drummindiver Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 42 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: What if your customers are snowflakes? This can be extrapolated to the real world where the bakery did not want gays as customers. I can assume you are suggesting this to be a right wing response? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, drummindiver said: This can be extrapolated to the real world where the bakery did not want gays as customers. I can assume you are suggesting this to be a right wing response? In this case it was the bakery owners who were the snowflakes. They were triggered by those horrible gays and demanded that they not have to cope with the real world, which includes gay people. Edited December 10, 2016 by dialamah Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 46 minutes ago, bcsapper said: What if they're Nazis? Yes good point. No avoiding them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Yes good point. No avoiding them. Or Trump supporters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 19 minutes ago, drummindiver said: This can be extrapolated to the real world where the bakery did not want gays as customers. I can assume you are suggesting this to be a right wing response? I don't understand the question. The statement I was interested in regarded ignoring complaints from snowflakes, and apparently Nazis as customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Yes good point. No avoiding them. Small businesses in my neighborhood have a smart approach IMO. Put signs for all candidates in the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 40 minutes ago, dialamah said: In this case it was the bakery owners who were the snowflakes. They were triggered by those horrible gays and demanded that they not have to cope with the real world, which includes gay people. You are absolutely right. The left are usually considered to be snowflakes however, so is this a same on same crime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I don't understand the question. The statement I was interested in regarded ignoring complaints from snowflakes, and apparently Nazis as customers. I dont understand your comment. The right would sell to Nazi. The left would sell to Nazi. Look at history for proof. As for complaints? Both would listen to complaints. Busines is business. Edited December 10, 2016 by drummindiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, drummindiver said: I dont understand your comment. The right would sell to Nazi. The left would sell to Nazi. Look at history for proof. As for complaints? Both would listen to complaints. Busines is business. Ok I don't remember Nazi stores but I suppose that is one solution. I thought you said to ignore complaints from snowflakes but this approach makes more sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: What if your customers are snowflakes? What if your customers didn't like an openly gay guy at the counter? Would you move him to the back of the shop, maybe, if it was costing you business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Just now, Argus said: What if your customers didn't like an openly gay guy at the counter? Would you move him to the back of the shop, maybe, if it was costing you business? I am not interested in what any one of us would do. I am more interested in people's principles on the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 On 2016-12-07 at 9:38 PM, drummindiver said: Clearly political correctness is getting out of hand. How does the pendulum get back to the middle? http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/full-comment/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/christie-blatchford-b-c-teacher-fired-for-having-the-wrong-opinion Stop using your hand, take a shower, and engage in yoga. I am dead serious. The world has always been out of your control. How you choose to find your own order in it begins and ends with you not fretting over what others think. The middle is always there for you if you choose it. Stop looking to make other people fit in your middle and work on keeping yourself there. Your world does not just have to be a hand job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 4 hours ago, drummindiver said: This can be extrapolated to the real world where the bakery did not want gays as customers. I can assume you are suggesting this to be a right wing response? I'd suggest it was more likely a conservatively religious response that right-wingers defend by default. They'd automatically be flakes if they didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Ok I don't remember Nazi stores but I suppose that is one solution. I thought you said to ignore complaints from snowflakes but this approach makes more sense to me. Okay. Michael, I feel triggered that you don't agree. Please excuse yourself from Mapleleafweb. No severance. I need a safe place. And a hug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Rue said: Stop using your hand, take a shower, and engage in yoga. I am dead serious. The world has always been out of your control. How you choose to find your own order in it begins and ends with you not fretting over what others think. The middle is always there for you if you choose it. Stop looking to make other people fit in your middle and work on keeping yourself there. Your world does not just have to be a hand job. You realize the irony of telling me what not to do while telling me what to do? I think I liked it better when yoI had me on ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'd suggest it was more likely a conservatively religious response that right-wingers defend by default. They'd automatically be flakes if they didn't. Hmmm. Counter intuitive as right wingers are for open trading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Ok I don't remember Nazi stores Some reading on who sold to the Nazis. https://libcom.org/library/allied-multinationals-supply-nazi-germany-world-war-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: I am not interested in what any one of us would do. I am more interested in people's principles on the topic. Personally, I would leave them at the front. I also defend the owners right not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 2 hours ago, drummindiver said: Hmmm. Counter intuitive as right wingers are for open trading. I don't see much compromise, mostly just some duty/compulsion to combust at the turn of every PC peccadillo you come across and flame anyone who's otherwise chillin'. You're like fighters in ISIS that are running around demanding their victims quote the Koran or else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, drummindiver said: You realize the irony of telling me what not to do while telling me what to do? I think I liked it better when yoI had me on ignore. No irony or contradiction actually. It's about identifying what one can and can not control and concentrating on that which can be controlled. Treat people the way you want to be treated and you'd be surprised the positive revolution that can start. Demonstrate moderation and you'd be surprised how it can influence others to be that way too. By the way I didn't nor have I ever had you or anyone else on ignore. Edited December 11, 2016 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I am not interested in what any one of us would do. I am more interested in people's principles on the topic. Why are the two distinct? I am far more interested in what people do not what they say they are going to do. Thus my respnses ro DD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 7 hours ago, Argus said: What if your customers didn't like an openly gay guy at the counter? Would you move him to the back of the shop, maybe, if it was costing you business? Just don't hire the openly gay guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 10 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I don't understand the question. The statement I was interested in regarded ignoring complaints from snowflakes, and apparently Nazis as customers. Exactly. The customer, most certainly, is not always right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted December 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, eyeball said: 1 hour ago, Rue said: No irony or contradiction actually. It's about identifying what one can and can not control and concentrating on that which can be controlled. Treat people the way you want to be treated and you'd be surprised the positive revolution that can start. Demonstrate moderation and you'd be surprised how it can influence others to be that way too. By the way I didn't nor have I ever had you or anyone else on ignore. You do realize none of us can control anything we are discussing on this forum? You don't like x. I don't like y. You judge me for my opinions. Same for me. Yet on we go. I treat ppl the way I am treated. I'm sorry Rue, but I've read enough of your posts to tell you that you are in no position to preach moderation. Edited December 11, 2016 by drummindiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted December 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 hours ago, eyeball said: I don't see much compromise, mostly just some duty/compulsion to combust at the turn of every PC peccadillo you come across and flame anyone who's otherwise chillin'. You're like fighters in ISIS that are running around demanding their victims quote the Koran or else. Says the ball who implodes at any mention of calling out those same ISUL thugs.....and of course then resorts to ad hoc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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