Tdot Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources Quote This may be the "costliest government coverup of all time," one of the sources said. The sources believe the initial transmission of the virus was bat-to-human, and that "patient zero" worked at the laboratory, then went into the population in Wuhan. The “increasing confidence” comes from classified and open-source documents and evidence, the sources said. Fox News has requested to see the evidence directly. Asked by Fox News' John Roberts about the reporting, President Trump remarked at Wednesday's coronavirus press briefing, "More and more we're hearing the story...we are doing a very thorough examination of this horrible situation." Documents detail early efforts by doctors at the lab and early efforts at containment. The Wuhan wet market initially identified as a possible point of origin never sold bats, and the sources tell Fox News that blaming the wet market was an effort by China to deflect blame from the laboratory, along with the country's propaganda efforts targeting the U.S. and Italy. U.S. Embassy officials warned in January 2018 about inadequate safety at the Wuhan Institute of Virology lab and passed on information about scientists conducting risky research on coronavirus from bats, The Washington Post reported Tuesday... Will Canada GOVT rise up, against Evil, by demanding answers from China? Edited April 16, 2020 by Tdot Quote
Tdot Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) ROFL @ deceitful Dems now blaming, President Trump, because China's GOVT failed in 2018 @ keeping their Wuhan Bat Virology Lab's processes safe & secure. Wow! https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/ ... Will Canada blame Trump, as well? Instead of blaming China?? Edited April 16, 2020 by Tdot Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 I don't even know what to believe anymore. 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Guest Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: I don't even know what to believe anymore. Yeah, you're not alone, that's for sure. Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 I've said right from the beginning that I don't think the virus came from a "wet market", but I don't think that we will ever get proof. China will never admit to it and no one can hold their feet to the fire. This will forever remain a conspiracy theory unless it was stage 1 of a successful bio-warfare attack from China which they end up bragging about in years to come. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Tdot Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: China will never admit to it and no one can hold their feet to the fire. This will forever remain a conspiracy theory... I disagree. I think the fact that back in 2018, USA officials were listing public concerns about China Institute of Virology's specific handling of the CoronaVirus (bats) testing processes, is sobering for Mankind. This institution is physically located only a few miles from the Wuhan wet market, where the blame was strategically placed. Quote
QuebecOverCanada Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 Lab or not, China's handling of the virus and the fact they left their international borders open while they quarantined Wuhan internally so to spread the virus outside of China while protecting itself is a war declaration. 1 Quote
betsy Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 China sent PPE to Canada. Can we trust the quality of those masks? What happens to a nation whose medical workforce is stricken with this illness? Quote
Rue Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Tdot said: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources Will Canada GOVT rise up, against Evil, by demanding answers from China? Troll spambot. Misleading headline and hook and bait designed to incite anger. Edited April 16, 2020 by Rue Quote
Rue Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) This is spam. Its designed to make you angry to make you look irrational when discussing China. Its looking to incite anger. The thread headline and opening rhetorical question is an m.o. used on this forum repeatedly. Edited April 16, 2020 by Rue 3 1 Quote
Rue Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, betsy said: China sent PPE to Canada. Can we trust the quality of those masks? What happens to a nation whose medical workforce is stricken with this illness? No mask is without problems. Some from China are counterfeit. This spam incites anger to make concerns about China turn into a screaming match. Edited April 16, 2020 by Rue Quote
Rue Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said: Lab or not, China's handling of the virus and the fact they left their international borders open while they quarantined Wuhan internally so to spread the virus outside of China while protecting itself is a war declaration. China has left a lot to be answered but this troll inciting you will not lead to those answers it's simply designed to spread anger to prevent that very thing. Edited April 16, 2020 by Rue 1 Quote
Rue Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Tdot said: I disagree. I think the fact that back in 2018, USA officials were listing public concerns about China Institute of Virology's specific handling of the CoronaVirus (bats) testing processes, is sobering for Mankind. This institution is physically located only a few miles from the Wuhan wet market, where the blame was strategically placed. You disagree to feed the anger and manipulate. Edited April 16, 2020 by Rue Quote
Rue Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, bcsapper said: Yeah, you're not alone, that's for sure. There that is exactly the point of the thread.. to incite disseminate such doubt in you and others. Edited April 16, 2020 by Rue Quote
Guest Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rue said: There that is exactly the point of the thread.. to incite disseminate such doubt in you and others. The news does that to me every day. I certainly think that actual facts, with regard to China and the current virus, are very hard to come by. Edited April 16, 2020 by bcsapper Quote
