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That's ridiculous. I don't think anyone thinks this will promote violence against women. The issue is with being insensitive to survivors of violence, who may see that billboard while suffering from PTSD.

Wha? So you mean no violent comicbook fiction ads ever again because some people might be suffering post-violence PTSD? What if you were a victim of gun violence and see an ad of a character pointing a gun at somebody?

I think the uproar over this ad has mainly been over it glorifying male violence against women.

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That's ridiculous. I don't think anyone thinks this will promote violence against women. The issue is with being insensitive to survivors of violence, who may see that billboard while suffering from PTSD.

The world is not a safe space. People can't hide in the corner from reality - or in this case, fictitious reality.

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The world is not a safe space. People can't hide in the corner from reality - or in this case, fictitious reality.

What about those who hide in MLW fictitious reality and depend on interaction here for a sense of worth or status? How is this place any different from those who lose themselves in movies of fiction or electronic video games?

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What about those who hide in MLW fictitious reality and depend on interaction here for a sense of worth or status? How is this place any different from those who lose themselves in movies of fiction or electronic video games?

It's cheaper.

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Right now it's ridiculously distorted with men killing their wives than vice versa.

To put that in context, if we take the FBI UCR data from 2011 (latest I could find for this level of detail), we get about a 5:1 ratio between men killing their wife/girlfriend and women killing their husband/boyfriend.

That being said, I don't see the poster as a violence against women, it is violence in entertainment. Anyone who is against this poster should spend equal energy being against all violence in entertainment, or else accept them equally for what they are.

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The world is not a safe space. People can't hide in the corner from reality - or in this case, fictitious reality.

The studio had every legal right to keep those ads up if they wanted. But capitalism happened I guess, meaning a subset of the population were offended by and criticized the ads, it blew up into a controversy that reflected bad on the studio, so the studio removed the ads in order not to make customers PO'd and continue to receive bad PR which might hurt their bottom line.

I guess the main argument is whether people are overreacting to the ads or not.

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Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.

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I guess the main argument is whether people are overreacting to the ads or not.

That's my thing - people are waaayyy too sensitive.

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People complaining about this have no idea what X-men are about. They see an image and have a knee-jerk reaction to what it implies without knowing the context of why that would even happen in the movie. They are mutants, beyond human and have abilities far above any human.

Seems like the SJWs are hitting out at anything they can bitch about.

That is kind of the point. There was no context provided. They used this image of a woman being violently assaulted to draw in fans.

Women don't need this not now, not ever.

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That is kind of the point. There was no context provided. They used this image of a woman being violently assaulted to draw in fans.

Women don't need this not now, not ever.

I feel the same way about the promo poster for "9 to 5", where Dabney Coleman is shown tied up by three women.

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That is kind of the point. There was no context provided. They used this image of a woman being violently assaulted to draw in fans.

Women don't need this not now, not ever.

Of course the context is provided. It says "X-MEN" in huge letters at the top of the ad. Then it shows pictures of CGI superheroes. The context is crystal clear.

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That is kind of the point. There was no context provided. They used this image of a woman being violently assaulted to draw in fans.

Women don't need this not now, not ever.

Men are 3 times as likely to be murdered, 3 times as likely to be assaulted with a weapon, over 2 times as likely to be victims of aggravated assault.

But it's violence against women that society has a problem with... not men.

Images of men being violently assaulted to advertise a movie = okay.

Images of women being violently assaulted to advertise a movie = bad.

Got it.

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That is kind of the point. There was no context provided. They used this image of a woman being violently assaulted to draw in fans.

Women don't need this not now, not ever.

The context is a mutant super hero movie. I don't care for comic book super hero movies, but at least I know that you don't treat a mutant woman as a regular woman...

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The context is a mutant super hero movie. I don't care for comic book super hero movies, but at least I know that you don't treat a mutant woman as a regular woman...

But isn't part of the movie series about equality between non-mutants and mutants?

You and your mutanophobic comments!

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The world is not a safe space. People can't hide in the corner from reality - or in this case, fictitious reality.

They could have literally shown anything to promote the film. They chose to plaster a dude choking a woman across a giant billboard.

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They could have literally shown anything to promote the film. They chose to plaster a dude choking a woman across a giant billboard.

So what! Has the world ended? No! Stop yer whinin'.

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They could have literally shown anything to promote the film. They chose to plaster a dude choking a woman across a giant billboard.

Feminism says they want equality in the world and to be treated the same as a man. And when that happens, there are STILL complaints.

So I tell them and SJWs to stuff it.

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They could have literally shown anything to promote the film. They chose to plaster a dude choking a woman across a giant billboard.

Perhaps they thought that this poster would generate a lot of discussion on opinion boards thereby giving them a whole lot of free publicity?

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Perhaps they thought that this poster would generate a lot of discussion on opinion boards thereby giving them a whole lot of free publicity?

No X-men fan isn't going to see the movie because of the poster. So yes, this does create a lot of free publicity and only proves to upset SJW that probably wouldn't see the show.

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It's a comic book. Supervillians and superheroes bash each other in the face, regardless of gender.

I know how this could have been resolved... since Mystique is a shapeshifter, if she would have simply turned into a man then this whole thing wouldn't have even been an issue! :rolleyes: Projecting values from the real world onto the comic book world just doesn't work very well.

Is Mystique even an actual female? Has anyone checked the genital area??? She can shift shapes into anyone... perhaps she is genderless....? I don't know. Is it unacceptable for a male supervillian to choke a genderless character???

What if the poster depicted him shooting laser beams from his eyes at the female superhero? Is that less violent? More acceptable?

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I know how this could have been resolved... since Mystique is a shapeshifter, if she would have simply turned into a man then this whole thing wouldn't have even been an issue!

But then they would be complaining that there is lack of female representation in the movie poster.

And if it was a female choking a male/female, they would have complained that the movie portrays females as violent and evil, thus reinforces patriarchy.

All roads lead to patriarchy for SJWs.

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So are you a SJP (peacnik), or neutral? I can't imagine anyone overtly going out of their way to identify themselves as a social injustice warrior but maybe I'm wrong

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But then they would be complaining that there is lack of female representation in the movie poster.

And if it was a female choking a male/female, they would have complained that the movie portrays females as violent and evil, thus reinforces patriarchy.

All roads lead to patriarchy for SJWs.

You're exaggerating.

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I'm really not exaggerating.

Feminists complain all the time about lack of female representation & negative portrayal of women.

There is basically zero way a poster of 1 person strangling another person would be acceptable to them.

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