eyeball Posted March 26, 2020 Report Posted March 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Great...then it's hail to Trump and your realization that you can't do anything about him...or America. Yep, tell us something else we don't know. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
godzilla Posted March 26, 2020 Author Report Posted March 26, 2020 Honest Government Ad | Coronavirus: Flatten The Curve Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted March 26, 2020 Report Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, godzilla said: Republicans Are Worried Coronavirus Stimulus Bill Is Too Generous to the Unemployed "Lindsey Graham thinks it “incentives” people to lay themselves off, because he has no idea how layoff works." this should be popular with southern rural voters... of course, they'll be watching Fox News so they'll never hear about it. All this talk about Republicans being bad while Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats hold up the bill, because it's not anti-business enough and not enough left wing policies that have nothing to do with Coronavirus are included in the bill. Godzilla has Republican Derangement Syndrome real bad. Edited March 26, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Boges Posted March 26, 2020 Report Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: All this talk about Republicans being bad while Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats hold up the bill, because it's not anti-business enough and not enough left wing policies that have nothing to do with Coronavirus are included in the bill. Godzilla has Republican Derangement Syndrome real bad. Pelosi isn't holding up anything. The Senate Dems held up McConnel's bill because half of it was a Corporate Slush Fund. The idiocy of Repubs thinking that this bailout will make people quit their jobs just for the bennies is mind-boggling. People don't get EI when they quit their jobs. Edited March 26, 2020 by Boges Quote
godzilla Posted March 26, 2020 Author Report Posted March 26, 2020 this article is a must read as it identifies specifically what was discussed earlier in this thread. whether Trump, the authoritarian leader, would take the bull by the horns and run with this opportunity for absolute federal power. Trump Is an Authoritarian Weakman "Coronavirus would be the perfect opportunity for an autocrat. Trump isn’t taking it." "But the stylistic question—how much ability Trump has to tailor his brand of politics to fit new circumstances and meet new demands—may well have been settled decisively in this crisis. The answer is no." i'm proposing that this puts him in a weak position going into the election cycle. it was either all in or not. Quote
Boges Posted March 26, 2020 Report Posted March 26, 2020 He's kind of being overshadowed by his State Governor counterparts. It's not even like he could even "Open America" anyway. Each state has to decide, on their own, if they can start opening businesses. The Daily Press Briefings are just stand-ins for the Rallies he can't do anymore. Quote
taxme Posted March 26, 2020 Report Posted March 26, 2020 18 hours ago, godzilla said: just can't make this shit up. I think that most of the "shit" that you post here is "shit". The virus will not take down Trump, but I do believe and hope that this virus does take down your dear commie leader your prime mistake of Canuckistan. Whenever i see a picture of that fool, the word stupid always comes to mind. But hey! Quote
taxme Posted March 26, 2020 Report Posted March 26, 2020 18 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: What do I think ? I think John Hinckley Jr. fired six shots towards a popular President Ronald Reagan on March 30, 1981. Thank God that idiot did not complete his mission of assassinating President Reagan. During the time of Reagan's presidency, communism in Russia came to an end. Only Republicans can save the world from communism and I do believe that President Trump will end Chinese and North Korea communism especially if he gets another four more years to do so. Liberals, democrats and socialists will only try and bring communism to we the freedom fighters of the world. Today the war is now going on between Trump and freedom and the globalists who want world globalist communism. What do you think about that? But it is for sure that this made up pandemic will not bring down Trump. Just saying. Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 26, 2020 Report Posted March 26, 2020 I don't think that the virus is taking Trump down, but it has given some senior Dem politicians a chance to act like adults, and be leaders, instead of just being competitors in a Trump Derangement Syndrome contest. Up until a week or so ago I didn't have anything positive to say about more than a handful of Dems. None of them were actual presidential candidates. I haven't followed Cuomo or Newsom much, but recently they've showed signs of actual leadership instead of just virtue-signalling, bitching and stupidity. Based on where they're governing, they both have a solid shot at winning the Dem primary in 4 years. They'd both chew up Biden and spit him out. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
