CITIZEN_2015 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) A minority Liberal government was elected in 2019 and Canadians have been in hell ever since then. With pandemic starting soon after followed by lockdowns, people losing their jobs and businesses and closures and housing prices through the roof, ballooning Federal budget deficit of close to 500 billion and then health crises as ICUs were filled up by Covid patients and economic crises and then rapidly rising inflation followed by a fourth wave at the end and suddenly the Liberal leader calling an election with all of above asking to re-elect them with a majority!!!!!, say what? So why do you think Canadians re-elected a Liberal government? I think mainly because the country (the whole world) was in a pandemic and economic crisis and a change of government usually in a crisis is not wise. People are afraid to change governing authorities in a crisis. Second and equally important Trudeau's government did a great job in securing enough vaccines and early for every Canadian who wishes to be vaccinated (better than any other foreign government) so a good majority of eligible voters (about 80%) who took advantage of vaccines were pleased with Liberal government's records on vaccines not to mention significant reductions in new hospitalization and death that followed. Then Liberals promised many extra billions on Health care and unlike Conservatives it was immediate help as the system tries to recover from the shock of pandemic. Many Canadians who took advantage of cerb were grateful to Liberal program at the time of need. Last but not least the manner in which the anti-Trudeau crowd behaved did not help his opponents at all. Edited September 21, 2021 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCanada90 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 mostly cause overall he didn't handle the pandemic terribly. gave people money when needed.. vaccines started slow but going decent now.. the ppc also helped drain some of the con vote which i am happy about . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 It should be remembered that Trudeau initially tried to get a vaccine deal with...China. Yes that China, the country that unleashed Covid on the world and has yet to pay any price. The massive giveaway of "free" money most certainly helped him as most of his fan base fall for his lines and have little to no understanding about where governments actually get their money. Trudeau: "WE TOOK ON DEBT SO CANADIANS DIDN'T HAVE TO" - ProudToBeCanadian You should realize by now that Justin Trudeau does not have to deliver on any of his promises. History proves that all he needs to do is preen for the cameras and keep breaking celebrity records for selfies. The bar has never been set lower in this country for a politician. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCanada90 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, ironstone said: It should be remembered that Trudeau initially tried to get a vaccine deal with...China. Yes that China, the country that unleashed Covid on the world and has yet to pay any price. The massive giveaway of "free" money most certainly helped him as most of his fan base fall for his lines and have little to no understanding about where governments actually get their money. Trudeau: "WE TOOK ON DEBT SO CANADIANS DIDN'T HAVE TO" - ProudToBeCanadian You should realize by now that Justin Trudeau does not have to deliver on any of his promises. History proves that all he needs to do is preen for the cameras and keep breaking celebrity records for selfies. The bar has never been set lower in this country for a politician. it was much lower when the people elected harper for almost 10 years.. trudeau ain't perfect but is a saint compared to that heartless man who only cared about the west Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, EastCanada90 said: it was much lower when the people elected harper for almost 10 years.. trudeau ain't perfect but is a saint compared to that heartless man who only cared about the west Can you be specific and name the things that heartless Harper did during that time that you didn't like? And your attitude falls squarely into the typical leftist mindset in that you think Canada only revolves around the east while ignoring the contributions of the west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 Because 600 M entirely unnecessary election, crumbling healthcare system, debt, housing crisis etc wasn't enough to wake the populace from bicentennial slumber? One has to wonder now if anything would? This was an expensive but necessary exam. Now we know something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCanada90 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ironstone said: Can you be specific and name the things that heartless Harper did during that time that you didn't like? And your attitude falls squarely into the typical leftist mindset in that you think Canada only revolves around the east while ignoring the contributions of the west. lets see wanting more pipelines.. closing vets offices calling the east coast a culture of defeatism so basically lazy.. OH and lets not forget the coward trying to raise old age to 67 and announcing it in another country first lol... plenty of reasons not to like the man.. its why he went 0 for 32 in 2015. and yea your right i dont like the west (alberta and sask to be specific ) nor do i respect them tbh they always crying for something. only good thing is kenney looks like he will be gone and hopefully ndp gets back power in AB. Edited September 21, 2021 by EastCanada90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 Without the massive spending to support people and businesses during the pandemic, we would be in an economic wasteland. China did not "unleash" covid 19, it was where the virus first infected humans. China didn't have much say in the matter. People seem to forget Prime Minister Harper inherited a healthy surplus from the Liberals and took us into massive deficit with nothing to show for it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ironstone said: Can you be specific and name the things that heartless Harper did during that time that you didn't like? Lack of an effective climate change policy, deficits with nothing to show for it. Trudeau's climate action was no better. Edited September 21, 2021 by Queenmandy85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 I hear a lot of people whining that this election was unnecessary. That is incorrect. We all heard a lot of voters who were unhappy with Prime Minister Trudeau. By calling this election, we had the opportunity to replace him. This was their big chance. If you didn't like the government, you wanted this election. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 41 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: Lack of an effective climate change policy, deficits with nothing to show for it. Trudeau's climate action was no better. Any thoughts as to the deficits under Trudeau? Massively larger deficits and debt actually. Have emissions dropped under Trudeau? