America under President Trump

[Infidel Dog]

6 hours ago, Boges said:

Belgium wasn't highlighted in your report. Their spike isn't huge. Certainly not a spike in deaths. 

What "report?" I referred you to an article from The Guardian. I believe I gave you the first paragraph. You might want to try reading it before you tell me what's in it. Here it is again:

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Spanish health officials have warned the country could already be experiencing a “second wave” of coronavirus, as France, Germany and Belgium all reported steep rises in their number of cases.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/24/europe-warns-of-need-for-vigilance-as-covid-19-cases-rise-sharply

Edited July 28, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[Cannucklehead]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/usa/twitter-deletes-tweet-donald-trump-jr-limits-his-account%3famp

 

Rofl I love it.  

[eyeball]

18 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Wow. This is just basic human communication that you're lacking now.

You had a picture of some black guys with guns and some white guys with guns.

It wasn't Mike Tyson & Eddie Murphy in one pic and Stallone & Gretzky in the other. We were left to guess who they were. 

So, exactly, who are the groups, where and when were the pictures taken, and what kinds of things were they doing when the pictures were taken? By the time you answer those questions I should hope that you know the answer anyways but I'll give it to you if you must really need it.

They're NFAC and 3%er's protesting.  You certainly seemed to know enough to tell one was evil and the other was stupid, juvenile and dangerous but up until now you haven't expressed any really overt ignorance about who or what these groups are or were doing.  Now you and a few of your homies are in your usual tizzy you get into when trying to avoid a question.  Was my question too loaded for you to handle or something?  If so perhaps you should just leave them alone.

[eyeball]

15 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

No.

Can you seriously not stop yourself? WCM's question was clear as daylight. The inference of your reply was equally clear and incorrect. So either you were lying or you're not capable of understanding context. It's as simple as that.

So why didn't you just dream up some clue and proceed from there the way you've done with this inference of mine that you've conjured up?  Speaking about context, the context of WCM's question is as consistent as its repetitive - that virtually everything he perceives as being the slightest bit negative towards Trump is a result of CNN. I simply corrected his perception in this case by pointing to the horse's mouth it came from.  Trump never said anything about liberation thru civil war and neither did I.  

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As to the rest I haven't a clue what you're talking about so I edited it from the quote.

Well, I'll tell you do what Shady fails to do when he's clueless, explain what it is you don't understand and I'll try to clear things up for you.

[Infidel Dog]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Well, I'll tell you do what Shady fails to do when he's clueless, explain what it is you don't understand and I'll try to clear things up for you.

No problem. If it works for Shady I'll give it a go. The clueless remarks you made that I can't make heads or tails of as far as they appear to referring to something you seem to think I said but don't remember ever even thinking is pretty much everything you said or at least tried to say in the second half of your post.

[Infidel Dog]

14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So why didn't you just dream up some clue and proceed from there the way you've done with this inference of mine that you've conjured up?

Not just an inference. WCM asked a clear question suggesting you inferred Trump wanted 3 states to separate from America. He asked where you heard that. You then posted a graphic which when you understand the context Trump was saying no such thing. You then said you heard what WCM suggested you were inferring from Trump. At that point you weren't inferring. You were stating. You were either lying or you don't understand context. 

How many times do we have to say the same thing?

In your defence, I actually think you simply didn't understand the context of Trump's quote. You obviously have trouble understanding simple things. It's explained about as clearly as I can offer now. You made a mistake. Live with it.

Edited July 28, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[WestCanMan]

21 hours ago, Boges said:

Trump tried to ignore it. But pathetic poll numbers has forced him to focus on it again. 

1)America is the co-morbidity capital of the world. C19 was almost tailor-made to kill Americans 

2)Just because the majority of Americans are hoodwinked by this issue doesn’t mean thst Canadians should be as well. 

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The fact that Canadian deaths are overwhelmingly from LTC homes show how well it was contained compared to other countries. Other countries don't have near that percentage. 

That’s not what it shows.
It shows that C19 completely made the rounds and almost everyone was unaffected. It also shows that we didn’t protect our most vulnerable. 
 

We know for an absolute fact that we didn’t contain C19 because our government took every effort to ensure that it could spread: they kept busy airports jam-packed with Canadians and people from covid hotspots for almost two months and they told Canadians not to wear masks. The exact opposite of Japan. 

I’m not Pelosiing here - I wasn’t out giving the wrong advice at the beginning and then acting like I was right all along. I said the mask rule here was stupid and I said we should close off travel from covid hotspots all along. Just like Japan. 

