Federal government creating inventory of racial minorities.

[Argus]

25 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Do you pay any attention to experts in the field of immigration?

The cite I posted was from the former head of Canada's immigration agency. Did you pay any attention to it?

NOPE!

 

[dialamah]

10 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Merit has no place on the Left. It's ALL identity politics....a fancy phrase for racism.

As opposed to the actual racism exhibited by people ascribing laziness, criminality and unacceptable in Western White society to entire groups of people based on their ethnicity. 

So bad ideas will be destroyed in the "marketplace of ideas", claim proponents of unfettered free speech.  Clearly that's not happening.  Xenophobes are supported by other Xenophobes in their bubble, and they fail to see how their tribal attitudes are mirrors of the same tribal attitudes that result in extreme actions around the world - beheadings, "re-education camps", genocide.  The lack of extreme action in Western countries doesn't mean the tribalism of this group as exemplified by the far-right posters here is any different than the tribalism of Islamists against Westerners or the Chinese and Indians against Muslims.  

[DogOnPorch]

6 minutes ago, dialamah said:

As opposed to the actual racism exhibited by people ascribing laziness, criminality and unacceptable in Western White society to entire groups of people based on their ethnicity. 

 

 

What colour am I?

[dialamah]

10 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

What colour am I?

[DogOnPorch]

6 minutes ago, dialamah said:

 

I accept your surrender.

 

[Moonlight Graham]

35 minutes ago, dialamah said:

As opposed to the actual racism exhibited by people ascribing laziness, criminality and unacceptable in Western White society to entire groups of people based on their ethnicity. 

So bad ideas will be destroyed in the "marketplace of ideas", claim proponents of unfettered free speech.  Clearly that's not happening.  Xenophobes are supported by other Xenophobes in their bubble, and they fail to see how their tribal attitudes are mirrors of the same tribal attitudes that result in extreme actions around the world - beheadings, "re-education camps", genocide.  The lack of extreme action in Western countries doesn't mean the tribalism of this group as exemplified by the far-right posters here is any different than the tribalism of Islamists against Westerners or the Chinese and Indians against Muslims.  

If the government is going to hire people based on race, and discriminate against white people, it should be based on research that non-white government employees are not being hired because of their race into senior positions, and not because of other variables.  I'd be ok with that.

But that's not what i've seen from our government.  Where is the research to back the need for this racial inventory, and the need to discriminate against white people?  What I see George Floyd getting killed etc, lots of protests, and now the government saying "there's racism out there, let's help by hiring more POC".  Sorry, that's not good enough.

I also heard today that because COVID affects women disproportionately, Trudeau will give some financial support to women.  If that's true that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard.  Having a vagina does not make you more targeted, it's what these women are doing that does (teaching, nursing, caregiving, contact with eldery/children, working retail & waitressing etc).  So target those vulnerable people, not their gender.  Virtue signalling BS.  Male teachers, nurses, single parents, retail workers etc will get nothing, while single women with no kids working from home may get a handout.  Some people are intent on using one variable like gender and race to diagnose social problems when there's more than one variable involved, which is just bad social science.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

As opposed to the actual racism exhibited by people.....

There you go again; pontificating, virtue-signalling, and making baseless accusations when you should be learning. 

Edited September 23, 2020 by WestCanMan

[OftenWrong]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

People who think they are virtuous without exception are the problem here, not virtuous people who have been taken advantage of.  The cult of the self overtook the selfless mindset that was the essence of the religiously observant.

In my view they are not so naive as to believe they are virtuous. They simply don't care.

Quote

Your response has this phenomenon embedded in it.

How is yours so much better then? At least I don't point my finger at you. I only speak to the topics, in general.

Oh and for that you got ups from your squad. Perfect example of how it works, really.

Tell you what Physician, heal thyself.

Edited September 23, 2020 by OftenWrong

[dialamah]

3 hours ago, Argus said:

Again, you're incapable of engaging in mature discussion. Both because you're emotionally devoted to immigration, and because that's how you make your living. Because of that you're going to lie and attack anyone who questions mass immigration for any reason. Even if you have to pretend they have some ulterior, nefarious motive.