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 23 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: If you didn't like the government, you wanted this election. What if we wanted not show elections but a real choice? But yes sure that would have to be another, different us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, ironstone said: Any thoughts as to the deficits under Trudeau? Massively larger deficits and debt actually. Have emissions dropped under Trudeau? No argument there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, myata said: What if we wanted not show elections but a real choice? But yes sure that would have to be another, different us. If you don't like the choice, you always have the opportunity to put up someone you do like. Did you campaign in the last leadership races for someone you liked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: If you don't like the choice, you always have the opportunity to put up someone you do like. Did you campaign in the last leadership races for someone you liked? I didn't mean a face on a sticker campaigning but OK don't fix it that argument can only be tested with practical experience. We'll just have to defer the conclusion for another couple of decades. I wonder what Canada would look by then, post secondary tuition, healthcare, house prices municipal taxes, etc MP salary. Will it be further away from Mexico's or much closer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 Otoole did well. From a unknown and 15 pts back to keeping it a minority. The party needs to get back to centre which he tried to do. But you don't change a party in 36 days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, myata said: I didn't mean a face on a sticker campaigning Have you never participated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: Without the massive spending to support people and businesses during the pandemic, we would be in an economic wasteland. China did not "unleash" covid 19, it was where the virus first infected humans. China didn't have much say in the matter. People seem to forget Prime Minister Harper inherited a healthy surplus from the Liberals and took us into massive deficit with nothing to show for it. We don't know to this day whether it came from one of those disease breeding wet markets or the disease breeding Wuhan lab. China was certainly not open and transparent with the rest of the world while this thing was rapidly spreading but that's par for the course for a Communist country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: Without the massive spending to support people and businesses during the pandemic, we would be in an economic wasteland. China did not "unleash" covid 19, it was where the virus first infected humans. China didn't have much say in the matter. People seem to forget Prime Minister Harper inherited a healthy surplus from the Liberals and took us into massive deficit with nothing to show for it. Trudeau has doubled the debt in 18 months and is printing 2 billion a week. There will be a reckoning. He added over 100 billion to the debt before COVID. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, Aristides said: Trudeau has doubled the debt in 18 months and is printing 2 billion a week. There will be a reckoning. He added over 100 billion to the debt He had no choice. Nobody could have known about the pandemic. It hit the whole world real hard and all major industrial countries borrowed heavily many hundreds of billions so that their badly hit nations could survive the storm. . He had to support Canadians in a very bad time. Any other party in power would have done the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCanada90 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 would of perferred a NDP win but trudeau winning is good for us atlantic canadians also.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faramir Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 15 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: A minority Liberal government was elected in 2019 and Canadians have been in hell ever since then. With pandemic starting soon after followed by lockdowns, people losing their jobs and businesses and closures and housing prices through the roof, ballooning Federal budget deficit of close to 500 billion and then health crises as ICUs were filled up by Covid patients and economic crises and then rapidly rising inflation followed by a fourth wave at the end and suddenly the Liberal leader calling an election with all of above asking to re-elect them with a majority!!!!!, say what? So why do you think Canadians re-elected a Liberal government? I think mainly because the country (the whole world) was in a pandemic and economic crisis and a change of government usually in a crisis is not wise. People are afraid to change governing authorities in a crisis. Second and equally important Trudeau's government did a great job in securing enough vaccines and early for every Canadian who wishes to be vaccinated (better than any other foreign government) so a good majority of eligible voters (about 80%) who took advantage of vaccines were pleased with Liberal government's records on vaccines not to mention significant reductions in new hospitalization and death that followed. Then Liberals promised many extra billions on Health care and unlike Conservatives it was immediate help as the system tries to recover from the shock of pandemic. Many Canadians who took advantage of cerb were grateful to Liberal program at the time of need. Last but not least the manner in which the anti-Trudeau crowd behaved did not help his opponents at all. Well I despise Trudeau but I think the fact really is 2 in 3 Canadians are looney left wingers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faramir Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 5 hours ago, EastCanada90 said: lets see wanting more pipelines.. closing vets offices calling the east coast a culture of defeatism so basically lazy.. OH and lets not forget the coward trying to raise old age to 67 and announcing it in another country first lol... plenty of reasons not to like the man.. its why he went 0 for 32 in 2015. and yea your right i dont like the west (alberta and sask to be specific ) nor do i respect them tbh they always crying for something. only good thing is kenney looks like he will be gone and hopefully ndp gets back power in AB. The feeling is mutual dirt bag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCanada90 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, Faramir said: The feeling is mutual dirt bag lol must be a AB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faramir Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: Without the massive spending to support people and businesses during the pandemic, we would be in an economic wasteland. China did not "unleash" covid 19, it was where the virus first infected humans. China didn't have much say in the matter. People seem to forget Prime Minister Harper inherited a healthy surplus from the Liberals and took us into massive deficit with nothing to show for it. You will justify anything. 300 billion in debt was NOT neccessary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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