Aristides Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: It's America's choice either way...hope and change was the Obama con job that Canadians couldn't get enough of. Yes, it's Americas choice. Everyone has choices and others are seeing America much differently. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: Yes, it's Americas choice. Everyone has choices and others are seeing America much differently. They should have seen America differently a long time ago. Trump taught Canada and other "allies" a valuable lesson. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Infidel Dog Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, Aristides said: Was the destruction of the Republican party a plus as well? Hard to say. All the hijackers and infiltrators haven't been voted out of it yet. Quote
Argus Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 15 hours ago, bcsapper said: You think they had a hand in the Ugandan election? Does Bobi know? Those Democrats are so shrewd and capable! Why, Trump knew they'd be cheating six months ago, and yet he and the entire Untied States government he ran couldn't stop it or even find any credible evidence afterward! Nor could the Republican states it took place in! Boy, those Democrats clearly deserve to be in charge. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Infidel Dog said: Hard to say. All the hijackers and infiltrators haven't been voted out of it yet. Agreed....the Democratic Party suffered mightily with Obama/Biden...lost 1,000 federal and state seats...DNC went broke. Did anybody here ask if it was worth it ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Approval plunging below 30% as Trumpers start to wake up. Will any of them on here have the character to admit publicly that they were duped? You are living in a dream world. Trumpers are most assuredly NOT waking up. Trumpers will support him no matter what he does. If Trump showed up on live TV to rape a six year old, sacrifice her to Satan, cut her heart out and eat it, the Trumpers would applaud like the enthusiastic seals they are. Trump retains an 87% approval rate among Republicans, even AFTER what happened at the Capitol. And his approval rate among his most ardent Trump supporters is ten points higher than that. I think people have to come to terms with the fact that if Trump had actually gotten the military to support him and proclaimed himself president the great majority of Republicans would have gone along with him. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/poll-trump-approval-remains-stable-republicans-unmoved-after-capitol-violence-n1254457?utm_source=ground.news&utm_medium=referral Edited January 17, 2021 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
sharkman Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. From how they describe 'dear leader'. 2. Yes, and I was optimistic on how this would go from the outset. 3. I suspect your expectations of him don't exactly match many of his supporters, especially the true 'deplorables' and Trump cult koolaid drinkers. The left has been duped since at least 2008 and you don't seem concerned about it. Or are you a believer that the world will be destroyed in 8 years unless the Democrat extremists can save the environment? Quote
Argus Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: 1. The average Trump voter was not a "dear leader" devotee...that is a much smaller demographic that existed long before Trump's great adventure into politics. Trump just gave a bigger voice to that demographic. 2. It went as expected, even for the Trump haters. Now its back to the same old familiar suck. 3. My only expectations of Trump (who I didn't vote for in 2016) were to continue the chaotic disruptions, and he delivered very well. First and foremost he prevented Hillary Clinton from becoming POTUS...a plus in my book. I suspect that if you guys had the choice of becoming a subservient colony ruled by Russia, with Russian governors installed in all 50 states and the constitution torn up - and Hillary Clinton as President, most of you would joyfully choose Putin. Your hatred for her is irrational and nonsensical. There isn't a thing she's ever done that Trump hasn't done worse, usually FAR worse. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Argus said: I suspect that if you guys had the choice of becoming a subservient colony ruled by Russia, with Russian governors installed in all 50 states and the constitution torn up - and Hillary Clinton as President, most of you would joyfully choose Putin. Your hatred for her is irrational and nonsensical. There isn't a thing she's ever done that Trump hasn't done worse, usually FAR worse. Trump never held elected or appointed office before the Clintons....so she paid the price for past performance. Canada is already a vassal state, so how bad would it be ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump never held elected or appointed office before the Clintons....so she paid the price for past performance. Canada is already a vassal state, so how bad would it be ? Her past performance as what? Secretary of State's do what Presidents tell them. And she was no worse a senator than loons like Cruz. Canada isn't a vassal state. The US doesn't get to order executions of anyone who says anything against them here the way Putin would there. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Argus said: Her past performance as what? Secretary of State's do what Presidents tell them. And she was no worse a senator than loons like Cruz. Many American voters felt differently, including the Bernie Bro's primary season. Even her husband sought better options. Quote Canada isn't a vassal state. The US doesn't get to order executions of anyone who says anything against them here the way Putin would there. Canada is a vassal state....with a very weak leader. Ms. Meng is still under house arrest, right ? Edited January 17, 2021 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Many American voters felt differently, including the Bernie Bro's primary season. Even her husband sought better options. I confronted a lot of them at the time online and every time I asked for actual information and evidence of what she'd done to make you all hate her so they dried up. No specifics. No evidence. The Republicans had about a thousand hours of hearings trying to pin something on her and failed. Quote Canada is a vassal state....with a very weak leader. Given the state of your leadership you really shouldn't talk. Americans were given the choice of a crude, cowardly bully with a room temperature IQ or a cliche'd old line politician well-past his best-before date. Edited January 17, 2021 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 34 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: They should have seen America differently a long time ago. Trump taught Canada and other "allies" a valuable lesson. We're looking forward to regaining our NATO/NORAD deadbeat status, thank-you very much. 2 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 Just now, Argus said: I confronted a lot of them at the time online and every time I asked for actual information and evidence of what she'd done to make you all hate her so they dried up. No specifics. No evidence. The Republicans had about a thousand hours of hearings trying to pin something on her and failed. You "confronted" them ? So what...the reasons are many...obvious even from Canada (watching so much American media. She didn't help herself with the "deplorables" gaffe. Quote Given the state of your leadership you really shouldn't talk. Americans were given the of a crude, cowardly bully with a room temperature IQ or a cliche'd old line politician well-past his best-before date. I would still take Trump over weak-ass Trudeau any day. Trump mattered more than Trudeau. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Aristides Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 42 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: They should have seen America differently a long time ago. Trump taught Canada and other "allies" a valuable lesson. He did but not to America’s benefit. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Aristides said: He did but not to America’s benefit. That's the idea....stop worrying so much about America's benefit and worry more about Canada's. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Aristides Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: That's the idea....stop worrying so much about America's benefit and worry more about Canada's. That’s what Trump taught them, not to worry about America’s benefit. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: That’s what Trump taught them, not to worry about America’s benefit. Good....stop being a vassal state. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 The USSF is a reality...Trump will get the credit. NASA/Elon/Military now all have a common denominator. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Aristides Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Good....stop being a vassal state. Countries now look for ways to work around the US rather than with it. Merkel basically took over as the voice of the free world but she is retiring. Will the Germans manage to come up with someone of her caliber or will it be Macron? It won’t be BoJo the clown. Biden has a lot of bridges to rebuild. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 Just now, Aristides said: Countries now look for ways to work around the US rather than with it. Merkel basically took over as the voice of the free world but she is retiring. Will the Germans manage to come up with someone of her caliber or will it be Macron? It won’t be BoJo the clown. Biden has a lot of bridges to rebuild. Won't be Biden either...it started long before Trump with George W. Bush (Iraq) and Obama (Ukraine/Syria). The EU has a larger population than the U.S. and should not be so dependent on the American DoD. Canada is just a feeble vassal state and has little choice. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Aristides Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Won't be Biden either...it started long before Trump with George W. Bush (Iraq) and Obama (Ukraine/Syria). The EU has a larger population than the U.S. and should not be so dependent on the American DoD. Canada is just a feeble vassal state and has little choice. It isn’t just about defence. Quote
-TSS- Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 I was really surprised that Giuliani who was a steadfast mayor of NYC jumped into the bandwagon of this election fraud-thing even though there was a snowball's chance in hell of that adventure to ever succeed. Now he is going to be seen as a clown for the rest of his life unlike the RINOs who distanced themselves from Trump ever since the election. Quote
Aristides Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, -TSS- said: I was really surprised that Giuliani who was a steadfast mayor of NYC jumped into the bandwagon of this election fraud-thing even though there was a snowball's chance in hell of that adventure to ever succeed. Now he is going to be seen as a clown for the rest of his life unlike the RINOs who distanced themselves from Trump ever since the election. Mystery to me as well. Quote
Argus Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, -TSS- said: I was really surprised that Giuliani who was a steadfast mayor of NYC jumped into the bandwagon of this election fraud-thing even though there was a snowball's chance in hell of that adventure to ever succeed. Now he is going to be seen as a clown for the rest of his life unlike the RINOs who distanced themselves from Trump ever since the election. I was more surprised at how senior Republican politicians degraded themselves attaching their lips to Trump's ass and didn't pay any price. I mean, Trump bitch-slapped Cruz, told him his wife was ugly and his father was a Nazi, and Cruz spent the next four years crawling for Trump. Yet he got re-elected. Apparently being spineless is considered a positive character trait for Republicans. Just ask Lyndsey Graham. All the names he called Trump, putting him down as the lowest, most miserable racist scumbag in the country before the election, only to pucker up and kiss his ass for four straight years afterward. Don't any of these people have any pride or backbone? 1 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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