Liberals encouraging white supremacists

[Argus]

Hey, whatever it takes to win an election! Whether that's spending billions of borrowed dollars on unneeded programs, or spending billions more to bring in elderly immigrants, or... encouraging white supremacists. If it works it's all good to a Liberal.

We've heard so much about white supremacists from the Liberals and Liberal friendly media in the last months, especially the CBC. It's not accidental. They're trying to scare people about this tiny number of people while at the same to implying, inferring, or just plain stating that the Conservatives are somehow or other in league with them, or at least sympathetic to them.

And yet, who do you think is happiest about the disgusting claims being made by the Liberals?

White supremacists.

The Liberals are providing a massive propaganda boost to white supremacist groups, by giving them far more attention and far more power in public discussion. The whole “secret support” theory is getting a huge boost by the Liberals.

This shows the danger of the increasingly desperate and unhinged rhetoric being used by Liberal politicians against Conservative Canadians.

In an attempt to gain some short term political benefit and hold onto power, the Trudeau Liberals are tearing Canada apart, providing a propaganda boost to racist groups, and undermining the unity of our nation.

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/why-are-the-trudeau-liberals-signal-boosting-white-supremacists/

Edited August 14, 2019 by Argus

[cannuck]

good link.  I certainly agree.

[eyeball]

12 hours ago, Argus said:

They're trying to scare people about this tiny number of people while at the same to implying, inferring, or just plain stating that the Conservatives are somehow or other in league with them, or at least sympathetic to them.

The real problem for Conservatives is that the supremacists are sympathetic and attracted to them.  That's not scary its hilarious.  

[scribblet]

Certainly agree with the OP.    The alleged Scheer supporter hurling racist comments was arrested and Scheer immediately condemned her because had he not said anything right away, he would have been portrayed as supporting racism etc.   Now that she is being assessed for a mental illness, they want Scheer to apologize - this is just liberal craziness. 

[Michael Hardner]

28 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's not scary its hilarious.  

Only hilarious when they have to deal with the beast.

Aaaand now Liberals calling them out is encouraging them 

Kind of like how this can of RAID encourages mosquitoes...

[eyeball]

17 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Only hilarious when they have to deal with the beast.

Should be easy enough to dissuade supramicsts from cozying up to you,  just increase immigration and embrace replacement theory.

[scribblet]

White supremacy is pretty much irrelevant in Canada but due to the Liberals and media perpetuating the idea that it is prevalent, mainly within the conservative party of course, the idea is gaining traction as they tell people it is important and it is a problem.    The very notion that a tiny % of Canadians believe outside the mainstream lines should not be alarming, it shows we have some freedom of thought and ideas but not acceptable to the majority. 

 

The liberal left is deliberately and unethically blurring the lines between the very few actual white supremacists and conservatives, so much so that people who buy into liberal propaganda now believe that there’s a WS under every bed and all conservatives are racist.    This obvious liberal tribalism and identity politics is morally unjustifiable, unless of course it`s an election the Liberals might lose.

 

Of course, of you think everything you disagree with is racist, then naturally the election of a party you don’t like just has to be racist.   

[dialamah]

Islamic terrorism is pretty irrelevant in Canada, yet conservative media (and posters here) make a big deal of any misdeed by any Muslim anywhere in the world, and prophesy dire consequences to Canada.  

While I agree that white supremacist attacks in Canada are rare, they happen more often than Islamic attacks.  And while nobody thinks all conservatives are racist, or even most conservatives, racist and white supremacist rhetoric and concepts are entering our media and culture through conservatives.  

And yet again here in this thread and the opening post, we see conservatives blaming "somebody else" for attitudes and behavior they support and encourage in every anti-immigrant and every anti-Muslim post they make. 

At the risk of being too reasonable, I would say that finger pointing is a major problem that prevents solutions.  Simplistically blaming either conservatives or liberals is stupid.  Conservatives are no more supportive of extremist behavior from White Supremacists than Liberals are supportive of extremist behavior from Islamists.  We're all on the same page with respect to murdering innocent people to make a political statement.  

