Petition to Remove Churchill Street Name

[taxme]

8 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

What we see today is nothing that a world war wouldn't solve.

Hang onto yur panties. Once Trump is gone it will once again be game on for more wars. 

[OftenWrong]

16 hours ago, taxme said:

Hang onto yur panties. Once Trump is gone it will once again be game on for more wars. 

That's a great point. People are not recognizing these significant changes under Trump. We are instead being bombarded with total BS tabloid news instead, that seeks to demonize the man. It's absurd because it is so extreme. But then, that's how a lot of things are becoming now. The pressure and threat of war is what maintains final authority over us. You cannot have a war unless you have a government with total authority. War is the yoke the elite place upon us to keep us so that they will have complete authority.

[Moonlight Graham]

In 50 years they'll be renaming streets named after Barack Obama because he used to not support gay marriage.

[Moonlight Graham]

Can't wait until they tale down the Lincoln Memorial because he didn't support gay marriage or abortion.

[taxme]

On 7/31/2020 at 5:32 AM, OftenWrong said:

That's a great point. People are not recognizing these significant changes under Trump. We are instead being bombarded with total BS tabloid news instead, that seeks to demonize the man. It's absurd because it is so extreme. But then, that's how a lot of things are becoming now. The pressure and threat of war is what maintains final authority over us. You cannot have a war unless you have a government with total authority. War is the yoke the elite place upon us to keep us so that they will have complete authority.

Our governments/politicians and the MSM will go to whatever length that they can to get we the people to believe their lies and bull chit. Government "IS" the problem, not we the people. I am starting to believe that all things associated with the British culture, language, traditions and heritage is all on the chopping block and all is being done by the anti British french politicians from Quebec controlling Ottawa today. They truly do have a hatred for all things British. It all started with old commie man Trudeau, and his young punk commie kid is trying to finish the job. Trying to remove the name of Churchill from some street sign is just another attack on the British history and traditions that once made this country great. 

[MarLonJohansson]

I know we are all entitled to our opinions but I definitely do not agree that statues and street names should be changed. Also, if people were to look for something that is located ion that street, wouldn't they refer to is as the former Churchill street? I mean, changing the name is pointless. Also, he really wasn't that great but he did play a large part in history and it needs to be acknowledged. let's not revise history. 

[Michael Hardner]

On 8/1/2020 at 1:01 AM, Moonlight Graham said:

Can't wait until they tale down the Lincoln Memorial because he didn't support gay marriage or abortion.

They may indeed do that.  Or they may move past it because the prejudices of the past aren't a threat to the present.  In any case, misgivings and historical distortions are always part of contemporary life.  

That includes people reacting to racism by insisting statues are torn down and streets renamed.  

[Michael Hardner]

On 8/1/2020 at 1:01 AM, Moonlight Graham said:

Can't wait until they tale down the Lincoln Memorial because he didn't support gay marriage or abortion.

Lincoln thought that African-Americans were unequal to whites.  Doesn't fit the narrative very well.

[Michael Hardner]

5 hours ago, MarLonJohansson said:

I know we are all entitled to our opinions but I definitely do not agree that statues and street names should be changed. Also, if people were to look for something that is located ion that street, wouldn't they refer to is as the former Churchill street? I mean, changing the name is pointless. Also, he really wasn't that great but he did play a large part in history and it needs to be acknowledged. let's not revise history. 

You  don't want to revise history and that's fine.  That's one vote for your side.  Lots of people feel otherwise.

Furthermore, the so-called respect for history is actually just left-right identity politics at play once again.  It's a very easy thing for people to get upset about, you see.

I would prefer that liberal parties stop trying to bring academic discussions into the mainstream.  Our public engagement processes aren't designed for those kinds of discussions.  If there's a popular request to change street names then let's look at that.  There's a thin line between politics supporting people and dividing them.

[Moonlight Graham]

Changing street names because somebody gets butt hurt is a waste of tax dollars.

[Infidel Dog]

Churchill was a great man. 

These guys from Mississauga and their prog-comm supporters don't like him. 

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=palestine+house+mississauga&atb=v235-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DWCqmsAp1tak

I don't care. I wouldn't change the name of a port o potty for them. Those Palestine House of Mississauga types are  troublemakers. Every time I hear about them they're stirring something up. If they win they consider it shows who's in charge and to them it's not the Westerners who respect their history. That's what it's really about. Thanks but no thanks. I've got better things to do than to self-dhimmify (my word from the root Dhimmi ) for the followers of some 7th century warlord.

