Trucker's Convoy

[West]

Just now, blackbird said:

Government cannot take away freedom of religion.  It is a sacred God-given right.  That is why they meet underground.

So is conscience. Which is why it's just to oppose segregation laws such as the vaccine passport

[CITIZEN_2015]

Just now, blackbird said:

Government cannot take away freedom of religion.  It is a sacred God-given right.  That is why they meet underground.

Government cannot force religion either as they do so in some countries around the globe especially in middle east in order to rob people blind.

[West]

1 minute ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

A coup does not have to involve tanks and massacre but any attempt to topple a democratically elected government other than through election and ballet boxes is attempted coup. 

So any protest you disagree with is now a coup to you people

[Yzermandius19]

4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

A coup does not have to involve tanks and massacre but any attempt to topple a democratically elected government other than through election and ballet boxes is attempted coup. 

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

 

Edited February 10, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[blackbird]

Just now, West said:

So is conscience. Which is why it's just to oppose segregation laws such as the vaccine passport

There is no right break the laws to oppose health restrictions that are there to protect the populations.

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

There is no right break the laws to oppose health restrictions that are there to protect the populations.

when those laws take away God given rights

there absolutely is

[blackbird]

2 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Government cannot force religion either as they do so in some countries around the globe especially in middle east in order to rob people blind.

Governments do not force people to follow the Bible or the God of the Bible.  They do force people to follow Islamic laws in some countries.

[blackbird]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

when those laws take away God given rights

there absolutely is

Again Satan (the Devil) told you that?  Who determines what is a God given right in any circumstance?

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Again Satan (the Devil) told you that?  Who determines what is a God given right in any circumstance?

freedom of religion is being restricted

and you support it when Canada does it

if they claim it's for health and safety

Edited February 10, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[blackbird]

5 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

 

That is true (American Constitution, not Canadian).  The government was elected in Canada by the people and the majority support the government health restrictions and mandates.  That is the democratic decision of the government and is supported by the people who elected them.  That fits in with the American Constitution you quoted.

[DogOnPorch]

[West]

5 minutes ago, blackbird said:

There is no right break the laws to oppose health restrictions that are there to protect the populations.

Some mandates are a violation of human rights and should not be tolerated or followed just like china's ban on Christian church services

[blackbird]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

freedom of religion is being restricted

and you support it when Canada does it

if they claim it's for health and safety

Yes, I supported the health restriction that meant churches could not hold services.  I oppose breaking those restrictions which a few churches did.  They were wrong.

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, blackbird said:

That is true (American Constitution, not Canadian).  The government was elected in Canada by the people and the majority support the government health restrictions and mandates.  That is the democratic decision of the government and is supported by the people who elected them.  That fits in with the American Constitution you quoted.

no it doesn't

democratically supported right stripping is what lead to American revolution in the first place

Canada is doing that now

it is the right of the people

to alter or abolish it

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

Yes, I supported the health restriction that meant churches could not hold services.  I oppose breaking those restrictions which a few churches did.  They were wrong.

no

you were wrong

rights are above your stupid laws

[blackbird]

18 minutes ago, West said:

Do you believe the underground church in China is also godless?

Was Moses sinning when he went to Pharoah and demanded that he honor the rights of the Israelites under slavery?

NO.

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, blackbird said:

NO.

but when Canada does this shit

then you support it

such a hypocrite with no principles

[CITIZEN_2015]

7 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Governments do not force people to follow the Bible or the God of the Bible.  They do force people to follow Islamic laws in some countries.

Well they used to do it in Christian countries too and may be they still do (in Cyprus they had a Bishop as head of state till 70's for example). They still enforce the laws based on bible in some countries like a total ban on abortion or divorce.

Yes they do force people to follow Islamic laws in some countries including wearing the hated hijab which is a symbol of oppression of women and that is totally unacceptable in 21st century.

[Accountability Now]

16 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The leaders of the so-called freedom convoy advocate overthrowing the democratically-elected government and system.  That is why they should be arrested and imprisoned.  Sedition.

Removal of mandates is their primary goal. If it results in Trudeau being removed from power would just be icing on the cake. 
 

I guarantee you that if they removed the mandates and left Trudeau in power, these truckers would all gladly go home

[West]

6 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Yes, I supported the health restriction that meant churches could not hold services.  I oppose breaking those restrictions which a few churches did.  They were wrong.

I oppose churches who prevent people from hearing about God because of man made mandates like masks or vaccine passports. 

[CITIZEN_2015]

16 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

 

The second quote is not mine. Stop distorting like I made contradictory comments!!.

[blackbird]

2 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Well they used to do it in Christian countries too and may be they still do (in Cyprus they had a Bishop as head of state till 70's for example). They still enforce the laws based on bible in some countries like a total ban on abortion or divorce.

Yes they do force people to follow Islamic laws in some countries including wearing the hated hijab which is a symbol of oppression of women and that is totally unacceptable in 21st century.

That is drifting away from this thread.  I don't support the Roman church as they are not biblical.  They ruled the western world for something like a thousand years, but that is a different topic.

[CITIZEN_2015]

18 minutes ago, West said:

So any protest you disagree with is now a coup to you people

I have heard it many times by various protesters they want to change government. It is not just protest against mandates.

[blackbird]

2 minutes ago, West said:

I oppose churches who prevent people from hearing about God because of man made mandates like masks or vaccine passports. 

The only reason you are pretending to defend hearing about God is because you oppose health restrictions and mandates.  Otherwise you don't believe in the Bible.

[Boges]

5 minutes ago, Accountability Now said:

I guarantee you that if they removed the mandates and left Trudeau in power, these truckers would all gladly go home

Short of a military coupe, how exactly would that be accomplished? He just won an election four months ago.