 

 

[Shady]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

The real problem for Conservatives is that the supremacists are sympathetic and attracted to them.  That's not scary its hilarious.  

Ditto for Liberals and NDP attracting Islamic extremists and anti-semites.  Except it’s not hilarious.

[Shady]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Only hilarious when they have to deal with the beast.

Aaaand now Liberals calling them out is encouraging them 

Kind of like how this can of RAID encourages mosquitoes...

Kinda of like the Liberals and NDP with Islamic extremists and anti-semites.

[scribblet]

9 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Islamic terrorism is pretty irrelevant in Canada, yet conservative media (and posters here) make a big deal of any misdeed by any Muslim anywhere in the world, and prophesy dire consequences to Canada.  

.....

You might note that the This Week in Islam Thread is not about Canada and it actually speaks to ongoing serious problems in Europe more so than Canada.  Canada doesn`t have the demographics, yet.

 

[dialamah]

15 minutes ago, scribblet said:

You might note that the This Week in Islam Thread is not about Canada and it actually speaks to ongoing serious problems in Europe more so than Canada.  Canada doesn`t have the demographics, yet.

If the concern among posters on the Islam thread is that Islamic extremism will spread in Canada, why is there not a similar concern about white supremacy extremism spreading?  If white supremacist attacks are increasing in Europe and the States, faster than Islamic attacks, why no concern among conservatives?  Why do they instead ignore, dismiss or downplay those attacks?  If liberals* are wrong for ignoring, dismissing or downplaying Islamic attacks around the world, are conservatives* any less wrong for doing the same when it comes to white supremacy extremism?

If Canadians reject extremism, then rejecting White Supremacy extremism is just as important as rejecting Islamic extremism, don't you think?  

*among those who do

Edited August 14, 2019 by dialamah

[eyeball]

15 minutes ago, Shady said:

Kinda of like the Liberals and NDP with Islamic extremists and anti-semites.

Well,  the only way to do anything about climate change is to enshrine Sharia in the constitution.

[Shady]

18 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Well,  the only way to do anything about climate change is to enshrine Sharia in the constitution.

Oh, and for whatever reason, violent criminals tend to favour Liberals and NDP too.

[Argus]

2 hours ago, dialamah said:

Islamic terrorism is pretty irrelevant in Canada, yet conservative media (and posters here) make a big deal of any misdeed by any Muslim anywhere in the world, and prophesy dire consequences to Canada.  

Irrelevant? There have been any number of attacks and attempted attacks. That's hardly irrelevant.

2 hours ago, dialamah said:

While I agree that white supremacist attacks in Canada are rare, they happen more often than Islamic attacks. 

There was one that I can recall. Maybe you can come up with more?

For Islamic attacks, just off the top of my head there's the guy who ran down a cop in Edmonton and ran over other pedestrians, the guy who stabbed three soldiers, the gang that wanted to blow up the CN tower, the guys who were planning on derailing a train, the guy who ran over a soldier in Quebec, the guy who shot a soldier in Ottawa and ran into Parliament, the guy who was blown up with his bomb in a taxi when police confronted him. I'm sure if I googled I'd get plenty more.

But kudos for you finding yet another excuse to frantically insert "MUSLIMS ARE COMPLETELY PEACEFUL!!" into a conversation which didn't even mention them.

2 hours ago, dialamah said:

And yet again here in this thread and the opening post, we see conservatives blaming "somebody else" for attitudes and behavior they support and encourage in every anti-immigrant and every anti-Muslim post they make. 

And yet again we see the progressive types insinuating that any opposition to mass immigration and any protest against illegal immigrants flooding into Canada is akin to supporting white supremacy. And need I mention again nobody even mentioned Muslims until you brought the topic up?

 

 

[Argus]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

If the concern among posters on the Islam thread is that Islamic extremism will spread in Canada, why is there not a similar concern about white supremacy extremism spreading?