Edited January 24, 2021 by Infidel Dog

[Infidel Dog]

I followed the links and wound up here:

https://www.canadabiz.net/company/10401358/

That's why I suspect the usual suspects of trouble in Mississauga.

[Michael Hardner]

8 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Changing street names because somebody gets butt hurt is a waste of tax dollars.

Butt-hurtness is a personal attribute.  Some countries let you invade the capital if you're butt hurt.  Some people stop watching football because a guy kneeling butt hurt them.

What butt hurts you ?  You should have to release one butt softspot every time you complain.  Like Christians who complain that they should be able to make fun of the prophet should have to attend a gallery exposition of Mapplethorpe's "Piss Jesus"...

And for those of us who don't give a shit... we'll be over here on "Joseph Brant Street" watching football and South Park.

[Michael Hardner]

Oh... also people get butt hurt when people fly the flag upside-down, burn it, or wear a poppy that has different colours.

And they get butt-hurt if the government defines hate speech terms.  And they get butt-hurt if people don't use their pronouns.

Nobody has a right to not be offended, nor do they have a right to stop offended people from maximizing their political and economic power.  So bye-bye to Don Cherry, John A. McDonald street, Parler... bye.... bye....

[Moonlight Graham]

9 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Oh... also people get butt hurt when people fly the flag upside-down, burn it, or wear a poppy that has different colours.

And they get butt-hurt if the government defines hate speech terms.  And they get butt-hurt if people don't use their pronouns.

Nobody has a right to not be offended, nor do they have a right to stop offended people from maximizing their political and economic power.  So bye-bye to Don Cherry, John A. McDonald street, Parler... bye.... bye....

You sound butt hurt.

Edited January 25, 2021 by Moonlight Graham

[taxme]

On 1/21/2021 at 11:57 PM, MarLonJohansson said:

I know we are all entitled to our opinions but I definitely do not agree that statues and street names should be changed. Also, if people were to look for something that is located ion that street, wouldn't they refer to is as the former Churchill street? I mean, changing the name is pointless. Also, he really wasn't that great but he did play a large part in history and it needs to be acknowledged. let's not revise history. 

The changing of names is all about changing Canadian history. We have so called leftist liberal socialist political leaders in this country that could care less about Canada or it's history. They appear to want to end Canada as we know it now. The more third world immigration the better they like it. Those immigrants could care less about Canadian history. They seem to be only interested in their own history.

Multiculturalism is doing a fine job of destroying Canadian history. And the french from Quebec are behind it all. They despise English Canada and their British history and have been trying to destroy our history for decades now. Quebec has offered nothing to Canada except to try and destroy Canada. A bunch of socialist liberal deplorable's. 

[Zeitgeist]

On 1/24/2021 at 9:16 AM, Michael Hardner said:

Oh... also people get butt hurt when people fly the flag upside-down, burn it, or wear a poppy that has different colours.

And they get butt-hurt if the government defines hate speech terms.  And they get butt-hurt if people don't use their pronouns.

Nobody has a right to not be offended, nor do they have a right to stop offended people from maximizing their political and economic power.  So bye-bye to Don Cherry, John A. McDonald street, Parler... bye.... bye....

Sad to see how little respect there is for the giants who were the progressives of their time and built the institutions that secure our liberty today.  Nietzsche predicted this in Twilight of the Idols.  The heroes become disrespected and deplored by vandals who could never achieve what a Winston Churchill or Abraham Lincoln did in the same context.  I wonder how progressive a world we'd have if Britain hadn't declared war on Nazism and brought her allies along to fight fascism.  How would special needs people, homosexuals, visible minorities, and the marginalized be treated?  Context is everything.  Those who forget history are destined to repeat it.  

[Zeitgeist]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

Sad to see how little respect there is for the giants who were the progressives of their time and built the institutions that secure our liberty today.  Nietzsche predicted this in Twilight of the Idols.  The heroes become disrespected and deplored by vandals who could never achieve what a Winston Churchill or Abraham Lincoln did in their respective contexts.  I wonder how progressive a world we'd have if Britain hadn't declared war on Nazism and brought her allies along to fight fascism?  How would special needs people, homosexuals, visible minorities, and the marginalized be treated?  Context is everything.  Those who forget history are destined to repeat it.  

 

Edited February 8, 2021 by Zeitgeist

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

 Those who forget history are destined to repeat it.  

Like the Trumpers who complain we're living under Communism now that Biden has won.

[Zeitgeist]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

Like the Trumpers who complain we're living under Communism now that Biden has won.

