How dangerous is Trump?

[WestCanMan]

To be honest, I believe the Whitehouse is "Crazytown". 

There's more being done in a week in the Whitehouse than usually gets done in a month, and it's all happening under the dark cloud of the Russian investigation and with 85% of the news media making up false stories about Trump day in and day out.

[Boges]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

To be honest, I believe the Whitehouse is "Crazytown". 

There's more being done in a week in the Whitehouse than usually gets done in a month, and it's all happening under the dark cloud of the Russian investigation and with 85% of the news media making up false stories about Trump day in and day out.

Cite the accomplishments compared to other administration? 

[DogOnPorch]

On 9/5/2018 at 2:46 AM, betsy said:

How reliable is that author? 

 

Bob hopes to make lots of money...'nuff said.

[Argus]

37 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Bob hopes to make lots of money...'nuff said.

Is there any author or journalist in existence who could write something critical of Trump that you would believe? 

[Argus]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

Cite the accomplishments compared to other administration? 

And which of them were Trumps. Because I can't think of any. The budget? Well, first, it increased the deficit by a trillion dollars. Second, Trump had nothing to do with it other than making sure a little clause that helped out real estate developers was inserted. His health care plan? Turned out he had none. Supreme Court judges? Chosen by the party, not Trump, and he was told who to pick. Virtually everything done by the administration in the way of regulatory and policy changes was done by Pence, who from all accounts is the one actually running everything while Trump sleeps, golfs and watches TV.

[bush_cheney2004]

...and then there is this....

 

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Relax, President Trump: New York Times Has History of Exaggerating Seniority of Anonymous Officials

https://townhall.com/columnists/phelimmcaleer/2018/09/06/relax-president-trump-new-york-times-has-history-of-exaggerating-seniority-of-anonymous-officials-n2516340

 

 

 

 

[taxme]

22 hours ago, turningrite said:

How, exactly, do you know this? If Woodward has his sources on record, as reportedly he does and is his customary professional approach, then even if, say, half of the information contained in his book is factually correct Trump is a dangerously uninformed and erratic president.

Woodward is just another lying liberal bullshitter. He has no real sources. According to FOX News all those things that were suppose to have been said by some members of Trump's cabinet about them bad mouthing Trump is not true. Those people denied what was written in the book. I will believe what FOX News says rather than what they guy who wrote the book said. We have heard about Russia, Stormy, Amarosa, Cohen and now there is this fool who thinks that he will be able to bring down Trump. The idiot. 

Trump is only dangerously uninformed and an erratic president to the leftist liberal and democrat losers and their lying and fake leftist liberal media actors and activists who are so desperate to try to get something on Trump before the mid terms elections that they will try and come up with something. But so far not so good for them. Every other week there is another story and attack and false accusations made against Trump over something.

If you or anyone else cannot see that the losers are trying to save their rocks from exploding than you are not paying that much attention at all. Look at all the bull shit they have tried to come up with since Trump became president and all have failed. Trump is not the dangerous and erratic person here. It is all those who are trying to create trouble and lies for Trump. Trump haters need to give it a break. They need to stop continually trying to make complete asses of themselves if that is possible for them to do. 

[betsy]

Meh.  Does this anonymous so-called senior admin official exists - or, is that so-called anonymous letter a fabrication - and the writer will eternally remain anonymous?  

 

The loony left have been exhibiting such derangements over Trump - anything is now possible.

[taxme]

1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

...and then there is this....

 

 

 

 

 

But yet the Trump haters here just will never get over it and quit with the Trump bashing and will believe the  lies and false accusations that are made against Trump by such leftist lying liberal media misfits like the NYT and CNN who are in no way real sources for real news or true  and real facts. They are great for lying though. The leftist liberals and democrats are in panic mode and are trying to do everything they can to try and bring Trump down. Some people's kids. 

[taxme]

2 minutes ago, betsy said:

Meh.  Does this anonymous so-called senior admin official exists - or, is that so-called anonymous letter a fabrication - and the writer will eternally remain anonymous?  

 

The loony left have been exhibiting such derangements over Trump - anything is now possible.

Exactly. Those loony leftist liberal losers are fighting to keep their swampster lives alive and well. Woodward cannot or will not show as to who those anonymous sources are. Just more bull chit and lies, coming from another desperate swampster loser. Sadly for Trump he is surrounded by many of those lying losers. This story will go away in another couple of days like all the rest and another we got the president now story and no doubt be popping up very soon. Just wait and watch and see. They won't give it up. It's endless with these nut case swampsters. 

[taxme]

1 hour ago, Argus said:

Is there any author or journalist in existence who could write something critical of Trump that you would believe? 