[WestCanMan]

18 hours ago, eyeball said:

They're NFAC and 3%er's protesting.  You certainly seemed to know enough to tell one was evil and the other was stupid, juvenile and dangerous but up until now you haven't expressed any really overt ignorance about who or what these groups are or were doing.  Now you and a few of your homies are in your usual tizzy you get into when trying to avoid a question.  Was my question too loaded for you to handle or something?  If so perhaps you should just leave them alone.

I already told you exactly how the NFAC  were evil. 
 

I don’t know who the 3%ers are or where they demonstrated. I don’t know what their ‘agenda’ is but I do know that it’s the opposite of whatever you heard on CNN or The Psychic Hotline. 

[Boges]

18 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

 

We know for an absolute fact that we didn’t contain C19 because our government took every effort to ensure that it could spread: they kept busy airports jam-packed with Canadians and people from covid hotspots for almost two months and they told Canadians not to wear masks. The exact opposite of Japan. 

I’m not Pelosiing here - I wasn’t out giving the wrong advice at the beginning and then acting like I was right all along. I said the mask rule here was stupid and I said we should close off travel from covid hotspots all along. Just like Japan. 

 

All of North America came to realize the seriousness of COVID-19 at about the same time. Around March 10th. And NBA player tested positive and the NBA shut down. Within 2 days schools and large public gatherings were closed/cancelled and within 2 weeks, non-essential businesses were being told they can't operate. 

All should really be judged by their actions after that. Because since then Canada has been able to tamp down infection and the US can't. You note Co-morbidity as a culprit in the US death toll. I tend to agree. But the infection rate is still alarmingly high. They clearly aren't doing a lot to "protect the vulnerable". 

Edited July 29, 2020 by Boges

[eyeball]

19 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

No problem. If it works for Shady I'll give it a go. The clueless remarks you made that I can't make heads or tails of as far as they appear to referring to something you seem to think I said but don't remember ever even thinking is pretty much everything you said or at least tried to say in the second half of your post.

Alex Jones, is that you?

[eyeball]

19 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Not just an inference. WCM asked a clear question suggesting you inferred Trump wanted 3 states to separate from America.

Well, he was wrong.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

We know for an absolute fact that we didn’t contain C19 because our government took every effort to ensure that it could spread...

If it wants us dead why doesn't our government simply round us up or even easier just put something in our water?

 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

I already told you exactly how the NFAC  were evil.  

So does this mean you think the 3%er's are the better of the two?

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I don’t know who the 3%ers are or where they demonstrated.

How on Earth do you know they're not evil if you don't even know who they are?  Do you think the authorities are as clueless?

[dialamah]

29 minutes ago, eyeball said:

If it wants us dead why doesn't our government simply round us up or even easier just put something in our water?

This is such a weird conspiracy, requiring that virtually every government official in the world, scientist, medical professional, all media and many others are united in hoaxing "the rest of us" in order to shut down the economy thus destroying it,  (even though a strong economy is key to politicians re-election hopes), pay us stay home, and wear masks when in stores.  

The "logic" here makes my head hurt.

 

[Shady]

2 hours ago, Boges said:

All of North America came to realize the seriousness of COVID-19 at about the same time. Around March 10th. And NBA player tested positive and the NBA shut down. Within 2 days schools and large public gatherings were closed/cancelled and within 2 weeks, non-essential businesses were being told they can't operate. 

All should really be judged by their actions after that. Because since then Canada has been able to tamp down infection and the US can't. You note Co-morbidity as a culprit in the US death toll. I tend to agree. But the infection rate is still alarmingly high. They clearly aren't doing a lot to "protect the vulnerable". 

Not true.  The vulnerable seem to be protected.  Most new cases are in younger people, not taking things seriously.

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, Boges said:

All of North America came to realize the seriousness of COVID-19 at about the same time. Around March 10th. And NBA player tested positive and the NBA shut down. Within 2 days schools and large public gatherings were closed/cancelled and within 2 weeks, non-essential businesses were being told they can't operate. 

All should really be judged by their actions after that. Because since then Canada has been able to tamp down infection and the US can't. You note Co-morbidity as a culprit in the US death toll. I tend to agree. But the infection rate is still alarmingly high. They clearly aren't doing a lot to "protect the vulnerable". 

Your reply doesn't address the fact that our government did everything that they could to spread covid for two months.

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

If it wants us dead why doesn't our government simply round us up or even easier just put something in our water?

In their defence, covid only kills about .05% of the population. 

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

So does this mean you think the 3%er's are the better of the two?

I am only going by their actions, as caught on video. 

Your accusations regarding their ulterior motives are meaningless to me.

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How on Earth do you know they're not evil if you don't even know who they are? 

I said that the people who I saw demonstrating in Michigan weren't doing evil things, and that they were being childish and dangerous [or words to that effect] and, as usual, I was 100% correct. 