He works in immigration and understands how the system works; I've worked on the other side of that - getting temp work visas, and its not a piece of cake.  It's far easier to bring in people from Europe for temp work, than people from India or the ME.  

But, as expected, you toss out everything he's said in favor of your own ignorant opinions, littering your response with insults and ad hominem attacks.  And you claim he's incapable of having mature discussion.    Clearly, a "mature discussion" means simply repeating your opinion back to you - like an echo chamber.

Remember how fast you got banned from some other discussion forums, on Reddit, iirc.  Maybe its not them who are unreasonable, but you.  

 

[Argus]

3 hours ago, dialamah said:

He works in immigration and understands how the system works; I've worked on the other side of that - getting temp work visas, and its not a piece of cake.  It's far easier to bring in people from Europe for temp work, than people from India or the ME.  

But, as expected, you toss out everything he's said in favor of your own ignorant opinions, littering your response with insults and ad hominem attacks. 

There were no insults, you shrew, nor ad hominem attacks. I returned the level of respect he gave me, just as I always do with you. Both of you, being on the far left, despise anyone who disagrees with  any of your sacred views on social welfare policy. It infuriates you and you instantly think the other person is evil and guilty of all kinds of thought-crimes.

I cited a guy who was the head of immigration Canada and can be presumed to not only know everything about the system but not be biased. You completely ignored him. Marcus works for the immigration industry, likely for one of those legion of unethical immigration consultants. His whole job and living depends on mass immigration. Of course he's not an unbiased source. But because he agrees with you you're outraged I'm not agreeing. But then you're never interested in facts or evidence because your far left political views cause you to make every single discussion about your noble motives vs the evil motives of anyone who disagrees with you.

Edited September 23, 2020 by Argus

[dialamah]

6 hours ago, Argus said:

you shrew

I'm not surprised you'd resort to misogynistic, sexist insults when bested by a woman.

[Argus]

11 hours ago, dialamah said:

I'm not surprised you'd resort to misogynistic, sexist insults when bested by a woman.

I'm not surprised you snivel and whine and bitch and insult people then get outraged when someone tells you what they think of how you behave.

[dialamah]

3 hours ago, Argus said:

then get outraged

Except I'm laughing at you.   

[DogOnPorch]

18 hours ago, dialamah said:

I'm not surprised you'd resort to misogynistic, sexist insults when bested by a woman.

 

Liz Taylor you're not.

Edited September 24, 2020 by DogOnPorch

[WestCanMan]

15 hours ago, dialamah said:

I'm not surprised you'd resort to misogynistic, sexist insults when bested by a woman.

Sorry to say but your idiotic and unsubstantiated allegations only score points in the virtue-signalling competition inside your head d. You never bested anyone in real life.

At best all that you did here was prove that you don't really understand the topic at hand. Don't worry though, your fellow leftists aren't hung up on trivial facts like that. 

[taxme]

On 8/28/2020 at 9:17 AM, Argus said:

Ottawa creating ‘inventory’ of racial minorities to fill senior public service posts.

Oh just what we need. The federal government apparently doesn't feel there's enough racism and is looking to create more by encouraging resentment towards racial minorities. Now every time a senior public servant is non-white everyone will simply assume they've got the job solely due to skin colour. Way to go, brainiacs. By the way, the great majority of these 'racialized' candidates will be immigrants. Somehow or other we have to make it up to them for not hiring their parents - who never lived in Canada! Because according to Statistics Canada 68.8% of visible minorities are immigrants and most of the rest (27%) are their kids, who are likely too young for senior positions in government. Of course, the list will also include indigenous Canadians. After all, only 4% of senior positions are held by indigenous Canadians even though they make up 4% of Canada's population.

The Liberal government wants to create an “inventory” of Black, Indigenous and other racialized people who could play high-ranking roles in the federal public service.

