Michael Hardner Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 10 hours ago, cougar said: I read on CBC today in the body of their new propaganda article that the "vaccine helps fight the spread of the virus" The hypocrisy blows me away. That's standard public health communication right there. And how is CBC hypocritical for reporting it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 15 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: All the non-vaccinated federal civil servants that wanted to keep their jobs? Did they have a choice to not get the vaccination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 15 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: "Force" is ANY time you can't do whatever you want in society by law. So laws against assault are “force”? Do you think your definition is so vague and so far out of the norm that the term “force” has now become utterly meaningless? “The government is not allowing me to beat my children…. This is force and against my will” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 16 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: the vast majority of Canadians agree with the NDP and the Greens they just agree with the Liberals more Canadians consider moderates to be far right white supremacist insurrectionists so that party would have as much chance to win as the PPC and would be tarred with the same demonizations compromising with the far left just means you give them some of what they want and they give you nothing you want then they'll ask for more after you give them what they want and each time you cave, that just encourages them to keep asking while giving nothing in return it's a garbage plan In the last 2 elections more Canadians voted for the CPC than the Liberals. Or the NDP and Greens combined. The NDP and Greens are losers that most Canadians think are filled with naive idealistic nutbars. Canadians don't like nutbar idealogues like the Liberals, CPC, NDP, and Greens. Quebec likes french/Quebec politicians, so Trudeau wins despite losing the popular vote to the CPC. And people don't even like the CPC, they just dislike Trudeau even more. Your plan to keep the CPC being a bunch of conservative nutters is a loser plan. Most conservatives and leftists are morons and nutters and irrational ideologues. Most Canadians are reasonable and don't want closet racist bible-thumping gay-haters running this country, nor do they want the virtue signaling beta cuck wusses we have now. Guys like Trudeau and Scheer are out of their minds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Most conservatives and leftists are morons and nutters and irrational ideologues. Most Canadians are reasonable and don't want closet racist bible-thumping gay-haters running this country, nor do they want the virtue signaling beta cuck wusses we have now. The 'virtue signalling' is a big nothing, that amounts to little more than superficial adherence to some kind of ethic - superficial because Trudeau himself blew off Reconciliation Day to go to the beach. Mostly it triggers the high-volume rageaholics who get so triggered that they use the term 'cuck' to get back at 'the left'. Quite hilarious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Quite hilarious... Is it? I find it lazy and boring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 38 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: In the last 2 elections more Canadians voted for the CPC than the Liberals. Or the NDP and Greens combined. Does it matter? Do we count votes, or seats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 No sitting government of Canada is allowed to violate the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 55 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: No sitting government of Canada is allowed to violate the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Who enforces that? Truckers? Or courts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: Who enforces that? Truckers? Or courts? Good question. There are rare moments in history when the current ethos is untenable. The centre cannot hold. This is very ancient spiritual stuff. William Blake wrote about this, the human/spiritual realm verses the dark satanic mills. Today it’s the human world versus the digital world. St. Augustine’s City of Man and City of God. We can live under fear of punishment or by faith in humanity. Edited February 6, 2022 by Zeitgeist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said: Good question. There are rare moments in history when the current ethos is untenable. The centre cannot hold. This is very ancient spiritual stuff. William Blake wrote about this, the human/spiritual realm verses the dark satanic mills. Today it’s the human world versus the digital world. St. Augustine’s Ciry of Man and City of God. We can live under fear of punishment or by faith in humanity. Blake fan? Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: The 'virtue signalling' is a big nothing, that amounts to little more than superficial adherence to some kind of ethic - superficial because Trudeau himself blew off Reconciliation Day to go to the beach. Mostly it triggers the high-volume rageaholics who get so triggered that they use the term 'cuck' to get back at 'the left'. Quite hilarious... Hey don't get mad at me, i'm just reporting the news. It's not my fault the left is filled with submissive self-hating betas who are too "nice" to discipline their pets and children because they're afraid of offending anyone or making anyone besides the people they hate "feel bad" instead of standing up for what's right or call a spade a spade. If we want to see what a society ruled by submissive self-hating betas looks like we can just look at California, Oregon, and Washington state. Not much better than a society run by barely literate bible-thumping anti-science racist gay-haters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 4 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Does it matter? Do we count votes, or seats? It only matters when the Democrats win the popular vote and lose the election and then they complain about the Electoral College for the next 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: It only matters when the Democrats win the popular vote and lose the election and then they complain about the Electoral College for the next 4 years. Are you under the impression that’s what I think? Or are you making up a political bogeyman to avoid the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said: There are rare moments in history when the current ethos is untenable. You and a small band of rebels get to decide when democracy is over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: You and a small band of rebels get to decide when democracy is over? Au contraire, the protesters are safeguarding your Charter rights, otherwise your opinions and the views of the people can be ignored in the name of public safety during a crisis. Basically the crisis is the suspension of rights. Edited February 6, 2022 by Zeitgeist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Au contraire, the protesters are safeguarding your Charter rights, otherwise your opinions and the views of the people can be ignored in the name of public safety during a crisis. Basically the crisis is the suspension of rights. A small group of unvaccinated truck drivers and Confederate flag waving wannabe revolutionaries decides on what my Charter Rights are? Where do they get their authority to do this? Edited February 6, 2022 by TreeBeard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: A small group of unvaccinated truck drivers and Confederate flag waving wannabe revolutionaries decides on what my Charter Rights are? Where do they get their authority to do this? Ha ha, you have no clue who the protesters are. A small band of unvaccinated? I’m triple vaccinated. There were signs saying, “I’m fully vaccinated now back off.” Enough with the attempt to micromanage people’s lives like some kind of sicko Frankenstein dissecting people like they’re soul-less objects. People have an inner light, a yearning for freedom that your need for impossible safety purity can’t squelch. Charter freedoms over health puritanism. Edited February 6, 2022 by Zeitgeist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Ha ha, you have no clue who the protesters are. A small band of unvaccinated? I’m triple vaccinated. There were signs saying, “I’m fully vaccinated now back off.” Enough with the attempt to micromanage people’s lives like some kind of sicko Frankenstein dissecting people like they’re soul-less objects. People have an inner light, a yearning for freedom that your need for impossible safety purity can’t squelch. Charter freedoms over health puritanism. A small group of *whatever they are* gets to decide how the remainder’s Charter Rights are managed? Again, where do they get their authority? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: A small group of *whatever they are* gets to decide how the remainder’s Charter Rights are managed? Again, where do they get their authority? Where does government get its authority? From the will of most Canadians. Canadians chose a free country with constitutional protections. Winning an election doesn’t give a government the right to ignore those protections. I’m not going to argue with someone who wants government to oppress people. You have a lot to learn. Governments must respect the Charter. Edited February 6, 2022 by Zeitgeist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Where does government get its authority? From the will of most Canadians. Canadians chose a free country with constitutional protections. Winning an election doesn’t give a government the right to ignore those protections. I’m not going to argue with someone who wants government to oppress people. You have a lot to learn. Governments must respect the Charter. A small group of self-appointed Charter Enforcers gets to determine what they are? You still haven’t answered where they get their authority. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: Blake fan? Cool. Yeats too. The gyres. Cycles of history. Spengler. Old Testament stories of the Israelites bouncing between the desert and the promised land. The eternal story of the uprising of humanity from the wilderness, Campbell’s Hero with a Thousand Faces. Frye’s Great Code. Dante’s Divine Comedy. Contrapasso. It’s the story of people trying to remove their chains, like right now under mandates and restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 4 hours ago, TreeBeard said: A small group of *whatever they are* gets to decide how the remainder’s Charter Rights are managed? Again, where do they get their authority? rights are not decided on by the mere whims of a majority 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin Chiu Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 Candice Bergen's non-fluency in French is gonna bring some costs to the CPC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Kelvin Chiu said: Candice Bergen's non-fluency in French is gonna bring some costs to the CPC. She’s an interim leader. Not speaking French or English very well is okay, as long as you can use one of the official languages in Parliament. People can learn languages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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