-TSS- Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, sharkman said: Not really. Trump got 71 million votes. That's more than ANY other sitting president in history. Indeed. How many of those votes were given to Trump in particular compared to how many of them were given to a Republican Presidential candidate. Trump has little gratitude towards the Republicans so he can take on a role of being something of an opposition-leader even though he has no position whatsoever in the party. The worst nightmare the Republicans really imagine now is that Trump doesn't go away quietly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, -TSS- said: Indeed. How many of those votes were given to Trump in particular compared to how many of them were given to a Republican Presidential candidate. Trump has little gratitude towards the Republicans so he can take on a role of being something of an opposition-leader even though he has no position whatsoever in the party. The worst nightmare the Republicans really imagine now is that Trump doesn't go away quietly. I would beg to differ. The worst nightmare is a Biden/Harris presidency. I'm pretty sure that all of the presidential votes given were for Trump, he was named on all ballots. Just to add to my previous comment of 71 million votes, he got 63.9 million votes in 2016. His increase this time out is breathtaking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Footage from last night's Battle of the Hyatt in Washington DC. Democrat Antifa attempts to attack the hotels where rally goers are staying...Trump supporters beat the everluvin' crap out of them all. It's bloody beautiful...enjoy. Only the cops were able to save Antifa's bacon there. Wonder if you could have been there with a petition to "defund the police" just before the wave hit them if Antifa would have still been in a hurry to sign it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, -TSS- said: Indeed. How many of those votes were given to Trump in particular compared to how many of them were given to a Republican Presidential candidate. Trump has little gratitude towards the Republicans so he can take on a role of being something of an opposition-leader even though he has no position whatsoever in the party. The worst nightmare the Republicans really imagine now is that Trump doesn't go away quietly. You're sounding a bit like Anne Coulter. She gave a speech the other night where she was saying it might be a good thing for the republican party if Trump loses this time and they could have Trumpism (you know, America first and all that) without Trump. Not sure, I'm on board with that. I'd worry stuff like free speech, property rights, the final protection of the second amendment, and small business in a market economy could not survive within four years of power given to the techno fascists, globalists and Progressive Socialists pulling the strings being Biden/Harris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 On the other hand, if the coup is successful I hope Trump at least switches from Twitter to Parler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, sharkman said: I would beg to differ. The worst nightmare is a Biden/Harris presidency. I'm pretty sure that all of the presidential votes given were for Trump, he was named on all ballots. Just to add to my previous comment of 71 million votes, he got 63.9 million votes in 2016. His increase this time out is breathtaking. I heard an interesting theory. Take what happened at the TFC in Detroit, example. They said the polls were shut down for the night so everybody went to sleep. What followed was kind of a nightmare version of the story of the elves and the shoe-maker. At 4 in the morning a mass of elves street people arrived at the TFC pulling wagons, carrying sacks or coolers full of ballots. Somebody had to have called them. (It would be nice to know who that was.) The theory goes that the voting machine fraud fix wasn't quite getting it done so they had to call the ballot box stuffer army they were holding in reserve. If true that shows you how much Trump must have actually been ahead. Edited November 15, 2020 by Infidel Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Yup, I'm pretty sure that incident has been documented in the affidavits being presented to the courts. Apparently 4 am was picked because it was before the morning shift showed up. There's a guy in another forum I frequent who seems really connected with all of this stuff. I brought up the PA fraud, and he claims that 600,000 PA mail in ballots will be thrown out. Time will tell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 2 hours ago, -TSS- said: Trump has little gratitude towards the Republicans so he can take on a role of being something of an opposition-leader even though he has no position whatsoever in the party. The worst nightmare the Republicans really imagine now is that Trump doesn't go away quietly. Trump will backstab the Republican party the instant he feels it's in his interest to do so, the same way he's doing to FOX, which basically created him. Now he will try to set himself up with some kind of cable Newsmax type outfit and will attack FOX to woo some of their viewers so he can make money off them. As Sam Harris pointed out, Trump demands personal loyalty but he's an extraordinarily disloyal man, and always willing to betray trusts and alliances in an instant. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said: I heard an interesting theory. Proof? Evidence? Didn't think so. Funny how courts won't accept theories in lieu of evidence. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Yeah, I guess... Still hoping the investigator's Barr says he's sending out can deliver answers to questions like who called for that army of ballot stuffers to turn up at 4 in the morning at the Detroit TFC though. There may be some theories as to why that happened but it's an absolute fact that it did happen. It's on video. Curious people are always going to wonder what was behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Right now, there's tons of evidence of irregularities. Smoking gun evidence of actual fraud is still more or less rare though. People behind Trump suggest they have such evidence and lots of it but it won't be seen until the real and final court battle begins. Maybe. Maybe not. As a watchable moment in history though it's all pretty entertaining. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Argus said: Proof? Evidence? Didn't think so. Funny how courts won't accept theories in lieu of evidence. Like I said, maybe or maybe not as to the Trump peoples' suggestion they have evidence and will produce it in court but if you doubt the veracity of the claim they are saying that, here ya go: Edited November 15, 2020 by Infidel Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Speaking of theories though, Argus, I know you don't like them but here's one you should at least be aware of, so it doesn't bite you in the ass if it happens. This one says the Trump teams allegations of voter fraud are more just sleight of hand, because winning doesn't rely on flipping states by proving voter fraud. There's another way: I've heard criticisms of that one because there's a claim she's wrong in her interpretation of how the House votes in such a case but the theory still circulates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) Wow, that video is jaw dropping. The legal strategy that the Trump team is employing is a master stroke. The only thing better than that is the revelation that 3 of the SCOTUS justices were on Dubya's legal team when he won the case against Gore. And it's all because(in 2020 election) the Democrat controlled counties in the swing states were not only committing fraud, but they were completely blatant about it. Arrogant in fact. Which makes it so obvious that some votes were given special treatment over others. Edited November 16, 2020 by sharkman grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Want to see why Biden supporters won't get away with it though? Basically here's what happened. They spit on 70 some odd million Trump voters. Then they got cocky and thought they'd drive away with a big smile on their faces. However: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeaverFever Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Infidel Dog said: Speaking of theories though, Argus, I know you don't like them but here's one you should at least be aware of, so it doesn't bite you in the ass if it happens. This one says the Trump teams allegations of voter fraud are more just sleight of hand, because winning doesn't rely on flipping states by proving voter fraud. There's another way: I've heard criticisms of that one because there's a claim she's wrong in her interpretation of how the House votes in such a case but the theory still circulates. So the TL;DR version of this theory is that Republicans’ real aim is to have several states completely disqualified from the election altogether by preventing them from certifying their results by the required deadline. Then neither candidate can achieve the necessary 270 electoral college votes and therefore under the constitution the entire election is nullified and a Republican-dominated congress would get to choose the winner, i.e. Trump So to be clear: Political elites and their lawyers, through novel and disputed legal arguments nullifying the results of the election with largest voter turnout in history.....so that other political elites in the national capital (most of whom are multimillionaires) can install the leader of their choosing (a billionaire) instead of the American people. This is the “party of the people” and “party of freedom”. ? Why not just proclaim Trump dictator foe life and outlaw all other political parties already, we know where this is heading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, bcsapper said: Sigh... Reminds me of the old days. Bradford City vs Barnsley. Vs Hartlepool or Rochdale. Vs Southampton in the FA cup. Vs Blackpool when the police just stood back and let the dogs go. Good times. Well, even football hooligans try to avoid attacking women, children and the elderly. They instead were easy targets for the roving bands of ANTIFA/BLM black-shirts. When faced with REAL opposition...men fearing for their family's safety inside the hotels...these pricks got what they deserved. That you're willing to look the other way is your choice...but remember...the mob is always hungry for witches. How pointy is your hat? Usually, that is...since you're without... Those Biden supporters that didn't quite make the rioter's grade found out...beaten & robbed by their own street thugs...how ironic. Edited November 16, 2020 by DogOnPorch 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Well, even football hooligans try to avoid attacking women, children and the elderly. They instead were easy targets for the roving bands of ANTIFA/BLM black-shirts. When faced with REAL opposition...men fearing for their family's safety inside the hotels...these pricks got what they deserved. That you're willing to look the other way is your choice...but remember...the mob is always hungry for witches. How pointy is your hat? Usually, that is...since you're without... Those Biden supporters that didn't quite make the rioter's grade found out...beaten & robbed by their own street thugs...how ironic. I'm not willing to look the other way. I like to see an antifa thug get his head kicked in as much as I like to see a fascist thug get the same. Scum at the political extremes on either wing are scum, regardless. It just took me back, is all. Edited November 16, 2020 by bcsapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 59 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I'm not willing to look the other way. I like to see an antifa thug get his head kicked in as much as I like to see a fascist thug get the same. Scum at the political extremes on either wing are scum, regardless. It just took me back, is all. She sent this...it was intended as a threat. Who is the fascist? 