WestCanMan Posted March 26, 2020 Report Posted March 26, 2020 6 hours ago, godzilla said: this article is a must read as it identifies specifically what was discussed earlier in this thread. whether Trump, the authoritarian leader, would take the bull by the horns and run with this opportunity for absolute federal power. Trump Is an Authoritarian Weakman "Coronavirus would be the perfect opportunity for an autocrat. Trump isn’t taking it." "But the stylistic question—how much ability Trump has to tailor his brand of politics to fit new circumstances and meet new demands—may well have been settled decisively in this crisis. The answer is no." i'm proposing that this puts him in a weak position going into the election cycle. it was either all in or not. That article is a mix of stupidity and trash. Trump isn't an autocrat, and he is taking on a positive leadership role, instead of selling fear-mongering to seize control. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Rue Posted March 26, 2020 Report Posted March 26, 2020 I dislike Trump but his handling of the virus is in my opinion is respectful of doctors and dead on about the fear mongering. Quote
godzilla Posted March 27, 2020 Author Report Posted March 27, 2020 we're at the very beginning of a logarithmic curve, man... check it out, the curve is a rocket going straight up: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ do the math. for every 100M infected there will be 2M dead. its unknown how many will be infected in the first wave. but without immediate severe action then it could easily be 1/4 to 2/3's of the population in the US. 1/3 gives you the 2M dead. i'm not really sure what "fear mongering" people are talking about. 1 Quote
Rue Posted March 27, 2020 Report Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, godzilla said: we're at the very beginning of a logarithmic curve, man... check it out, the curve is a rocket going straight up: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ do the math. for every 100M infected there will be 2M dead. its unknown how many will be infected in the first wave. but without immediate severe action then it could easily be 1/4 to 2/3's of the population in the US. 1/3 gives you the 2M dead. i'm not really sure what "fear mongering" people are talking about. No you are in fact not at the begnning you assume that but you do not have all the unreported cases to be able to say tthat. Next ff course the curve goes straight up how else would it go...with due respect can you please find out how viruses replicate and are transmitted and understand they all do this and that movement by itself whether you "flatten" it or allow it to more quickly rise, still goes up to the same level and in the same direction. Speed of that rise is not necessarily what makes it lethal either that is a subjective speculation based on an assumption it kills at rates based on only reported cases. It also comes down the same way, when people grow immune to the disease and if you delay them growing immune to the disease it can ot come down try grasp that reality. What people are talking about is you do not understand that the fact something goes straight up does not mean everyone dies or will die but f you do not allow it to go up to where it belongs it can't go down to where we want it to. In any virus there is a peak. You seem to think this is something unique and are alarmed at the concept of viruses peaking. You are taking a pattern and snap shotting it going up not understanding your data to start with is not even accurate as it does not include the thousands of unreported cases that already added to it and saw recovery. For all you know the straight up is far straighter up than you see and is now coming down but because the cases were never reported you can't see it on your graph. That is why people like me say its fear-mongering. You panic over it gong straight up and prefer it rising slowly to make you feel more safe. Edited March 27, 2020 by Rue Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted March 27, 2020 Report Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) On 3/26/2020 at 9:26 AM, Boges said: Pelosi isn't holding up anything. The Senate Dems held up McConnel's bill because half of it was a Corporate Slush Fund. The idiocy of Repubs thinking that this bailout will make people quit their jobs just for the bennies is mind-boggling. People don't get EI when they quit their jobs. She is the one holding it up dummy. The Senate passed that shit already, just when I think you can't get any more deranged against Republicans, you find a way. The Democrats are the only one's who voted against the bill, and at her behest. If she's smart she'll knock it off today and just get it passed already. Edited March 27, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Boges Posted March 27, 2020 Report Posted March 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: She is the one holding it up dummy. The Senate passed that shit already, just when I think you can't get any more deranged against Republicans, you find a way. The House has already passed a bill https://globalnews.ca/news/6729088/coronavirus-trump-emergency-bill/ Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted March 27, 2020 Report Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Boges said: The House has already passed a bill https://globalnews.ca/news/6729088/coronavirus-trump-emergency-bill/ The Senate passed the bill, Pelosi demanded Senate Dems hold it up, and Schumer listened to her, but she gets a pass because she's a Democrat and it's all Mitch McConnell's fault. Edited March 27, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Boges Posted March 27, 2020 Report Posted March 27, 2020 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: She's holding up a far more important bill. And there'll be a vote today. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/27/politics/coronavirus-stimulus-house-vote/index.html Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted March 27, 2020 Report Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Boges said: And there'll be a vote today. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/27/politics/coronavirus-stimulus-house-vote/index.html Yeah and if she wises up, then Pelosi will stop obstructing. The whole reason they are voting today, is because she refused to allow a vote until today, she could have moved this along quicker, and chose not to. Pretending it's McConnell's fault is Republican Derangement Syndrome, and total pro-Democrat partisan hackery. Not a single Republican voted against the bill, lots of Senate Democrats did, and they voted against it, because Pelosi told them to, they were totally on board until she told them to hold it up, and then they finally caved and voted for it after successfully holding it up in the Senate. Edited March 27, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Boges Posted March 27, 2020 Report Posted March 27, 2020 37 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Yeah and if she wises up, then Pelosi will stop obstructing. The whole reason they are voting today, is because she refused to allow a vote until today, she could have moved this along quicker, and chose not to. Pretending it's McConnell's fault is Republican Derangement Syndrome, and total pro-Democrat partisan hackery. Not a single Republican voted against the bill, lots of Senate Democrats did, and they voted against it, because Pelosi told them to, they were totally on board until she told them to hold it up, and then they finally caved and voted for it after successfully holding it up in the Senate. They voted against it because it include a half a billion dollar slush fund for corporations. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted March 27, 2020 Report Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Boges said: They voted against it because it include a half a billion dollar slush fund for corporations. So? They held it up because it wasn't Anti-Business enough. That's a ridiculous reason to hold it up, only a Demohack would think otherwise. Edited March 27, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Boges Posted March 27, 2020 Report Posted March 27, 2020 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: So? They held it up because it wasn't Anti-Business enough. That's a ridiculous reason to hold it up. Corporations don't need the help here, they've been sitting on stockpiles of cash since the recovery started. The people who are losing their jobs en masse need it. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted March 27, 2020 Report Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Boges said: Corporations don't need the help here, they've been sitting on stockpiles of cash since the recovery started. The people who are losing their jobs en masse need it. It's not either or. In fact the new bill unanimously passed in the Senate still gives money to both, proving that point. Basically you don't want the bill helping more than just those you deem to need it, and if it does, you're willing to hurt the people who really need it in order to make sure corporations don't get it. Some friend of the people who need it you are. Edited March 27, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Boges Posted March 27, 2020 Report Posted March 27, 2020 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: It's not either or. In fact the new bill unanimously passed in the Senate still gives money to both. After more deliberation. Last weekend McConnell kicked out the Dems and wrote his own bill. So obviously it failed. Then they collaborated and finally got a bill passed. It's actually a great (and seemingly rare) example of bipartisanship. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted March 27, 2020 Report Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) You'd rather punish the rich than help the poor. As shown by your support of holding up the help for the poor because the rich get help too. Edited March 27, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted March 27, 2020 Report Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Boges said: After more deliberation. Last weekend McConnell kicked out the Dems and wrote his own bill. So obviously it failed. Then they collaborated and finally got a bill passed. It's actually a great (and seemingly rare) example of bipartisanship. The Dems were on board with McConnell's bill, until Nancy Pelosi said she wasn't then they changed their mind and held it up. It's actually an example of extreme partisanship before feigning bi-partisanship, and you fell for the feint, while ignoring what proceeded it. Edited March 27, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote
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