Weak analogy

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Weak analogy

Why ?  You have one mob taking down Sir John A. statues and another one storming the capitol dressed as buffalo and demanding organic meals in jail.  Everything is terrible, despite your apparent need to blame part of society for it.

[Zeitgeist]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

Why ?  You have one mob taking down Sir John A. statues and another one storming the capitol dressed as buffalo and demanding organic meals in jail.  Everything is terrible, despite your apparent need to blame part of society for it.

Neither Biden nor Trump is a giant.  

[Right To Left]

On 2/7/2021 at 10:17 PM, Zeitgeist said:

Neither Biden nor Trump is a giant.  

Nor Churchill! He was just the last of the line of British imperialists who was trying to maintain England's imperial primacy in the world as the new empire - America, was rising fast to take its place. Churchill as a political leader was a stubborn deadender, who caused unneeded death and suffering at home and especially in colonies like India, where his deliberate starvation strategies in East Bengal caused the deaths of millions!

I don't believe in the Great Man theory of history as a general rule. The leaders are not much different than coaches of winning teams getting credit because their names are associated with teams whose owners were willing to fork out more money than the other rich idiots who try to use their money to get in a photo with the championship team they otherwise, had no talent to join when they were young! 

So, back before our economic system turned into a complete joke (a magical time before central banks were comfortable creating $Trillions of new dollars to spend in and leave as a burden for future generations), an unfortunate leader like James Callahan, who gets the top job in England just as high oil prices and no domestic production yet from the North Sea, presides over the UK's 'Winter of Discontent.' His replacement - Margaret Thatcher, is a subject of scorn early on with her radical destruction of the Social Contract and anti-labour laws. But as oil prices decline, along with domestic production starting during Thatcher's reign, she and her murderous economic advisers are declared heroes by enough of the British public to win re-election. Same scenario from Carter to Reagan in the US during the 80's. 

And that aside, if it's about honoring the great hero who won the 2nd World War, then you need statues of Joseph Stalin to be put up in public squares! Because Russia and her Soviet allies had to sacrifice 27 million lives to defeat Hitler's armies on the Eastern Front.....where the bulk of the fighting was actually being done!  And today, history is being erased as Soviets are being accused of "murdering" German troops who were trying to hold Poland, Ukraine and other East Bloc territories. In some of the concentration camps-like Auschwitz, the Germans and Nazi allies were still trying to liquidate Jewish and other prisoners when the first divisions of the Red Army overran the camps and ended their slaughter.

I would credit Churchill for being the lone voice among the western leaders to decide early on that Hitler needed to be stopped before guns could be turned on the Communist East.  Roosevelt and US political and business leaders were trying to work out a deal with Hitler until Japan launched an attack on the US Pacific Fleet in Hawaii and changed their plans. 

[taxme]

On 2/7/2021 at 7:11 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Like the Trumpers who complain we're living under Communism now that Biden has won.

Everything going on today in Canada and America smacks of globalist communism. I have lost so much freedom in Canada today that I feel like I am now living in some communist country. What I took for granted just ten months ago has now been pretty much taken away from me. Our politicians have pretty much become communist like dictators. 

I am now being forced to wear a mask against my will. I am being forced to keep my distance from others. I am being forced to be quarantine if I test positive for Covid. I cannot attend big sports events or other venues or casinos anymore. Flying has now become a bloody pain in the ass. I may need a covid vaccination pass to drive across the American land border soon. Now they want us all to wear two masks and tell us that even after we all get vaccinated we may have to carry on like we are being forced to do today for years to come.

Come on you bunch of lemmings. When are all ever going to wake the hell up and end this virus madness for good? Are you happy living this new normal life? I suppose one can be very happy with this new normal life if they never really had a happy or FUN life. But for people like me I had a FUN life and I want that old normal FUN life back. This hoax virus has done more harm and damage to society than this Convid virus ever could. Believe it or not. 

Bi"dumb" is a globalist communist. I am pretty sure that globalist comrade Trudeau is quite happy these days to have another globalist comrade like him that he can now suck up to and play and pal around with. Trump was not his friend. I doubt that there is anyone out there who would want to be comrade Trudeau's friend anyway? Well, there is always Gerald(Beavis)Butthead, I guess. LOL.  

[taxme]

On 2/7/2021 at 7:17 PM, Zeitgeist said:

Neither Biden nor Trump is a giant.  

Trump was a real and true giant leader and a real man. Bi"dumb" is nothing more than a globalist puppet on a string buffoon who has no idea of what being a real man is all about. Trump took on the globalists. Trump scared the shit out of the globalists. Bi"dumb"on the other hand bends the knee and kisses the globalist butt. Trump is still a giant.