Boges Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bob Macadoo said: How many discussions have you had personally where a truly solitary innocuous statement has a person running for authority? It's funny how people who hear their echo don't question the pecularity of it's pitch. So that goes to believing this story is a complete fabrication. In fact, my post-secondary experiences have been the opposite. I could come down on the right of issues and not feel like my opinions weren't welcome. But I've been out of the game for over a decade. Are things changing? We're seeing news stories that would indicate that. It's certainly something worth discussion on a forum where the goal is debate. Edited December 9, 2016 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Bob Macadoo said: My opinion of Caledonia is immaterial. It seems to you however though because Christie has made a mint about a topic that is good clickbait. Mainstream media is most definitely not immune. Check CNN out. They are the Vince McMahon of political media......incidently his wife is in cabinet after running the WWF.......appropriare skillset. So you go to Vice for your news then? The CBC is no different either, they all have their biases and they all make you feel as if every news story is of utmost importance to your life, that's how they keep your attention. No point in reporting the 99% of everyday life where every thing is boring and routine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 14 hours ago, Cum Laude said: How does a teacher saying hateful and hurtful things produce snowflakes? The teacher doesn't. The school does, by pampering her, helping to shelter her from contrary views and catering to her sense of entitlement at being able to shut down and punish anyone who offends her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 30 minutes ago, Bob Macadoo said: How many discussions have you had personally where a truly solitary innocuous statement has a person running for authority? It's funny how people who hear their echo don't question the pecularity of it's pitch. I would wager that if you asked the moderators here they would not be surprised that someone reading an innocuous statement would come running to them to complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 5 hours ago, drummindiver said: No. How do you ascribe leaning to outrage? It's pretty easy to determine -> there are right-wing triggers and left-wing triggers. I'm not overly bothered by either story, some are bothered more by one than another and some will rationalize "why" they are and try to make it not about their politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: It's pretty easy to determine -> there are right-wing triggers and left-wing triggers. I'm not overly bothered by either story, some are bothered more by one than another and some will rationalize "why" they are and try to make it not about their politics. So having empathy for teacher and father would be a right wing trigger? A left wing trigger would be...a cap on immigration ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: It's pretty easy to determine -> there are right-wing triggers and left-wing triggers. I'm not overly bothered by either story, some are bothered more by one than another and some will rationalize "why" they are and try to make it not about their politics. So you don't think some of us might be outraged simply from the point of view of a strong attachment to simple, basic justice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 32 minutes ago, Argus said: So you don't think some of us might be outraged simply from the point of view of a strong attachment to simple, basic justice? Some people are outraged because a teacher lost his job for no good reason. Some people are outraged by what the teacher said. Again, for no good reason. And some people are outraged by the outrage. I guess we all fall victim to that one every now and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 16 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Some people are outraged because a teacher lost his job for no good reason. Wait a 'sec...didn't another MLW member contend that such a termination could not happen in British Columbia ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Wait a 'sec...didn't another MLW member contend that such a termination could not happen in British Columbia ? In which thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Just now, bcsapper said: In which thread? The thread about the dentist firing his assistant because his wife thought she was too hot. At will firings are legal in the U.S without cause, but another member insisted that was not possible in British Columbia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) 58 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: The thread about the dentist firing his assistant because his wife thought she was too hot. At will firings are legal in the U.S without cause, but another member insisted that was not possible in British Columbia. Well, it would be nice if that were the case, and the teacher got his job back.. And then the headmaster and the administrators were fired for incompetence, and the student herself was expelled, and her family disowned her, and she had to go live in a drain somewhere. Probably won't happen. Edited December 10, 2016 by bcsapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: It's pretty easy to determine -> there are right-wing triggers and left-wing Another teacher under the gun, this time by a religious group instead of spoiled snowflakes Right wing trigger? http://m.torontosun.com/2016/12/09/the-muslim-witch-hunt-against-markham-principal Edited December 10, 2016 by drummindiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 12 minutes ago, drummindiver said: Another teacher under the gun, this time by a religious group instead of spoiled snowflakes Right wing trigger? http://m.torontosun.com/2016/12/09/the-muslim-witch-hunt-against-markham-principal “but are uncomfortable speaking up in fear of being incorrectly labelled Islamophobic.” Hey, just like this place! Except for the uncomfortable bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 3 hours ago, drummindiver said: So having empathy for teacher and father would be a right wing trigger? A left wing trigger would be...a cap on immigration ? Both of those sound WAY wrong. I can tell you don't write these stories. How about: A kid is asked to write about a major figure in Canadian history, writes about Sir John A McDonald and gets an F for glorifying s racist white Male. A kid in Alberta does his science fair on climate change and it is removed from the exhibition because parents are upset. There you go. Which one induces more of a reaction from whom? From you? From me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 57 minutes ago, drummindiver said: Right wing trigger? Sure, here are just a few examples; The west is the author of its misfortunes in the Muslim world. Crime is falling. 97% of climate experts agree. It takes a village to raise a child. Peace. The list goes on and on and on and on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Both of those sound WAY wrong. I can tell you don't write these stories. How about: A kid is asked to write about a major figure in Canadian history, writes about Sir John A McDonald and gets an F for glorifying s racist white Male. A kid in Alberta does his science fair on climate change and it is removed from the exhibition because parents are upset. There you go. Which one induces more of a reaction from whom? From you? From me? Identical negative reaction from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure, here are just a few examples; The west is the author of its misfortunes in the Muslim world. Crime is falling. 97% of climate experts agree. It takes a village to raise a child. Peace. The list goes on and on and on and on. They could make me argue. Not run away and get you fired. Edit> Actually most of them wouldn't even make me argue. Edited December 10, 2016 by bcsapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 I'm not surprised, you've always struck me as being a bit of a reluctant right-winger. Probably spent to much time living in Vancouver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 9 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Both of those sound WAY wrong. I can tell you don't write these stories. How about: A kid is asked to write about a major figure in Canadian history, writes about Sir John A McDonald and gets an F for glorifying s racist white Male. A kid in Alberta does his science fair on climate change and it is removed from the exhibition because parents are upset. There you go. Which one induces more of a reaction from whom? From you? From me? As with BC, same negative effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) 9 hours ago, eyeball said: Sure, here are just a few examples; The west is the author of its misfortunes in the Muslim world. Crime is falling. 97% of climate experts agree. It takes a village to raise a child. Peace. The list goes on and on and on and on. Several of these would be basis for argument. It takes a village is a Hillary Clintonism that I'm sure would make even most left leaners want to punch themselves in the face. Do you really believe right wingers don't want peace? Not rhetorical. Edited December 10, 2016 by drummindiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) So, coming at you from the right. You are responsible for your own actions. You should learn English or French when you immigrate to Canada. An anonymous complaint about an opinion or from a snowflake is not verbal assault and should not cost you your career. There should be no two tier policing. There should be no distinct society clause. ...and on and on. Edited December 10, 2016 by drummindiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummindiver Posted December 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Oh man. As if I forgot. It's not xenophobic to call out radical Islam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 What if your customers are snowflakes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 18 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: What if your customers are snowflakes? What if they're Nazis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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