Tucker Carlson Tonight, Cuomo, Cohen. Must See TV.

[WestCanMan]

I don't want to say anything about the video until after people see it. 

[Shady]

CNN truly is a propaganda network.  How they can be friends behind the scenes, and rehearse their interviews isn’t journalism.  It’s disgusting.

[BubberMiley]

Tucker's blaming Lindsey Graham for Trump's admission that he lied? Huh?

 

[Infidel Dog]

I'd have to hear the whole Tucker Carlson piece and  not just the bit cut out by the RINO, TDSers at the Lincoln Project. 

But all they seem to be upset about is Tucker saying Lindsey Graham set up the Bob Woodward interview with Trump. Unless you're saying that didn't happen I'm not sure what they're whining about.

But speaking of the ol' trick of trying to make hay out of, out-of-context, partial clips and quotes Kayleigh McEnenany addresses the lie that Trump lied about Covid. There was more to that quote in the Woodward interview too.

 

[Infidel Dog]

Here's a shorter clip of Kayleigh addressing just the clipped quote:

 

[Charles Anthony]

This thread is a poor attempt to start a discussion.  

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't want to say anything

Please do not start a thread that way.  The cartoon section is down below.  

Start a thread by expressing your thoughts and giving your reader a reason to watch your linked video.  

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Charles Anthony said:

This thread is a poor attempt to start a discussion.  

Please do not start a thread that way.  The cartoon section is down below.  

Start a thread by expressing your thoughts and giving your reader a reason to watch your linked video.  

OK CA, no problem.

[WestCanMan]

9 hours ago, BubberMiley said:

Tucker's blaming Lindsey Graham for Trump's admission that he lied? Huh?

I think you missed the whole part about CNN pretending to interview someone, while in reality that person has already been told exactly what to say by CNNers.

This is right in line with the little black lady who got a chance to "speak" at Biden's presser, only when she got to the mic she basically said "I'm not going to read the script you guys gave me" lol. 

And it's also in line with Donna Brazille spoon-feeding debate questions to Hillary before she went on the stage with Donald Trump. 

 

CNN is pure shit, and their viewers are total idiots. 

[Shady]

12 hours ago, BubberMiley said:

Tucker's blaming Lindsey Graham for Trump's admission that he lied? Huh?

 

Well he is the most honest unfiltered politician ever.

[BubberMiley]

4 hours ago, Shady said:

Well he is the most honest unfiltered politician ever.

You have a very weird idea of what honesty is. How is perpetual lying honesty? 

[WestCanMan]

Chris Cuomo tried to go off on Trump yesterday for going back to the WH early, and staging his re-emergence from covid. https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-chris-cuomo-coronavirus-trump

I guess that Cuomo forgot that when he was supposed to be in C-19 quarantine, he was out in public without a mask on and got into an altercation with a cyclist. Then he faked a re-emergence from his basement, even though most of the world already knew he was out defying the covid quarantine.

CNN is shit, their viewers are total idiots, I don't know why I should have to prove this over and over but I get a kick out of it lol.

[OftenWrong]

17 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't know why I should have to prove this over and over

Because the fight against communism/fascism/totalitarianism can never end!

[dialamah]

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

Because the fight against communism/fascism/totalitarianism can never end!

But authoritarianism is ok and must be supported at all costs.

[DogOnPorch]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

But authoritarianism is ok and must be supported at all costs.

 

Matthew C. MacWilliams...who makes $$$ on books/articles claiming authoritarianism is EVERYWHERE. Accuses visitors to his website of being authoritarian and even has a test to find out how close to authoritarian absolute you are (he made the test).

Why he's barely biased towards Trump at all...spending most of his time these days using his self-accredited credentials  to write negative MSM articles like the one presented...for $$$ of course. That's when not holding court at the University of Massachusetts...teaching about how authoritarian Trump and America are....for $$$ of course. He's not doing it for FREE...God Bless America...lol.

 

 

Edited October 7, 2020 by DogOnPorch

[WestCanMan]

31 minutes ago, dialamah said:

But authoritarianism is ok and must be supported at all costs.

I could write an article and say that you're a fairy 100 times, but without some kind of proof that you have wings on your back or a magic wand, it's just bluster. It's called a circular argument.

Your idiotic article doesn't have any evidence whatsoever that Trump is an authoritarian, it just makes the same accusation over and over. The closest it comes is it refers to limiting the freedom of the press, but at no point has Trump ever done that. 

In fact, members of the media have 'leaked' false information over and over again with impunity. In China those people would all go missing and if they couldn't be found then their family members would pay the price. That's authoritarianism. 

Just so we're clear, what I'm saying = your article was just really really idiotic and a complete waste of time.

For your edification, an example of an authoritarian is a guy like Trudeau, who buys selective press agencies with $1,400,000,000,000.00 of our taxpayer dollars and then permanently bans non-conforming media (Rebel) from any and all Liberal government-related functions. Rebel media members literally get strong-armed by the police while they're on public property outside of Trudeau's events. That's limiting freedom of the press in the most blatant way imaginable. 

