Rue Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, Dougie93 said: No. This is a novel virus with multiple strains, you can catch it over and over and you can catch different strains of it Don't get cocky. False and one of many misleading statements many make on this virus. Blame Trump I guess. Edited March 31, 2020 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, Dougie93 said: It has mutated many times, it's mutating in real time, most mutations are harmless, but it is working the problem all the time The protein spikes on a Coronavirus are like lock picks, they pick the locks to your cells When it encounters antibodies, it doesn't capitulate, it works the problem The lock picks try something new, until they hit something that works again Mutating does not mean you are no longer immune to it..it could in fact mean the opposite... Edited March 31, 2020 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, Dougie93 said: Yes it is. Our immunity to the Common Cold has been built up for literally millions of years We can't stop the Common Cold. it's diabolical, but we all have inherent immunity built up against, over generations This is the Super Cold, and it was just born a few months ago, it has mutated as it goes, you haven't built up immunity to all of it, even if you've caught some of it Moreover, if you catch it, you are a spreading it to others who haven't caught it yet. The common cold can be caused by literally an infinite no.of infections, some viruses, some bacterial, some from fungus...medicine aint yourcstrong point..stick to guns... Edited March 31, 2020 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 25 minutes ago, Rue said: The common cold can be caused by literally an infinite no.of infections, some viruses, some bacterial, some from fungus...medicine aint yourcstrong point..stick to guns... The Common Cold is not caused by infinite infections, it's either picorn, rhino, or most most dangerous strain, which is coronavirus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 33 minutes ago, Rue said: Mutating does not mean you are no longer immune to it..it could in fact mean the opposite... The protein spikes are like lockpicks, when they encounter antibodies, they work the problem, antibodies are actually the thing which incites the dangerous mutations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: The Common Cold is not caused by infinite infections, it's either picorn, rhino, or most most dangerous strain, which is coronavirus Yes it can be caused by many phenomena not just the three sources you mentioned. Go find out, not my job to get you to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 36 minutes ago, Rue said: False and one of many misleading statements many make on this virus. Blame Trump I guess. Again, the corona on the virus can change, then it is something new which you are not immune to This is what happened in 1919, the Spanish Flu at this point in 1919 was mild, in October of 1919 it found another gear and that's when the megadeath ensued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: The protein spikes are like lockpicks, when they encounter antibodies, they work the problem, antibodies are actually the thing which incites the dangerous mutations ..anti bodies do not just incite dangerous mutations.. Edited March 31, 2020 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, Rue said: And? The longer the virus is in play without a vaccine, the higher the odds of a dangerous mutation Reason being, if you don't kill it, you just make it stronger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, Dougie93 said: The longer the virus is in play without a vaccine, the higher the odds of a dangerous mutation Reason being, if you don't kill it, you just make it stronger ..or weaker..it depends on many variable factors.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Rue said: ..or weaker..it depends on many variable factors.... People don't realize, the Common Cold is lethal, the common coronavirus kills people in nursing homes all the time, just not at this very high rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) Sars mutated in a way that makes it harder to treat but very very difficult to be transmitted..so in one sense it became more lethal and in another sense less lethal ....so black and white all or nothing assumptions about disease and viruses is misleading and leads to false subjective assumptions.. Edited March 31, 2020 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: People don't realize, the Common Cold is lethal, the common coronavirus kills people in nursing homes all the time, just not at this very high rate It can be lethal for some and an inconsequential annoyance to others even with underlying conditions or old age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Rue said: It can be lethal for some and an inconsequential annoyance to others even with underlying conditions or old age. Well since we have no built up immunity against this novel version, it's exponentially more lethal It's like the guy who runs the nursing home out in Bobcaygeon says that they do see this all the time, they've just never seen it like this, 10 people dying over a single weekend To quote him "I've never seen anything like this, in 30 years of doing this job" Edited March 31, 2020 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 Your great Satan simply reflects what you assign it in value. Wc Fields is my Satan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rue said: Your great Satan simply reflects what you assign it in value. Wc Fields is my Satan. I don't see viruses as being evil, it's like a shark, it's just doing what it was made to do, swim & eat My wife works for a multinational, she ordered all her people to go home early on, those that kept going to the office got sick Now they have 26 people in the company who are sick, 4 confirmed cases of COVID, 2 people hospitalized already, neither of whom are old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 My wife says that one of the guys in hospital is a middle aged guy, but he's very fit, he doesn't smoke, he doesn't have underlying conditions His wife says that he went from having a cough in the morning to not being able to breath by that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Well since we have no built up immunity against this novel version, it's exponentially more lethal It's like the guy who runs the nursing home out in Bobcaygeon says that they do see this all the time, they've just never seen it like this, 10 people dying over a single weekend To quote him "I've never seen anything like this, in 30 years of doing this job" That is the very point, he has limited subjective perspective and he was probably crying out loud so to speak. I am sure he did not do it to make you fear what he saw...he was showing respect for the dead... You choose to repeat his words and not the words of say someone who has treated things far worse, I.e., Ebola, Sars, Aids, Zeka, Cholera, etc., because you choose to assign his momentary here and now observation for the vision of your Satan. When someone wakes up crying from a nightmare, no point repeating what they saw unless you are their therapist..even then you have to be careful how you repeat it for any good to come out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rue said: That is the very point, he has limited subjective perspective and he was probably crying out loud so to speak. I am sure he did not do it to make you fear what he saw...he was showing respect for the dead... You choose to repeat his words and not the words of say someone who has treated things far worse, I.e., Ebola, Sars, Aids, Zeka, Cholera, etc., because you choose to assign his momentary here and now observation for the vision of your Satan. When someone wakes up crying from a nightmare, no point repeating what they saw unless you are their therapist..even then you have to be careful how you repeat it for any good to come out of it. Whatever, I've said my peace on it, if you want to, go out into the hot zone and dance with the bug, it's not my problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Shady said: Sort of. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/germany-coronavirus-death-rate-reasons-1.5513816 From link- If Germany has an advantage in the fight against COVID-19, it has probably been in its testing, with close to one million people swabbed and analyzed over the past three weeks and lab capacity now up to half-a-million samples per week. More testing, more mild cases found, lower death rate out of total. The German numbers are close to US numbers on the rate. This is a very low rate, and probably the best data we have from all countries. Edited March 31, 2020 by OftenWrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: From link- If Germany has an advantage in the fight against COVID-19, it has probably been in its testing, with close to one million people swabbed and analyzed over the past three weeks and lab capacity now up to half-a-million samples per week. More testing, more mild cases found, lower death rate out of total. The German numbers are close to US numbers on the rate. This is a very low rate, and probably the best data we have from all countries. "We are very well aware that in a couple of weeks, we may be in big trouble." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzilla Posted April 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 hilarious. Fox has done a 180 in three days! On Fox News, suddenly a very different tune about the coronavirus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzilla Posted April 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 The Trump death panels! How hospitals will decide who lives and who dies in the COVID-19 crisis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 14 hours ago, godzilla said: hilarious. Fox has done a 180 in three days! On Fox News, suddenly a very different tune about the coronavirus That's tunny coming from the Washington Post, who initially downplayed the virus themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzilla Posted April 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 7 hours ago, Shady said: That's tunny coming from the Washington Post, who initially downplayed the virus themselves. more Whataboutism? can you cite anything even nearly as numerous? my favorite bit is Hannity... "lets bludgeon Trump with this new hoax", "we've never called the virus a hoax".. just classic stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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