OftenWrong Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 US is on a rant to demonize China, that’s for sure. Question is why, what do they know. Starting to hear more direct accusations coming out, that China did this wilfully. Not good if true. Also noteworthy is other world leaders chiming in on Donald Trump’s criticism of China and the WHO. This may not be just another hyped up story by Trump. Im more than happy to drop the Chinese squit from my plate, but not in exchange for a war. Quote
eyeball Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: US is on a rant to demonize China, that’s for sure. Question is why, what do they know. Starting to hear more direct accusations coming out, that China did this wilfully. Not good if true. Also noteworthy is other world leaders chiming in on Donald Trump’s criticism of China and the WHO. This may not be just another hyped up story by Trump. Im more than happy to drop the Chinese squit from my plate, but not in exchange for a war. The US may be anticipating their infection and death rates will increase closer to the worst case scenarios that models projected. They'll need a better excuse than oops. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Tdot Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Posted April 16, 2020 3 hours ago, OftenWrong said: US is on a rant to demonize China, that’s for sure. Question is why, what do they know. Starting to hear more direct accusations coming out, that China did this wilfully. Not good if true. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, eyeball said: The US may be anticipating their infection and death rates will increase closer to the worst case scenarios that models projected. They'll need a better excuse than oops. True but the charge that it came from a lab isn't the same as it was intentionally spread, or that said lab was manufacturing this. Nor does the fact that any politician is trying to make themself look better preclude the possibility that it did come from a lab. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
WestCanMan Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 4 hours ago, OftenWrong said: US is on a rant to demonize China, that’s for sure. Question is why, what do they know. Starting to hear more direct accusations coming out, that China did this wilfully. Not good if true. Also noteworthy is other world leaders chiming in on Donald Trump’s criticism of China and the WHO. This may not be just another hyped up story by Trump. Im more than happy to drop the Chinese squit from my plate, but not in exchange for a war. Beijing and Shanghai are both about 1,000 km from Wuhan. Neither city was hard hit by covid, compared to several other cities around the world. China lied about human to human transmission. The Chinese government let their people fly to international airports all over the world from Wuhan when they knew it was experiencing a pandemic, they even got mad that the US blocked flights from there, but they didn't let people from Wuhan travel all over China. China refused to let scientists from other countries get involved in fighting/learning about covid early on in the game, and as a result other countries were forced to rely on the misinformation coming out of China and the WHO. As a result, other countries weren't properly prepared to deal with it. I think China looks pretty bad right about now. If the viral outbreak started in NYC and Trump handled it like Xi did there would be no grey area on this topic. There wouldn't even be any question about the degree of guilt. It would be 100% guilty, no need for a trial, schedule the executioner. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, eyeball said: The US may be anticipating their infection and death rates will increase closer to the worst case scenarios that models projected. They'll need a better excuse than oops. Yeah that's probably the best reason that the US has to be mad at China right now eyeball. You nailed it. [/sarcasm] 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Shady Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, eyeball said: The US may be anticipating their infection and death rates will increase closer to the worst case scenarios that models projected. They'll need a better excuse than oops. Complete nonsense. China is the one that needs a better excuse than oops. They’ve infected the entire world. 2 Quote
Shady Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: True but the charge that it came from a lab isn't the same as it was intentionally spread, or that said lab was manufacturing this. Nor does the fact that any politician is trying to make themself look better preclude the possibility that it did come from a lab. Exactly. I don’t think anyone is suggesting it was on purpose or that it was some kind of bio weapon. It was legitimate virus research, but it looks like they’re safeguards were severely lacking. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted April 16, 2020 Report Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Shady said: Complete nonsense. China is the one that needs a better excuse than oops. They’ve infected the entire world. They've? Precisely which they've are you talking about. Please note that I said precisely. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Tdot Posted April 17, 2020 Author Report Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, eyeball said: They've? Precisely which they've are you talking about. Please note that I said precisely. China GOVT is in charge of the Wuhan Institute of Virilogy. That's where the disease came from, with respect to waaay back in 2018 USA officials visited the Institute then complained about the exact process of China's (irresponsible) handling of CoronaVirus bats. So the Chinese GOVT does fit the description of "They've". True? Moreover, is the Chinese GOVT's decision to strategically let infected Wuhan residents go out into the world ---but not let them go into Beijing--- peculiar and suspect?? Edited April 17, 2020 by Tdot Quote
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