An example of an authoritarian is a guy like Trudeau, who as the PM, and a person with no formal legal education whatsoever, acts as the de facto AG, dispensing justice and freeing up companies like SNC to break laws with a wave of his hand. A PM/AG who unilaterally shuts down ethics investigations into his own serious malfeasance, when he has been proven to be guilty, is an authoritarian.

Did Trump unilaterally shut down the witch hunt against him, even when it had produced zero evidence after 3 years?

Trump is more of a punching bag from the liberal MSM than an autocrat. Your article couldn't be any more idiotic. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Matthew C. MacWilliams...who makes $$$ on books/articles claiming authoritarianism is EVERYWHERE. Accuses visitors to his website of being authoritarian and even has a test to find out how close to authoritarian absolute you are (he made the test).

Why he's barely biased towards Trump at all...spending most of his time these days using his self-accredited credentials  to write negative MSM articles like the one presented...for $$$ of course. That's when to holding court at the University of Massachusetts...teaching about how authoritarian Trump and America are....for $$$ of course. He's not doing it for FREE...God Bless America...lol.

Reminds me of Bob Woodward and his awesome catchphrase: "THIS IS WORSE THAN WATERGATE".

[dialamah]

Regardless, its well known that Trump's style of leadership is authoritarian.  Threats to not leave White House if he loses, claiming he could only lose by "cheating" (aka letting everyone vote), using the army to quell civilian protests, calling on paramilitary organizations to fight other Americans on his behalf, creating a common enemy called "American Democrats", along with minorities.   These are all practices engaged in by politicians who want complete and unfettered power.

He's cheered on and venerated by you, WCM, OW, Betsy, Taxme, bush_cheney and many others in the States and Canada.  You guys should at least own your ideology.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/23/trump-authoritarianism-portland-cbp-election

https://www.justsecurity.org/70544/trumps-moves-are-right-out-of-the-authoritarian-playbook/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/10/07/what-authoritarian-countries-can-tell-us-democracy-and-trump/3518563001/

 

 

Edited October 7, 2020 by dialamah

[DogOnPorch]

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Reminds me of Bob Woodward and his awesome catchphrase: "THIS IS WORSE THAN WATERGATE".

 

Using obvious ideologues to 'prove' something proves nothing other than proving one's own bias.

 

2 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Regardless, its well known that Trump's style of leadership is authoritarian. 

 

A fallacy. Well known to you as you're proving the negative. Argument from ignorance...as they say.

Trump is President of the United States. Rules apply to this position that the Democrats have already conducted numerous witch hunts that would make McCarthy blush in attempts to show that Trump is breaking these rules. All these efforts have failed...but they vow more. No matter the lives they destroy.

Yet Trump is the apparent authoritarian...as the leftist street gangs burn down another business.

 

[DogOnPorch]

30 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Reminds me of Bob Woodward and his awesome catchphrase: "THIS IS WORSE THAN WATERGATE".

 

To boot, the guy got his...doctorate...in 2016. He's a doctor of Trumpology! Don't question is auth-or-ity. The irony of needing the very figure one denigrates to earn a living must not be lost on ...lol...Dr MacWilliams.

[bush_cheney2004]

22 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Regardless, its well known that Trump's style of leadership is authoritarian. 

He's cheered on and venerated by you, WCM, OW, Betsy, Taxme, bush_cheney and many others in the States and Canada.  You guys should at least own your ideology.

 

President Trump is no more authoritarian than many other previous American presidents (like FDR), and is constrained by the limits of his office and the U.S. Constitution.   A Canadian PM with majority rule has more unchecked power than any U.S. president.

Trump is transactional, not authoritarian.

[Infidel Dog]

Biden wants to shut down the country if elected to train the citzenry to obedience. He wants to dilute the supreme court, open the borders, and allow Democrat friendly countries like Puerto Rico state ship. He does this to ensure continuing loyalty to his party and give him carte blanche. He talks about replacing the police with a new sort of policing. One remembers how the Nazis (I think it was Goerring) brought in the brown shirt thugs to police with what was supposed to be an alternative sort of policing. Obama used to talk about a desire to do something similar. So this has been on the left's wish list for awhile. 

The Republicans talk about rights of the individual through the constitution. So which is the more likely to push towards authoritarianism?

Again the term "projection" jumps to mind.

Edited October 7, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[Shady]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

Regardless, its well known that Trump's style of leadership is authoritarian.  Threats to not leave White House if he loses, claiming he could only lose by "cheating" (aka letting everyone vote), using the army to quell civilian protests, calling on paramilitary organizations to fight other Americans on his behalf, creating a common enemy called "American Democrats", along with minorities.   These are all practices engaged in by politicians who want complete and unfettered power.

