Thus Week in Political Correctness

[Michael Hardner]

The Climate Change drift started with a side discussion on Standing Rock, I think.  Now it's just about Climate Change...

[Guest]

We should have a random thread that is allowed to drift wherever it goes.  See what happens.

[drummindiver]

17 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

  I side with those who say it restricts religious freedom.

After some thought,  so do I. The reason being, it was originally meant to be a religious school and even though I think their dogma absurd they have the right to it. 

As the appeals  court said, it won't affect the LGBTQ community that much.

I'm interested if your stance is due to religious beliefs?

Edited December 12, 2016 by drummindiver

[Argus]

On 12/11/2016 at 0:51 PM, dialamah said:

Certainly explains the rabid Islamaphobia among the right.   It's not the barbarism and oppression they object to; it's that they're so liberal!    

And that would also explain the devotion for Islam and Sharia among Canada's Left.

[Argus]

23 hours ago, The_Squid said:

The good healthcare...

And yet whenever anyone complains about the poor quality of healthcare in Canada it is the Left here which defends the status quo.

[drummindiver]

Aldous Huxley hit the nail on the  head with Brave New World. Have to add abortion to that list of trigger words.

http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2014/05/empathetically-correct-is-the-new-politically-correct/371442/

Edited December 12, 2016 by drummindiver

[Michael Hardner]

36 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

 

I'm interested if your stance is due to religious beliefs?

Partially.  I was brought up in a very religious home, but no longer believe.  I guess there is a relationship between my background and my support of religious rights.

[dialamah]

12 minutes ago, Argus said:

And that would also explain the devotion for Islam and Sharia among Canada's Left.

I'm as devoted to Islam and Sharia as I am to Christianity and the Christian way-of-life, which is to say, not much.  

However, I'm adverse to demonizing any group; should someone come along and start bashing Christians/Jews/Sikhs/Hindus/Buddhists/Atheists the way in which you and some others like to bash Islam, I'd defend them the same.    

It pleases you to ignore what I actually do say in favor of misrepresenting me, but I've survived actual face-to-face bullying from people who didn't like me calling out their BS, so I'm sure I'll survive your little games here.

 

 

Edited December 12, 2016 by dialamah

[drummindiver]

43 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Partially.  I was brought up in a very religious home, but no longer believe.  I guess there is a relationship between my background and my support of religious rights.

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Edited December 12, 2016 by drummindiver

[DogOnPorch]

Islam is Western Civilization's historical enemy. Anything other than that is spin.

[Michael Hardner]

22 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

Read my previous post. You are experiencing emphatic correctness. 

Unclear.

[Moonlight Graham]

On 2016-12-09 at 0:01 PM, Bob Macadoo said:

I especially find it hilarious all are outraged by an opinion piece by a columnist who has made her bona fides on being "outraged" by snowflakes.  I think this is why she's switched from journalism to "outrage news" and crime books.  Easier to write.  Were not the principal, parents or third party students not available for comment?  One person's snowflake buster.....is another's qualude popper.

I'm hesitant to believe everything in the OP's story.  How do we know the whole truth here?  There's always multiple versions of events, from Blanchford's obvious bias we're only getting an anti-PC view of the story.  Was she on the scene doing reporting of this story?  Not likely.  Sounds more like hearsay.   It definitely sounds more like a blog post than actual journalism.  If what she claims is true then I'm on the side of the teacher.  But I need more than what we've been given to be convinced.

[drummindiver]

23 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I'm hesitant to believe everything in the OP's story.  How do we know the whole truth here?  There's always multiple versions of events, from Blanchford's obvious bias we're only getting an anti-PC view of the event.

What  is Blatchford's bias? Are you suggesting she's misogynist?

Edited December 13, 2016 by drummindiver

[drummindiver]

On 2016-12-12 at 1:17 PM, DogOnPorch said:

Islam is Western Civilization's historical enemy. Anything other than that is spin.

