Womens only swimming day at public pool.

taxme · October 29, 2016

Just now, ?Impact said:

I do remember a professor ogling his students at UofT Hart House several years ago.

Was he straight or gay, and at which gender was he staring at?

I must admit that I like to ogle at women all the time. Women are beautiful creatures and I thank gawd that I am a man. Besides, I am only doing what nature intended men to do. Look. Otherwise, if men didn't look we all most likely would not be here taping away on our computers. Besides, I bet you that women do just as much ogling at men as men do at them. Ogling is a part of life.

Smallc · October 29, 2016

Why should I care about this?

?Impact · October 29, 2016

22 minutes ago, taxme said:

Was he straight or gay, and at which gender was he staring at?

Richard Hummel, professor of Chemical Engineering, age 60 using scuba tanks to ogle at female students from underwater.

The_Squid · October 29, 2016

8 hours ago, PIK said:

Try and open a men's only anything in this country.

http://www.cordovabaygolf.com/mens-club/mens-club-info

Benz · October 29, 2016

I do not know you guys focus on the pool. The helmet is a much greater concern. Not only bikers, construction workers as well. They can get seriously injured and become disables. Therefore, a charge for the society.

Imagine for a moment that Islam, or at least extreme version of it, does not exist... but, there are still women that really feel to shy to swim with men. It would not be seen as an exagerated accomodation to give them one hour per week at the pool. It's not the accomodation itself that is a problem. it's the reason behind it. What makes it worst, is the total lack of actions to fight the dark mindset of the extremists in those religions. Some of them endoctrinates people to a point where women are bashful up to their topknot. They want women to feel like shit.... and we do Nothing.

Our inactions are making it looks worst. If you scratch your knee on the ground and you do not disinfect it, it may not heal. So when someone, is accomodating your infected knee, one can say it is nice to have sympathy to you, and another one will say it is stupid because it would be much better to heal it instead.

Argus · October 29, 2016

I look forward to when the first hairy Muslim guy, or some other guy, decides he's going to use the pool on these days because he identifies as a female. It will no longer be legal to even keep him out of the changing room.

dialamah · October 29, 2016

23 hours ago, Argus said:

It's a public pool and should not be discriminating. You can say 'women only' but we all know this is 'muslim women only'. I highly doubt some girl in a bikini would be made to feel welcome on these particular days. And Muslim women don't like being gawked at? Well Muslim men love gawking at women. We certainly know that from experience. There were riots a few years back in Australia about that, and women I know have complained about groups of young Muslim men walking up and down the beach staring rudely at the girls and making them feel uncomfortable.

There've been women-only swim times for as long as I can remember at any pool I've attended, so this isn't "Muslim Women Only". I've even seen pools have 'parent-children' only times, 'adult only times' (19+), and age 16+ only times. I've seen pools closed to the public for private events, such as birthday parties or for nudists. Closing pools to accommodate special groups isn't terribly unusual.

I agree, though, that men do tend to stare. Men raised in Canadian culture tend to be less obvious about it, but I've seen men from the Middle East, India and Asia all staring openly at women. I've also been to a nude beach where white guys would park their boats out on the water, and use binoculars to do their staring.

But you know, this behavior doesn't just happen at the beach or swimming pools; I've been stared at by men from non-Canadian culture just while walking my dog. I've also been whistled at, catcalled and insulted by men while out of the house - these have always been White Canadian-Speaking guys. Never the non-Canadian types; they stare, but don't say anything. Hard to say which is more disturbing.

Altai · October 29, 2016

States should met all the needs of its citizens but citizens should not abuse the goodwill of their states. The State should fulfill their request if there is an enough crowd who want "women only day" in the area where the swimming pool is located. If there is no enough crowd, then they should swim in their bathtub. Probably many women in the region would like to have "women only day" in the pool calendar. I personally would never swim in a public pool, be a open to everyone or be open to women only, I dont care.

Edited October 29, 2016 by Altai

Goddess · October 29, 2016

22 hours ago, -TSS- said:

I don't know about what happens over there where you are but here in Finland those "women only" swimming events mean that they are for muslim women and yet they still even swim in those ridiculous veils.

This kind of makes me re-think things a bit......why do they still have to wear the gear when there's no men around? if they're going to wear it anyways, then why do they need their own swim times?

WestCoastRunner · October 29, 2016

I don't have a problem with this at all. Many westernized women feel more comfortable swimming without men around as well due to the image that women are constantly having to live up. Many women suffer from poor body image and if offering an hour a day or week helps to get them out and get healthy and learn a life skill then what's the problem?

msj · October 30, 2016

In Japan they have train cars that are for women only.

Thats how pathetic us #notallmen are.

Cant say I disagree: I agree with Sam Harris that belief can lead to some awful behaviour. Islam being a fine example of being the mother lode of bad ideas so it's not surprising to find terrorism spring from that well.

But something should be said for nature: us men suck in too many ways in general and not all of it is caused from our culture, imo.

bush_cheney2004 · October 30, 2016

4 hours ago, WestCoastRunner said:

.... Many women suffer from poor body image and if offering an hour a day or week helps to get them out and get healthy and learn a life skill then what's the problem?

The problem is discrimination, "separate but equal" exclusion, sexism, equal protection under the law, preferential treatment, misallocation and/or under utilization of resources, etc. "Poor body image" is a personal problem/issue. The pool doesn't care.