Because we're not bringing a hundred thousand far-right people into the country every year the way we are Muslims. Because all the 'white supremacists' in Canada could meet in a restaurant while Muslims are becoming the largest minority group in the country.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, Shady said:

Oh, and for whatever reason, violent criminals tend to favour Liberals and NDP too.

For the obvious reason Liberals and NDP are least likely to want to punish them, and most likely to appoint tender-hearted judges who smile, tweak their cheeks, and send them back out to do more crime.

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

The real problem for Conservatives is that the supremacists are sympathetic and attracted to them.  That's not scary its hilarious.  

What a stupid comment. You could just as easily say that islamic terrorists and their supporters are attracted to the Liberals, and it's 1,000% true. Not one single terrorist or terrorist supporter would ever vote against the Liberals. And for very good reason.

[dialamah]

16 minutes ago, Argus said:

Because we're not bringing a hundred thousand far-right people into the country every year the way we are Muslims. Because all the 'white supremacists' in Canada could meet in a restaurant while Muslims are becoming the largest minority group in the country.

They're already here, even if they don't recognize themselves.  And their ranks are growing, rationalized by statements like "if only there weren't so many brown people in the country, white people wouldn't be so upset!  It's the liberals fault that white people are turning to violence!"  Kinda like what you've done here.

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, dialamah said:

They're already here, even if they don't recognize themselves.  And their ranks are growing, rationalized by statements like "if only there weren't so many brown people in the country, white people wouldn't be so upset!  It's the liberals fault that white people are turning to violence!"  Kinda like what you've done here.

 

You're our Hedy Fry...that's for sure.

[eyeball]

31 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

What a stupid comment.

Go piss up a rope.

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, Shady said:

Kinda of like the Liberals and NDP with Islamic extremists and anti-semites.

So the conservatives are to blame for those I guess...

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

So the conservatives are to blame for those I guess...

 

Islam is a big boy. Islam is responsible for Islam. 

[dialamah]

23 minutes ago, Argus said:

Irrelevant? There have been any number of (Islamic) attacks and attempted attacks. That's hardly irrelevant.

"Any number" = Six.

27 minutes ago, Argus said:

There was one that I can recall. Maybe you can come up with more?

Every news story about a white person verbally or physically attacking a Muslim, Jew, South Asian, brown or black person.  White Supremacy gone mainstream, thanks to constant barrage of BS from alt-right sources, making people feel justified in harassing people who "look" different.  

In terms of deadliness, since 2014, 19 people have died as a result of right-wing terror attacks in Canada.   (Link)  in the same period, two people have died as a result of Islamic terror attacks.  (Link)

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, dialamah said:

Islamic terrorism is pretty irrelevant in Canada, yet conservative media (and posters here) make a big deal of any misdeed by any Muslim anywhere in the world, and prophesy dire consequences to Canada.  

While I agree that white supremacist attacks in Canada are rare, they happen more often than Islamic attacks.  And while nobody thinks all conservatives are racist, or even most conservatives, racist and white supremacist rhetoric and concepts are entering our media and culture through conservatives.  

And yet again here in this thread and the opening post, we see conservatives blaming "somebody else" for attitudes and behavior they support and encourage in every anti-immigrant and every anti-Muslim post they make. 

At the risk of being too reasonable, I would say that finger pointing is a major problem that prevents solutions.  Simplistically blaming either conservatives or liberals is stupid.  Conservatives are no more supportive of extremist behavior from White Supremacists than Liberals are supportive of extremist behavior from Islamists.  We're all on the same page with respect to murdering innocent people to make a political statement.  

 

 

Muslims did a car attack against uniformed soldiers in Mtl, the attack at the Parliament and the Dan Cirillo, and two attacks in Toronto which combined to kill approximately 20 people. 

If these white supremacist attacks happen more often then that then you must be able to cite at least 5 from the last few years, and a significant body count. Otherwise you’re a liar.

I didnt even include all the people who went and committed genocide and helped force women into slavery in Syria and Iraq, or Omar Khadr. You just need to name 5 dialamah.