BeaverFever Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: Nobody trusts you...now what? Perhaps call them names? Cancel them from polite society? How about not addressing their concerns? All seem prudent choices for you to make. Which one first? Nobody trusts you because you’ve repeatedly proven yourself to be trustworthy. Let me ask you this because so far none of your esteemed colleagues have been able ro answer Do you believe that for EVERY election from now on, the loser should ALWAYS allege massive widespread fraud demand investigations, question the integrity of the election system? Should the entire country give the loser benefit of the doubt every time and not assume he’s just doing it because he lost? Like we should just make this part of the normal election process now? Because that’s what going to happen. Im not saying he shouldn’t be allowed to file these baseless lawsuits, which will all fail. I’m saying Republicans should have the decency to not file them since they know they’re all bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: Didn't happen. But this did: Your claim is a lie. Like the one where CNN showed a fireworks display for an annual British fireworks night and claimed it was to celebrate Biden's "win." Your guys lie and then you're trained to believe the lie. Yeah that’s the standard Republican MO, play both sides: walk back your lies when you’re under oath or could get in trouble for lying....then go on YouTube where you’re not under oarh and walk back your previous walk-back. “I got played” lol Edited November 12, 2020 by BeaverFever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 58 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: YouTube seems to want to make this one disappear but people keep putting it up. Let's see if Donald Trump can make it stick this time: Basically Tucker is producing evidence of dead people voting: Carlson's claims come as the Trump campaign is mounting legal challenges to election results in some states amid unsubstantiated allegations of voter fraud, some advanced by the president himself. There has been no evidence of voter fraud in the 2020 election and no proof of Carlson's specific claim that dead people somehow cast ballots in several states, including all-important Pennsylvania. Carlson claimed "nearly 3,000 potentially deceased voters" stayed on voter rolls there, according to a December 2019 report. Philadelphia City Commissioner Al Schmidt, a Republican, dismissed the idea during an interview on Wednesday. "I have seen the most fantastical things on social media, making completely ridiculous allegations that have no basis in fact at all and seen them spread," Schmidt told CNN. Schmidt highlighted "a long list of people that they said were dead voters who voted in Philadelphia. So, when we took a break between everything else that we're doing, we looked it up, each one of them, to see what their vote history was. Not a single one of them voted in Philadelphia after they died." An Associated Press report on Wednesday noted that claims about dead people voting come up at every election, but experts say there is no evidence for it. In some cases, voters simply have the same name and birth date as a deceased person. Minor errors in voter rolls, such as incorrect years of birth, can also suggest voters are too old to be alive. https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-claims-dead-people-voted-2020-election-1546785 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Yeah that’s the standard Republican MO, play both sides: walk back your lies when you’re under oath or could get in trouble for lying....then go on YouTube where you’re not under oarh and walk back your previous walk-back. “I got played” lol Oh for God's sake. Watch the video. They have a recording of the actual investigators interrogating the guy. You can go here to see the whole thing: https://www.projectveritas.com/ Or if you real brave you can watch this one: Quote Marine Veteran & USPS Whistleblower Richard Hopkins Stands By Original Account: I Did Not Recant; Hopkins Describes More Than Three Hours Kept in Room Without Lawyer or Union Rep With Post Office Agents https://www.projectveritas.com/news/marine-veteran-and-usps-whistleblower-richard-hopkins-stands-by-original/ He didn't recant. They're lying to you and if you you insist on telling us he did without viewing the evidence they you are lying to us. This lie from the left, concerning the UPS investigation of the Whistle Blower, is well known to the rightosphere. I was waiting for it. And again, you walked right into it. Thanks again, I guess. Edited November 12, 2020 by Infidel Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 As to Al Schmidt, that fight over whether or not there's evidence of dead people voting will eventually be decided in the Supreme court. For now, here's Trump's reply to newsweek. Quote A guy named Al Schmidt, a Philadelphia Commissioner and so-called Republican (RINO), is being used big time by the Fake News Media to explain how honest things were with respect to the Election in Philadelphia. He refuses to look at a mountain of corruption & dishonesty. We win! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 11, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) BTW, I don't know what video Newsweek watched but in the one I watched Tucker offered evidence of dead people voting in Georgia not Philadelphia, then he said he didn't know how much of that there was but the fact that it exists means it needs to be further investigated and it also means the claim there is no evidence of voter fraud is a lie. Edited November 12, 2020 by Infidel Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 It isn't just Trump now. Somebody else is suing in Detroit concerning the shenanigins at the TFC. Quote The Great Lakes Justice Center complaint provides “eyewitness accounts and direct evidence” that “approximately 40,000” unsecured, irregular ballots arrived in vehicles with out-of-state license plates at Detroit’s only vote-counting location, TCF Center, in the wee hours of the Nov. 4 morning during a shift change in election workers. Eyewitnesses signed affidavits saying that every one of this group of 40,000 ballots they saw “was counted orally and attributed only to Democratic candidates,” specifically Joe Biden. Other eyewitnesses signed affidavits under penalty of perjury stating they saw multiple other piles of ballots, together additionally numbering in the tens of thousands, that were counted despite violating election law, sometimes at the direction of local election officials. This allegedly happened both before the election, during early voting, and during the election and subsequent vote count. https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/12/lawsuit-claims-40000-plus-fraudulent-ballots-pumped-through-detroit-for-joe-biden/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Fleccas from Fleccas talks replies to CNN debunking a list of dead people voting that nobody had heard of with a list of his own accompanied by checkable verification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 A lot of people are making and checking these lists now. I'm still anxious to see what happens when "Maidengate" finishes theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 15 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: So here you are incensed that Trump deferred out of Viet-Nam when Biden did the exact same thing...understood. You do realize that in 1969 or so...being against war was the fashionable position to take...unlike the pro-war Democrats of today. Biden was in university at the time and all university students got a deferral. He also has asthma in addition to a stutter so was deferred regardless. Trump paid off a doctor to claim he had bone spurs, which mysteriously never appeared again in his life. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, Argus said: Biden was in university at the time and all university students got a deferral. He also has asthma in addition to a stutter so was deferred regardless. Trump paid off a doctor to claim he had bone spurs, which mysteriously never appeared again in his life. The BOTH deferred...suddenly you're all pro-war in Viet-Nam, eh? Which war do you hope for next? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: The BOTH deferred...suddenly you're all pro-war in Viet-Nam, eh? Which war do you hope for next? A war against stupid. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Argus said: A war against stupid. Too bad it wasn't hypocrisy. 2 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 I wonder is it compulsory for the leaving President to attend the inauguration of his successor. Even if it isn't it would be very poor conduct not to do so unless stopped by a genuine reason like illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, -TSS- said: I wonder is it compulsory for the leaving President to attend the inauguration of his successor. It is not required, and has happened at least three times before....John Adams in 1801, John Quincy Adams in 1829 and Andrew Johnson in 1869. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: It is not required, and has happened at least three times before....John Adams in 1801, John Quincy Adams in 1829 and Andrew Johnson in 1869. There is no way in hell Trump is showing up to his successor's inauguration. There is no way he's going to concede. He'll continue to say the election was stolen without regard to evidence. Nor will he meet with Biden the way Obama did with him prior to the turnover. He will get in the helicopter and fly off to Mar a lago without a word, sullen and resentful to the end. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Argus said: There is no way in hell Trump is showing up to his successor's inauguration. There is no way he's going to concede. That is Trump's choice...Obama also said that Trump would never be president. Trump is just another U.S. president, and he will become another ex-U.S. president. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, Argus said: There is no way in hell Trump is showing up to his successor's inauguration. There is no way he's going to concede. He'll continue to say the election was stolen without regard to evidence. Nor will he meet with Biden the way Obama did with him prior to the turnover. He will get in the helicopter and fly off to Mar a lago without a word, sullen and resentful to the end. Yep. Not to worry for Donald Trump. Just think of the TV contracts he can get now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 Donald Trump lived by the sword, and thus shall etc... but at least he did effect certain changes in terms of globalism, balance of trade, balance of defence spending. Hopefully Joe Biden won't undo all of that out of spite. But he will. Looks like for the next 4 years, we'll be Biden our time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Donald Trump lived by the sword, and thus shall etc... but at least he did effect certain changes in terms of globalism, balance of trade, balance of defence spending. Hopefully Joe Biden won't undo all of that out of spite. But he will. Looks like for the next 4 years, we'll be Biden our time. This could be four years everybody will regret. There's still a bit of time to prevent the disaster...I'll point out. Just wait until the first Dem gets bit by his/her own 1984 play book...now they have nobody to blame but themselves. The ANTIFA/BLM riots will continue...only bolder than before since they apparently survived under adversity...think they like Joe? Guess again... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: This could be four years everybody will regret. There's still a bit of time to prevent the disaster...I'll point out. Just wait until the first Dem gets bit by his/her own 1984 play book...now they have nobody to blame but themselves. The ANTIFA/BLM riots will continue...only bolder than before since they apparently survived under adversity...think they like Joe? Guess again... So if riots happen under Biden they’ll be Bidens fault. But if they happen under Trump they’re...whose fault? No leader of a democratic country has been so despised by his own people as Trump is, and that hatred energizes anti-establishment protests like BLM and draws in support from people who usually prefer not to get involved or pick a side Trump is just gasoline on the fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 5 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: This could be four years everybody will regret. There's still a bit of time to prevent the disaster...I'll point out. Just wait until the And yet what can anyone do? The American voter hath spoken. Now shall they eat American pie. I think you'll see the same old same old come back again, because, the System does not give a crap about the real issues of the man in the street. They are in for the big money. So while Democrats talk a good talk and know how to give liberals a good old reach around, it'll be back to business as usual. Feel good about yourselves, because you care so much. Look, media madness is already dying down. Dems now want to put their raging hordes back to sleep. The upper-middle class and above, whom actually love the shutdown and the effect it has had on their lives, simply do not give a crap what Biden does. In fact, shut em down, shut em down. As long as I'm alright, jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: No leader of a democratic country has been so despised by his own people as Trump is, and that hatred energizes anti-establishment protests like BLM and draws in support from people who usually prefer not to get involved or pick a side Trump is just gasoline on the fire Patently false and very short on history for many "democratic" nations. As for BLM protests, Canada got a very good dose and Trump is not the "leader". Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 47 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Patently false and very short on history for many "democratic" nations. As for BLM protests, Canada got a very good dose and Trump is not the "leader". No we didn’t get a “very good dose”. Our cities didn’t burn and the protests were both peaceful and relatively shot lived Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 14, 2020 Report Share Posted November 14, 2020 1 minute ago, BeaverFever said: No we didn’t get a “very good dose”. Our cities didn’t burn and the protests were both peaceful and relatively shot lived Nonsense....there were riots and property damage in Montreal with arrests...hardly peaceful. Businesses in Toronto were boarded up as well. Trump is just another U.S. president...get over it. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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