How about an author that will tell the truth and not try and promote continues lies about Trump? You have to be a liberal or red Tory. You just have to be. No real conservative would attack Trump as much as you do, right liberal? Sadly, I will not be receiving a reply from you because you no doubt have put me on your ban list. What a wimp. Just saying.  

[taxme]

1 hour ago, Argus said:

And which of them were Trumps. Because I can't think of any. The budget? Well, first, it increased the deficit by a trillion dollars. Second, Trump had nothing to do with it other than making sure a little clause that helped out real estate developers was inserted. His health care plan? Turned out he had none. Supreme Court judges? Chosen by the party, not Trump, and he was told who to pick. Virtually everything done by the administration in the way of regulatory and policy changes was done by Pence, who from all accounts is the one actually running everything while Trump sleeps, golfs and watches TV.

Hey, whatever works to get liberals like you all huffy-puffy about Trump. The last I heard Trump just dropped the debt from 900 billion to 500 billion. Not bad for a real conservative, eh? I think your trillion dollar story is just that? A story full of bull shit. 

Just about all politicians try and get clauses put in somewhere where when they leave politics eventually it will be advantageous to them, especially the lawyer ones. Help create more laws and rules and regulations to help serve their needs when they leave politics. But, according to you, only Trump does thing like that, right? BS. 

Two conservative judges appointed to the Supreme court. You should be happy about that, conservative???  Our Canadian health care system is in a shambles thanks to all of this massive immigration going on in Canada. But why are you so worried about the American health care system anyway? Are you an American citizen? With Trump and Pence doing a great job you must be just going up your liberal crazy wall, eh? But hey.  

There is nothing wrong with anyone who sleeps, golfs and watches TV. I pretty much do that all the time. LOL. I bet that all you do is just eat, sleep and watch CNN or read the NYT, right? I play golf and it is great exercise. Chuckle-chuckle. 

[Boges]

11 minutes ago, taxme said:

Hey, whatever works to get liberals like you all huffy-puffy about Trump. The last I heard Trump just dropped the debt from 900 billion to 500 billion.

Do you have a cite for that? 

[taxme]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

To be honest, I believe the Whitehouse is "Crazytown". 

There's more being done in a week in the Whitehouse than usually gets done in a month, and it's all happening under the dark cloud of the Russian investigation and with 85% of the news media making up false stories about Trump day in and day out.

It's just as crazy in Ottawa also, if not worse. That place does not function properly at all anymore. Just what the hell has Trudeau done since he became the prime mistake of Chanukistan that has been all that good and great for Canada or Canadians anyway? Flooding the country with tens of thousands of legal and illegal so called refugees is all I can think about, and I do not think that it has been all that good or great for Canada or Canadians at all. More like one big gigantic waste of taxpayer's tax dollar ripoff if you ask me for the taxpayer's of this messed up leftist socialist liberal screwed up country. It's endless with the leftist liberals and the democrats in their attacking and mocking of Trump all the time. The story today is all about Woodward's book and next week there will be another bull chit story forth coming about bogeyman Trump. And the many anti Trump haters will be joining that band wagon on that story also and throwing in their two cents worth. There truly is more than just one sucker being born every day in Canada. In Canada it appears to run into the hundreds of thousands. Just saying. 

[taxme]

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

Do you have a cite for that? 

FOX News. 

[Boges]

Just now, taxme said:

FOX News. 

That's not a cite. 

[DogOnPorch]

2 hours ago, Argus said:

Is there any author or journalist in existence who could write something critical of Trump that you would believe? 

 

Bob Woodward?? C'mon...

 

He sees dollar signs.

[DogOnPorch]

Anyways...the attraction of Trump to those who do not share is that he prevented America from crowning its first hereditary queen. She was next in line for the throne, I realize...but that's not how the game is supposed to be played.

Trump will go in his due time. I suggest yoga if you have issues.

[taxme]

15 minutes ago, Boges said:

That's not a cite. 

FOX News works well for me. I do not need an actual website to report on things. But you can try going to Turning Point USA website as a source for where I can get a lot of Trump good news from or try Trump News website. Those are good for you for starters if you are interested enough to go visit and get the real and true facts from.    

 

[taxme]

11 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Anyways...the attraction of Trump to those who do not share is that he prevented America from crowning its first hereditary queen. She was next in line for the throne, I realize...but that's not how the game is supposed to be played.

Trump will go in his due time. I suggest yoga if you have issues.

Americans dodged a bullet when they elected Trump as President. Queen Hitlery would have been a disaster for Americans and the swamp would have only gotten deeper and deeper in chit with her as Queen president. Trump will be around for another 6 more years. The liberal and democrat Trump haters are in for some tough hard times ahead and it will all look good on them Aw, so sad to have to report this bad news for them. Maybe they can all run to Venezuala or some other socialist liberal country. That would give all of us nice conservatives a real break from all of their silly leftist nonsense. Works for me. 