2 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 31 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: She sent this...it was intended as a threat. Who is the fascist? I've never seen that picture before. How do we know it was intended as a threat, other than the gaze? (which I'll admit, does seem to set her up for a good kicking. Still, I'd need more than that) Is Joe still around, and is he still opposed to defunding the police? Before we get into that, I wouldn't defund them either. Incredibly silly notion, doubly so for anyone who wants to win an election. Look at the votes Trump got. He didn't earn them. She did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Georgia's REPUBLICAN Secretary of State says other Republicans, like Lindsay Graham, are pressuring him to find a way to exclude legal Democratic ballots in the recount. Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said Monday that he has come under increasing pressure in recent days from fellow Republicans, including Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.), who he said questioned the validity of legally cast absentee ballots, in an effort to reverse President Trump’s narrow loss in the state. In a wide-ranging interview about the election, Raffensperger expressed exasperation over a string of baseless allegations coming from Trump and his allies about the integrity of the Georgia results, including claims that Dominion Voting Systems, the Colorado-based manufacturer of Georgia’s voting machines, is a “leftist” company with ties to Venezuela that engineered thousands of Trump votes to be left out of the count. The normally mild-mannered Raffensperger saved his harshest language for Rep. Douglas A. Collins (R-Ga.), who is leading the president’s efforts in Georgia and whom Raffensperger called a “liar” and a “charlatan.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/brad-raffensperger-georgia-vote/2020/11/16/6b6cb2f4-283e-11eb-8fa2-06e7cbb145c0_story.html? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Trump would have caused a disappointment for the lefties if he had fairly admitted defeat and congratulated the winner. Instead by his petulant behavior he is acting on the left's wet dream. The only thing which is missing in making the left's dream come true is that on Jan 20 Trump barricades himself in the White House and he will have to be dragged out by force. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 Finally, Trump concedes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 Trump fires the head of Homeland Security's cybersecurity agency because the man kept insisting there was no fraud. A further reminder he expects his appointees to lie on his behalf, even if it means breaking the law. WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Tuesday fired the director of the federal agency that vouched for the reliability of the 2020 election. Trump fired Christopher Krebs in a tweet, saying his recent statement defending the security of the election was “highly inaccurate.” While abrupt, the dismissal was hardly surprising. Krebs, director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, had offered a stream of statements and tweets over the past week attesting to the integrity of the election, directly contradicting Trump’s false assertions of widespread fraud without mentioning the president by name. The firing of Krebs, a Trump appointee, comes as Trump is refusing to recognize the victory of Democratic President-elect Joe Biden and removing high-level officials seen as insufficiently loyal. He fired Defense Secretary Mark Esper on Nov. 9, part of a broader shakeup that put Trump loyalists in senior Pentagon positions. https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-politics-elections-2481250f4e823dfb2a63d80569495c5c Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, Argus said: Trump fires the head of Homeland Security's cybersecurity agency because the man kept insisting there was no fraud. A further reminder he expects his appointees to lie on his behalf, even if it means breaking the law. WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Tuesday fired the director of the federal agency that vouched for the reliability of the 2020 election. Trump fired Christopher Krebs in a tweet, saying his recent statement defending the security of the election was “highly inaccurate.” While abrupt, the dismissal was hardly surprising. Krebs, director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, had offered a stream of statements and tweets over the past week attesting to the integrity of the election, directly contradicting Trump’s false assertions of widespread fraud without mentioning the president by name. The firing of Krebs, a Trump appointee, comes as Trump is refusing to recognize the victory of Democratic President-elect Joe Biden and removing high-level officials seen as insufficiently loyal. He fired Defense Secretary Mark Esper on Nov. 9, part of a broader shakeup that put Trump loyalists in senior Pentagon positions. https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-politics-elections-2481250f4e823dfb2a63d80569495c5c Yep, he's used to buying people, and he can't understand why they won't stay bought. It's the same with the courts. He appointed them, and now he's utterly baffled by their refusal to find in his favour, every single time. They're his judges, dammit! Don't they realise that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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