He's cheered on and venerated by you, WCM, OW, Betsy, Taxme, bush_cheney and many others in the States and Canada.  You guys should at least own your ideology.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/23/trump-authoritarianism-portland-cbp-election

https://www.justsecurity.org/70544/trumps-moves-are-right-out-of-the-authoritarian-playbook/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/10/07/what-authoritarian-countries-can-tell-us-democracy-and-trump/3518563001/

 

 

I love satire too!

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

Regardless, its well known that Trump's style of leadership is authoritarian....

More lies and stupidity.

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Threats to not leave White House if he loses,

Lie

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claiming he could only lose by "cheating" (aka letting everyone vote),

Lie (lie).

Just because he's calling the Dems out for their cheating doesn't mean he's lying. The Dems want to incorporate every voter fraud friendly option known to man into the 2016 election. 

(everyone who wants to vote already can - duh. "I don't have ID so I can't vote" isn't a real thing, and people need state issued ID with a sig on the back, registered, in order to vote by mail too - DOH!!!!)

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using the army to quell civilian protests,

FYI the POTUS has never done that. He lacks the authority. He can't even send in the national guard unless the state or  mayor asks him for it. He cn merely have them on standby. 

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calling on paramilitary organizations to fight other Americans on his behalf,

Are you f'n kidding me? The Dems are doing that via Antifa and BLM. The GOP aren't doing that at all. 

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creating a common enemy called "American Democrats", along with minorities.   

The Demonrats are an enemy of the state. Haven't you seen how they use 

Minorities are not an enemy of the state and Trump has never said such a thing. That's not just a lie, it's a repugnant lie. What kind of person would tell such a lie?

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These are all practices engaged in by politicians who want complete and unfettered power.

The dems and their false investigations, and their abuse of the powers of the CIA and FBI, which is well-documented of late, are actual examples of that, but you're their sycophant. You adore it when they abuse power. 

[Infidel Dog]

Russia’s Putin Praises ‘Ideological’ Links Between Democrats, Soviet Communism

Nuff said?

Edited October 7, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[dialamah]

46 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Biden wants to shut down the country if elected to train the citzenry to obedience. He wants to dilute the supreme court, open the borders, and allow Democrat friendly countries like Puerto Rico state ship. He does this to ensure continuing loyalty to his party and give him carte blanche. He talks about replacing the police with a new sort of policing. One remembers how the Nazis (I think it was Goerring) brought in the brown shirt thugs to police with what was supposed to be an alternative sort of policing. Obama used to talk about a desire to do something similar. So this has been on the left's wish list for awhile. 

The Republicans talk about rights of the individual through the constitution. So which is the more likely to push towards authoritarianism?

Again the term "projection" jumps to mind.

 

1.  Puerto Rico is already an American territory, and while it's citizens do not (usually) have to pay income tax to the US, they are subject to US laws in other respects.  Why should they not become a State, vote in elections and pay income tax?

2.  Dilute the Supreme court - to what, exactly?  Not being a completely partisan conservative court, as the Republicans have now made it?  Why do you disapprove of Democrats stacking of the court, but not Republicans?    Considering that the majority of Americans consider themselves socially liberal, the appointing of judges who do not represent that majority view is certainly not what the American people want, so why are the Republicans doing it?  Why was it ok for the Republicans to refuse to let Obama name a judge for months because "the New President" should name the judge, but now it's "rush her through in mere weeks"?   Why do you support in Republicans what you decry in Democrats?  

3.  Show some cites - not from right-wing rags- that Biden has said he wants to shut down the country.  Show cites - not from right-wing rags - that Biden wants to 'train the citizenry to obedience".  Both those things sound like tinfoil-hat theories.

4.  Puerto Rico is already a territory of the US, having to follow certain laws.  Why shouldn't they be allowed to vote, if they want to join the US as a State?  

5.  If the only way that Republicans can win is to limit voters and suppress votes as much possible, should they be allowed be govern?

6.  Comment on Brown Shirts with Nazi Germany - Trump just said to White Supremacist groups "Stand back and Stand by".  

7.  Speaking of Nazi Germany, how much of what Trump is doing now did Hitler do prior to his taking over as dictator?  You should check that out, but since I know you won't, I'm happy to lay it out for you:

• Attack the media; Hitler used terms like "Lying Press" and "Fake News", and where else have we heard that but from Trump for the past 4 years.
• Degrade those that disagree with them;
• Eliminate those that disagree with them (how many non-sycophants has Trump fired?  All of them, right.);
• Attack minorities (Trump - Muslims & Mexicans; Hitler -Jews and Slavs);
• Tight border controls/closing were promised by Hitler and Trump;
• Demonizing enemies; Hitler used terms like "parasites, criminals, leftist scum", terms which Trump also likes to throw around.
• Neither Hitler nor Trump were elected by majority vote;  
• Hitler called into question the integrity of the election process, and tried to reduce the number of people whose vote could be counted.  Trump is currently doing both those things.

Please, look into it and then ask yourself why you support someone who is following Hitler's path so closely.