insist on name calling, by all means, satisfy your Christian self.

I know who and what I am and what I did. As I said, I tried to be civil and will remain so.

Edited April 15, 2022 by ExFlyer

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I have never once "called you out".

I know who and what I am and what I did. As I said, I tried to be civil and will remain so.

you just said you didn't want to remain civil with me

sow the wind, reap the whirlwind, you filthy disgusting coward

[ExFlyer]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

you just said you didn't want to remain civil with me

sow the wind, reap the whirlwind, you filthy disgusting coward

You misread again.

Name calling again too.

[Dougie93]

Just now, ExFlyer said:

You misread again.

Name calling again too.

I am calling you out as a coward

pulling rank here, lording your service over the civilians here, as an anonymous avatar

go ahead and say who you are now, I dare you

[Dougie93]

you wanna mess around ?

Defame people here as a sock puppet troll ?

pulling your "i am a CWO" authoritarianism as an anonymous avatar ?

nobody has your back at DND

you are not supported to do this by the chain of command

you are on your own, against the civilians in the hood now

keep messing with us like this, see what happens

Edited April 16, 2022 by Dougie93

[ExFlyer]

32 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

you wanna fuck around ?

pulling your "i am a CWO" shit as an anonymous avatar ?

nobody has your back at DND

you are not supported to do this by the chain of command

you are on your own, against the civilians in the hood

try to mess with us, see what happens

 

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

 

camon, sock puppet troll

keep digging

[Dougie93]

no quarter, no mercy for sock puppet trolls defaming us from the shield of anonymity

that's not civility

 defamation;  false statements of fact to harm someones reputation

that's called personal injury, that's a civil offence under the law

we already know a lot about you

we will find you, we will doxx you

this shit will come to your door, you're not within your rights to defame people with impunity

persons who are defamed are within their rights to pursue & expose those who injure their reputations

so keep digging

Edited April 16, 2022 by Dougie93

[Charles Anthony]

Guys, 

Tone down the rhetoric.  Follow the forum rules and guidelines.  Stop making the discussions personal. 

[Dougie93]

no offence to the forum intended

but this anonymous avatar is invoking themselves as a "Canadian Forces Chief Warrant Officer"

then from that position of claimed authority

is publishing false accusations of veterans "hating" the Canadian military ?

that's defamatory, and if someone is a CF CWO doing that, they should be exposed for that ignominious conduct

[Charles Anthony]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

no offence to the forum intended

You are going to have to prove it. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

that's defamatory, and if someone is a CF CWO doing that, they should be exposed for that ignominious conduct

I do not care. 

If you want to use this forum as an open source court of public opinion, please feel free to do so to your heart's content but follow the forum rules and guidelines.  Keep your discussions polite. 

Please do not take my expression as a sarcastic dismissal.  I mean this most seriously.  

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, Charles Anthony said:

You are going to have to prove it. 

I do not care. 

If you want to use this forum as an open source court of public opinion, please feel free to do so to your heart's content but follow the forum rules and guidelines.  Keep your discussions polite. 

Please do not take my expression as a sarcastic dismissal.  I mean this most seriously.  

I respect your moderation

you said tone the rhetoric down, so I toned it down

I was merely pointing out that defaming the members here as a sock puppet is cowardly

I said it as a politely as I could

[Dougie93]

8 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

You misread again.

Name calling again too.

I was in this thread recollecting the things I found most impressive about the Canadian military

then you came into the thread calling me an "extremist", "vigilante" and now "military hater"

I'm not misreading you

you've already stated that  the reason you are launching into these attacks against me

is because you say my political views "offend" you

[Dougie93]

11 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

I am sorry I tried to be civil with you.

Aid to Civil Power in no way means orders to shoot and kill Canadians. It means "Aid to (or of) the Civil Power, the calling out of military troops by the civil authorities to help maintain or restore public order"   Meaning the military has authority of a constable in the police force.

that in no way means that the military could not shoot Canadians while carrying out those duties

again, Operation Salon 1990, there was very much a threat of Canadian protestors being shot by the military

 

[Dougie93]

11 hours ago, Army Guy said:

History has also shown examples of military using deadly force on civilians but the laws have since changed.

except the government is not following its own laws anymore

there was no emergency in Ottawa, yet martial law was invoked falsely

then said military force was used against peaceful protestors in contravention of their fundamental rights

a government which can get away with that, can get away with anything

I can't blame Canadians for fearing being shot by the military

I'd say that it is a realistic fear considering the utter lawlessness of the governments in this country now

[Dougie93]

9 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

I have never once "called you out".

 

oh yes you did, this is what you said

"Dougie93 for a guy that says he hates the Military. . ."

I have never said that I hate the military, quite the opposite

I was in this thread, talking about the things that were impressive in the military, which is the topic of the thread

then suddenly you come into the thread, and start defaming me with false claims meant to harm my reputation

this is you operating as a sock puppet troll, who none the less claims to be a "Chief Warrant Officer" from NDHQ

[Dougie93]

9 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

You insist on name calling, by all means, satisfy your Christian self.

just because I'm a Christian;  doesn't mean that I have to stand for being defamed by an anonymous troll

without pointing out the filthy disgusting cowardice of said defamation

particularly when the sock puppet troll making these false statements to harm my reputation

is himself claiming to be of senior military rank from NDHQ itself

[Dougie93]

9 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

 I tried to be civil and will remain so.

again, you in no way tried to be civil

let's review

first you said that I am an "extremist American vigilante"

you called me this for expressing my political views against Confederation

are the Bloc Quebecois "extremist American vigilantes" ?

there is an official political party in the Canadian Parliament, which exists to kill the Confederation

so how am I "extreme" or a criminal, for simply agreeing with MPs from HM Loyal Opposition ?

bear in mind, you have already admitted that this is the reason you are defaming me over & over

[Charles Anthony]

5 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

I said it as a politely as I could

Thank you. 

[Dougie93]

 

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Canada's military falls to 'woke' ideology, drag bingo nights, preferred pronouns for all, critical race theory: source

Documents from Canada's Department of National Defense and Canadian Armed Forces paint a picture of a military now drenched in critical race theory, genderqueer ideology, and equity.

https://thepostmillennial.com/canadas-military-falls-to-woke-ideology-drag-bingo-nights-preferred-pronouns-for-all-critical-race-theory-source

 

wow, just when you think things couldn't get any crazier at DND, they double down on lunacy

the Liberals have already dismantled the military as an effective fighting force

now they are just bouncing the rubble by turning it into an international laughing stock

I simply cannot support a country which knowingly & actively does this much egregious harm to its own interests

[Dougie93]

I only knew one openly gay service member in the CF back in the 90's

he was a finance clerk in Toronto

he was a good guy, he did his job, nobody had any problems with him

I was in the JR's Mess, so if there had been any anti-gay sentiment in the ranks, I would have known

so I can say that there wasn't any, the guy was popular, everybody liked him, nobody cared that he was gay