October 30, 2016

5 hours ago, WestCoastRunner said:

I don't have a problem with this at all. Many westernized women feel more comfortable swimming without men around as well due to the image that women are constantly having to live up. Many women suffer from poor body image and if offering an hour a day or week helps to get them out and get healthy and learn a life skill then what's the problem?

I don't have a problem with it either, or men only clubs. Hell, who doesn't want to spend some time away from the opposite sex once in a while?

Edited October 30, 2016 by bcsapper
I neglected to put a question mark at the end of the last sentence in my post. I accidentally put a period there instead, so I thought it best I change it.

WestCoastRunner · October 30, 2016

1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

The problem is discrimination, "separate but equal" exclusion, sexism, equal protection under the law, preferential treatment, misallocation and/or under utilization of resources, etc. "Poor body image" is a personal problem/issue. The pool doesn't care.

Yes, like it's really going to interfere with your life.

bush_cheney2004 · October 30, 2016

6 minutes ago, WestCoastRunner said:

Yes, like it's really going to interfere with your life.

Can't have it both ways.....wear a burka or full wet suit in the pool if necessary for "body image"

The_Squid · October 30, 2016

Pools here require proper pool attire.... no clothes..... no cutoff jeans..... no burkas.... etc, etc.

-1=e^ipi · October 30, 2016

On 10/28/2016 at 6:49 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

LOL. Do you think women care much about a small % of the female population?

That was sort of my point. It's hypocritical.

On 10/28/2016 at 6:49 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

Do lesbian women have a significant physical dominance over other women like men have over women?

That's sexist man. Some women are very strong and some men are very weak. It depends.

On 10/28/2016 at 6:49 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

How many sexual assaults or rapes do lesbians commit compared to hetero men?

Not all heterosexual males are rapists and not all men are heterosexual.

-1=e^ipi · October 30, 2016

On 10/29/2016 at 0:18 AM, Benz said:

but, there are still women that really feel to shy to swim with men. It would not be seen as an exagerated accomodation to give them one hour per week at the pool.

Imagine that there are still white people that feel too shy to swim with black people. It would not be seen as an exaggerated accommodation to give them 1 hour per week at the pool... right?

There is another option. It's called the Burkini.

On 10/29/2016 at 0:18 AM, Benz said:

-1=e^ipi · October 30, 2016

9 hours ago, Goddess said:

This kind of makes me re-think things a bit......why do they still have to wear the gear when there's no men around? if they're going to wear it anyways, then why do they need their own swim times?

To be closer to allah and to get to the magical afterlife.

8 hours ago, WestCoastRunner said:

what's the problem?

The problem is it is sexist.

Are you okay with a white-only swimming pool excluding non-white people?

Argus · October 30, 2016

18 hours ago, Goddess said:

This kind of makes me re-think things a bit......why do they still have to wear the gear when there's no men around? if they're going to wear it anyways, then why do they need their own swim times?

Because their weird ass religious beliefs hate womens bodies. You think you're going to find Mormon women walking around even in their houses in thongs? As for those ultra Orthodox Jews, God help them. They're required to shave their heads because their hair is evil.

Argus · October 30, 2016

12 hours ago, msj said:

But something should be said for nature: us men suck in too many ways in general and not all of it is caused from our culture, imo.

And in a disaster, in a crash, when someone falls off a subway platform, it's men who rush to help while women stand back and watch.

msj · October 30, 2016

12 minutes ago, Argus said:

And in a disaster, in a crash, when someone falls off a subway platform, it's men who rush to help while women stand back and watch.

Of course! That's an unconscious woman over there - an opportunity for some sex! Of course the ~~rapist~~ man will rush in. :lol:

Benz · October 31, 2016

19 hours ago, -1=e^ipi said:

Imagine that there are still white people that feel too shy to swim with black people. It would not be seen as an exaggerated accommodation to give them 1 hour per week at the pool... right?

There is another option. It's called the Burkini.

In the hypothesis I made, I removed the evil part of it. You added one in your version. You are besides the point.

The burkini is a very confused solution to people already confused. Those who wear it, they think they respect their religions but, the extremists who imposed those constraining clothes, are very against the burkini. They say it is totallly indecent. Ironic, isn't it? The burkini is a weird patch for those women who feel very bad at the idea that a man can see their ears. But it is also a source of irritation to those who created the problem.

Goddess · October 31, 2016

10 hours ago, Benz said:

In the hypothesis I made, I removed the evil part of it. You added one in your version. You are besides the point.

The burkini is a very confused solution to people already confused. Those who wear it, they think they respect their religions but, the extremists who imposed those constraining clothes, are very against the burkini. They say it is totallly indecent. Ironic, isn't it? The burkini is a weird patch for those women who feel very bad at the idea that a man can see their ears. But it is also a source of irritation to those who created the problem.

Ugh. Don't get me started on the burkini......

While I didn't agree with France banning it, I don't think that it should be elevated to some kind of saviour for Muslim women.....it most certainly is not.

Benz · October 31, 2016

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Ugh. Don't get me started on the burkini......

While I didn't agree with France banning it, I don't think that it should be elevated to some kind of saviour for Muslim women.....it most certainly is not.

France did not ban the burkini. Few cities did and the French justice has removed the interdictions.

I did not say the burkini is a kind of saviour for women. Far from it. I think it is ridiculous and it rathers show how much they feel bad and oppressed, even if they think they do not.