Some would say stating that is not PC. Some would say feeling that is not emphatic correctness.  IOW you should feel that it is  not politically correct.

I agree that history  does show Islam is our historical enemy. If something is true,  how can it be pc to state?

 

Edited December 14, 2016 by drummindiver

[Moonlight Graham]

9 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

What  is Blatchford's bias? Are you suggesting she's misogynist?

She's anti-PC on the issue.  That's very clear from her recent previous stories about similar issues.  She's reporting this because she's on the side of the teacher, not the student. Not that there's anything wrong with that. There's just a certain slant of the reporting, so it would be interesting to hear the "offended" student's side of the story, so we get a fuller picture.  That's my point.

[drummindiver]

24 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

She's anti-PC on the issue. .

Fair enough.

To me, she tells things like it iis. If she was habitually libeling people she wouldn't have the career she has had. Im not a fan of hers, I remember in the day she was upset about others free speech about her and the rap song about her was awesome.

Edited December 13, 2016 by drummindiver

[Moonlight Graham]

On 2016-12-12 at 1:17 PM, DogOnPorch said:

Islam is Western Civilization's historical enemy. Anything other than that is spin.

Western Civilization's historical enemy is the mosquito.   Mosquitoes pre-date Islam by a mile.  I hate mosquitoes, and so do you and everyone you know.  I've murdered hundreds of them in my rage. I've tried countless times to ethnically cleanse my yard of mosquitoes. In fact, the more I kill them the more they seem to bite me!

[drummindiver]

9 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Western Civilization's historical enemy is the mosquito.   Mosquitoes pre-date Islam by a mile.  I hate mosquitoes, and so do you and everyone you know.  I've murdered hundreds of them in my rage. I've tried countless times to ethnically cleanse my yard of mosquitoes. In fact, the more I kill them the more they seem to bite me!

Mosquitos kill more people every year and have killed more people than anything in history. Would love if the gmo type erradiated them,  but integral part of the food chain. Sorry , drift.

Even if you don't like a fact,  it does not negate the fact.

 

[eyeball]

29 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

Even if you don't like a fact,  it does not negate the fact.

Stating that an opinion is a fact is a mistake.

[drummindiver]

12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Stating that an opinion is a fact is a mistake.

I agree. Are you suggesting the Islamist world and the Western world have not historically been at odds?

[Michael Hardner]

If Islam is our enemy, what does victory look like ?  To me it looks like Western Muslims creating their own version of the religion, which is exactly what I see.  You can post stats that purport to show that Western Muslims are extreme but I have seen those stats and it's clear to me that attitudes vary from Muslim country to Muslim country across different variations of that culture.

 

[drummindiver]

My question asked if Islam were not our historical enemy. Are you also arguing that fact?

[Argus]

27 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

If Islam is our enemy, what does victory look like ?  To me it looks like Western Muslims creating their own version of the religion, which is exactly what I see.  You can post stats that purport to show that Western Muslims are extreme but I have seen those stats and it's clear to me that attitudes vary from Muslim country to Muslim country across different variations of that culture.

To which I would reply that it seems Muslims act differently when they are in the minority and are aware they have no ability to force the changes they want on government, such as patriarchal laws which favour men, and restrict the freedoms of other religions. The difference seems to me to not be so much 'western' Muslims, but Muslims who don't have control. There are 57 Muslim states. I'm not aware of any of them which accords equal rights to non-Muslims as they do to Muslims, or equal rights to women and men.

[eyeball]

28 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

My question asked if Islam were not our historical enemy. Are you also arguing that fact?

I'm simply arguing that it's not a fact because it's merely an opinion, one I disagree with.

Edited December 14, 2016 by eyeball

[drummindiver]

17 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I'm simply arguing that it's not a fact because it's merely an opinion, one I disagree with.

So, you disagree with history ? OK,   I didn't like WW2....it didn't happen either.