[Boges]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

FOX News works well for me. I do not need an actual website to report on things. But you can try going to Turning Point USA website as a source for where I can get a lot of Trump good news from or try Trump News website. Those are good for you for starters if you are interested enough to go visit and get the real and true facts from.    

 

Sure, but cite the instance Fox claimed that. 

[Michael Hardner]

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

1. Best-known means squat. The whole news media from NY Times to CNN & MSNBC is pure garbage and anyone who can't catch them lying is a complete moron or they're in denial.

2. Hannity is ...

1.  Yes, and the anonymous guy on the internet who calls perhaps THE most renowned and respected journalist - about whom huge hollywood films have been made, books written, courses taught - "a useless tool"... that's you.  Mr. Anonymous.  And that's where we are in this world.  People actually listen to the opinions of anonymous people who have no idea about the history of the journalism.

Now you're going to think I'm saying that's a bad thing, but I am not saying that.  I am saying that at certain points in history, know-nothing, do-nothing masses of nobodies cause a huge impact and bring down institutions.  See Martin Luther (not King) and the French Revolution.

It's not bad.

2. Hannity is a rich rube playing poor suckers but that's beside the point.

The rest of your post represents a populist viewpoint, which does NOT matter in the least - except that in a huge amount of volume these types of opinions do matter.

Again, it's not bad.  You are part of history.  You are one of the "deplorables" and your time is now.

 

[Michael Hardner]

7 hours ago, Boges said:

If you have to pivot to Hilary instead of defending the actions of POTUS, then POTUS might be a criminal. 

He's a huge lying reprobate, and it's the biggest 'teaching moment' when you see masses of people who can listen to the tape of him talking to Woodward and think "that's the guy I want to lead the world".  It calls Democracy itself into question.  

[bush_cheney2004]

36 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

He's a huge lying reprobate.... It calls Democracy itself into question.  

 

...and that's OK..."this is what democracy looks like".

I agree that the singular political achievement of lying Donald Trump was to stop the presumed presidency and coronation of Hillary Rodham Clinton.  

Anything else is just gravy.....SC justices....Paris Climate scam....trade brinksmanship...etc.

What has been lost in all the daily grind of Trump Derangement Syndrome is the larger strategic initiative , forced by fiscal realities before Trump and nakedly pursued by his administration:   the post WW2 "grand bargain" is over, mainly because the circumstances that created it have changed forever.

Member betsy posted a Canadian (G&M) op-ed link that explains it well (thanks):

 

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But while anger or exasperation may be justified, bewilderment is less so. Ms. Freeland’s expression of “astonishment” is common among some policy makers and policy commentators. Canadians seem genuinely surprised that the President is challenging many of the basic precepts of post-Second World War internationalism.

... Canadian officials would thus be wise to understand the extent to which the President’s actions reflect a purposeful recalibration of postwar international arrangements. And it’s not likely to begin and end with him. These trends will continue post-Trump given the United States’s evolving geopolitical and economic interests. Canada will need to be ready rather than astonished.

... Start by recognizing that Mr. Trump’s questioning of international institutions and alliances isn’t wholly unjustified. Many of them were established in the context of the Cold War when the United States was prepared to assume a disproportionate share of the costs and accept some constraints on its own self-interest in exchange for containing Soviet expansionism. The context has since changed but many of these institutional and financial arrangements haven’t. Mr. Trump is now challenging what U.S. scholar Robert Kagan recently called the “grand bargain.”

As Mr. Kagan describes this bargain, the United States essentially became the main provider of security and peace in Europe and East Asia following the Second World War in exchange for global stability and an impediment to Soviet expansion. There was also an economic dimension. The United States would subsidize welfare-state spending among its allies by assuming a disproportionate share of military and security costs and support their economies by accepting asymmetrical economic relationships. This “enlightened” model became the foundation of the post-Second World War liberal order.

The model has long outlived the late and unlamented Soviet Union.

Canada must recognize that the game is changing

 

[Centerpiece]

That article in the NYT would just as correctly apply to our own "Prime Minister" and would be just as inappropriate if it was an anonymous source. Whoever the weasel is, they should have resigned and told their story. I'm sure there are any number of PMO people who make heroic efforts to keep him from sticking his foot in his mouth - with questionable results. I mean really - don't you think there are several Liberal insiders who mumble "the guy's an idiot". Remember John McKay during the campaign - the "Bozo eruption"?

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FK3e0z8Ym8 

Even Marc Garneau had plenty to say about Trudeau:

Link: https://mackaycartoons.net/tag/marc-garneau/