It is looking for an executive search firm to create and maintain the list of candidates from minority groups, as well as people with disabilities, who could be considered for deputy minister and assistant deputy minister positions.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-ottawa-creating-inventory-of-racial-minorities-to-fill-senior-public/#comments

Just more anti-white racism going on in Canada. It seems like white people will now have to give up their own white homeland to non-white foreigners. If one is white and you dare to criticize this new inventory you will be called a racist. 

Well, I guess that makes me a racist then because I think that this inventory plan stinks like hell. It is racism. 

[Argus]

3 hours ago, dialamah said:

Except I'm laughing at you.   

You're far too self-righteous to laugh.

[Charles Anthony]

Folks, 

Avoid personal attacks. 

Play the ball.  Do not play the person. 

[marcus]

On 9/23/2020 at 8:22 AM, Argus said:

The cite I posted was from the former head of Canada's immigration agency. Did you pay any attention to it?

NOPE!

 

He was the High Commissioner to Trinidad and Tobago and later an ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary to Yugoslavia, Albania, and Bulgaria. All of this before the 1990's.

You know how many immigration changes have been made since James Bissett, who is 89 now, retired in 1992? 

I didn't want to bring it up, but now that you're trying to flash his credentials, it's also important to note that James Bissett, (pictured below), has been a consistent defender of Serb leader Slobodan Milošević an authoritarian, who was complicit in the genocide of thousands.

This is typical of your approach to discussion. You searched and searched, until you found someone who shares your opinion on immigration. You used an article from 2017, which used statistics from years before to make a point. Then of course, there is the amazing 17% argument, which basically questions why children of principal applicants are not being assessed for their language, education and work experience. Which is, of course, ridiculous.

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Argus, you have so far failed to show how Canadian immigration "favours" Muslim countries. 

[Argus]

40 minutes ago, marcus said:

This is typical of your approach to discussion. You searched and searched, until you found someone who shares your opinion on immigration.

Uhm, no, I live in Ottawa. This was in the Ottawa newspaper. That's where I read it, and I saved it because it has statistics which are difficult to find elsewhere.

40 minutes ago, marcus said:

You used an article from 2017, which used statistics from years before to make a point.

Ah, you're saying immigration has changed hugely in the last three years? Is that the argument?

40 minutes ago, marcus said:

Then of course, there is the amazing 17% argument, which basically questions why children of principal applicants are not being assessed for their language, education and work experience. Which is, of course, ridiculous.

I didn't suggest children should be assessed. However, if you're going to say more than half of immigrants come in as skilled that's simply untrue. Only the principal applicant is skilled. The rest are family, and yes, spouses too are not screened.

[taxme]

On 9/23/2020 at 8:33 AM, dialamah said:

As opposed to the actual racism exhibited by people ascribing laziness, criminality and unacceptable in Western White society to entire groups of people based on their ethnicity. 

So bad ideas will be destroyed in the "marketplace of ideas", claim proponents of unfettered free speech.  Clearly that's not happening.  Xenophobes are supported by other Xenophobes in their bubble, and they fail to see how their tribal attitudes are mirrors of the same tribal attitudes that result in extreme actions around the world - beheadings, "re-education camps", genocide.  The lack of extreme action in Western countries doesn't mean the tribalism of this group as exemplified by the far-right posters here is any different than the tribalism of Islamists against Westerners or the Chinese and Indians against Muslims.  

Racism does now exist in Canada and the rest of the white world today. But it is now happening against the white people in Canada and the Western white countries of today. Our white history and culture and traditions are under attack and being dismantled day by day by, believe it or not, their own white people. Those white people seem to have a white guilt ridden leftist liberal I hate my white skin color complex. Why are there so many white people today refusing to stand up for their white race and culture like so many non-white races and cultures seem to do? No one ever calls them racist for doing so.  White people will all pay one day for this because of those white fools who must truly hate their own white skin. Just my opinion of course. 

[-TSS-]

Isn't Canadian French something that the French in France would find hard to understand? Namely full of English words twisted in some French version?

[Argus]

14 minutes ago, -TSS- said:

Isn't Canadian French something that the French in France would find hard to understand? Namely full of English words twisted in some French version?

It's actually, as I understand it, the other way around. Quebec French has remained more 'pure' compared to the version spoken in France.