How the hell do you know that they're evil if you didn't see them doing anything evil? Do you really think that you know who they are? Did you 'learn' that from CNN or vogue? 

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Do you think the authorities are as clueless?

No, I am 100% certain that they are far more clueless.

"The authorities' includes FBI bunglers and frauds, CIA scumbags like Brennan, Adam 'the repugnant liar' Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, etc. The lot of them have proven to be either 100% stupid or fraudulent, wouldn't you agree? 

[WestCanMan]

On 7/28/2020 at 1:09 PM, Cannucklehead said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/usa/twitter-deletes-tweet-donald-trump-jr-limits-his-account%3famp

Rofl I love it.  

It's pretty crazy that a tech firm has taken complete control of the dialogue around medicine, and that they allowed information that was known to be 100% false to be widely disseminated without recourse while they are actively stifling conversation about evolving C19 treatments. 

I could find thousands of tweets and re-tweets about HCQ that are patently false, even completely stupid and defamatory, which didn't result in full or partial bans, or public discipline. What I am talking about is not 'evolving information' either, it's very specific lies which fly in the face of a collection of scientifically-accepted facts and meticulously documented stats, proven over the course of the treatments of millions of patients and over 1 billion doses of the drug.

IE, the side effects of HCQ are well-known after decades of large-scale, global usage, and there was an intense and inaccurate smear campaign about HCQ citing a wide array of completely falsified 'facts'. There were even accusations that the drug would make Trump and his cronies rich, despite the fact that it's off-patent, which means that anyone on the planet who can make HCQ can do so without paying royalties to it's original patent-holders. 

Edited July 29, 2020 by WestCanMan

[Boges]

18 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

IE, the side effects of HCQ are well-known after decades of large-scale, global usage, and there was an intense and inaccurate smear campaign about HCQ citing a wide array of completely falsified 'facts'. There were even accusations that the drug would make Trump and his cronies rich, despite the fact that it's off-patent, which means that anyone on the planet who can make HCQ can do so without paying royalties to it's original patent-holders. 

The video in question floated the idea that HDQ is a cure for COVID-19. There is no cure to Covid-19. And overwhelming number of studies have come out showing it's useless. And there are side-effects for people with heart conditions. 

 

Edited July 30, 2020 by Boges

[Boges]

Today Trump tweeted that the election should be delayed because many people may want to vote by mail.

Voting by mail is completely legal and in all swing-states, a registered voter can ask for a mail-in ballot without giving any reason. 

 

Edited July 30, 2020 by Boges

[Cannucklehead]

17 minutes ago, Boges said:

Today Trump tweeted that the election should be delayed because people may want to vote by mail.

Voting by mail is completely legal and in all swing-state, a registered voter can ask for a mail-in ballot without giving any reason. 

 

 

That guy is just too funny.  

[WestCanMan]

23 minutes ago, Boges said:

The video in question floated the idea that HDQ is a cure for COVID-19. There is no cure to Covid-19. And overwhelming number of studies have come out showing it's useless. And there are side-effects for people with heart conditions. 

There are studies showing that it is effective. The VA usage of the drug wasn't done along the lines of a study or a clinical trial.

The tough thing with HCQ is that it has such a low mortality rate, and such a low rate of even being serious, that you could give HCQ to ten thousand people and it would look awesome, but all ten thousand of those people might not have been affected by covid anyways. 

If this was something like a staph infection it would be really easy to test because there's a timeline for it that is fairly constant, but HCQ infection ranges from 'can't even get infected by it' to 'infected but asymptomatic' to 'mild symptoms' to 'normal flu symptoms' to 'bad flu symptoms' to 'severe symptoms' (a handful of people in ten thousand), to 'fatal to 8% of people with two or more co-morbities', to 'fatal to one in a million healthy people'. 

HCQ has proven to help people in the at-risk category, and that's all that really counts.

[WestCanMan]

44 minutes ago, Boges said:

Today Trump tweeted that the election should be delayed because people may want to vote by mail.

Voting by mail is completely legal and in all swing-state, a registered voter can ask for a mail-in ballot without giving any reason. 

1) Delaying the election is better than have a fraudulent election because of extensive voting fraud due to mail-in ballots. Anyone who really cares about democracy would agree that allowing election fraud to decide the POTUS is something to be avoided.

2) It's alarming that voter fraud is so easy in the US.

[Boges]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

HCQ has proven to help people in the at-risk category, and that's all that really counts.

Listen, if doctors think it may help someone who is already in the hospital, I have no problem with it being used. Though the FDA has removed it as recommended treatments for COVID-19. 

But the likes of Trump and the wacko doctors in this video claim it's a cure and it can be used to prevent infection. That's dangerous and misleading propaganda. 

Edited July 30, 2020 by Boges