America under President Trump

[Boges]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

If a Biden victory is such a sure thing, why are you debating the point at all ?

Why are the Democrats and Trump haters in Canada so nervous about an election they have already won ?

It's not certain. Polling looks good right now but that can change. 

But notice Trump frames even the most basic things as victories. Like a cognitive test used to test for brain damage. Passing that makes him smart now? 

So I expect any change in COVID-19 number despite him he'll claim as a victory even though he's washed his hands of responsibility in doing anything about the virus for the last few months. He even wanted to reduce funding for testing. 

 

[bush_cheney2004]

8 minutes ago, Boges said:

So I expect any change in COVID-19 number despite him he'll claim as a victory even though he's washed his hands of responsibility in doing anything about the virus for the last few months. He even wanted to reduce funding for testing.

 

Trump wins or loses on the economy, not COVID.   That's his game and he is sticking to it.

I just find it humorous that the Trump haters are still "not certain" because Trump lives rent free in their heads.

 

[Boges]

37 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Trump wins or loses on the economy, not COVID.   That's his game and he is sticking to it.

You don't think COVID and the Economy are completely intertwined? 

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I just find it humorous that the Trump haters are still "not certain" because Trump lives rent free in their heads.

You could say that about any politician any given person dislikes. Say that about anyone who thinks JT is a disgraceful corrupt politician. He's in your Dome!!!

Edited July 24, 2020 by Boges

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

Now he is, because his polls are in the toilet and the economy can't really open if people are afraid that they're going to get a serious virus. 

Protecting the democracy from mail-in scams is more important than a virus that kills 0.02% of the population or whatever it is. Socialism would kill way more than that. 

[Boges]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

Protecting the democracy from mail-in scams is more important than a virus that kills 0.02% of the population or whatever it is. Socialism would kill way more than that. 

That's some intense yet unsubstantiated rhetoric right there.

[Infidel Dog]

3 hours ago, Boges said:

He's been anything but a good example on this. Wearing a mask isn't a patriotic symbol. It's a demonstration of good public health, at this point. 

And he's been dragged kicking and screaming into caring about COVID-19 again because of his pathetic polling numbers. 

 

Again, his press secretary explained this. Too bad you didn't watch it. In the beginning the experts were inconsistent on how effective, if at all, masks were. Recent studies changed the consensus on this so Trump chose to make the odd public example reflecting it. Again though, to Trump, it is still a matter of choice.

 

Edited July 24, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

You don't think COVID and the Economy are completely intertwined?

 

No....the economy is much larger and more enduring than COVID.   Masks are just pacifiers to get/keep more things open.

Trump would lose if the economy tanked without COVID.

 

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You could say that about any politician any given person dislikes. Say that about anyone who thinks JT is a disgraceful corrupt politician. He's in your Dome!!!

 

JT is hosing Canada more than Trump, but Canadians hate Trump far more. 

Trump has baited his haters relentlessly, and they keep going for it...over and over again.

...they are so afraid that he might win...AGAIN !

 

[Boges]

Mail in Balloting is already possible in. . . 

Michigan
https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1633_8716_8728-21037--,00.html

Wisconsin
https://elections.wi.gov/voters/absentee

and Pennsylvania
https://www.votespa.com/Voting-in-PA/Pages/Mail-and-Absentee-Ballot.aspx

In all cases you have to be a Registered voter to get a ballot. 

[Boges]

1 minute ago, Infidel Dog said:

Again, his press secretary explained this. Too bad you didn't watch it. In the beginning the experts were inconsistent on how effective, if at all, masks were. Recent studies changed the consensus on this so Trump chose to make the odd public example reflecting it. Again though, to Trump, it is still a matter of choice.

The consensus has been changed for quite awhile now. 

You can get fined for not wearing masks in parts of Florida now. No warning. 

Many corporations are forcing people to use masks. It's not a matter of choice when you can't access a service without a mask. 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

That's some intense yet unsubstantiated rhetoric right there.

OMG am I ad-Libbing? Lmao.

1) Mail-in ballots is a TOTAL scamfest. No one wants mail-in ballots to protect the rights of 1% of the voters - that's a joke. Mail-ins are purely for scammers, just like allowing illegal immigrants to vote is a scam. 

2) The Dems platform is a mixture of stupidity, riots, forced vaccinations, and the politics of division. 

[Boges]

3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

No....the economy is much larger and more enduring than COVID.   Masks are just pacifiers to get/keep more things open.

Trump would lose if the economy tanked without COVID.

But the economy tanked, and will continue to be tanked because of COVID. Re-open the economy as fast as you want. If people don't want to participate the economy will flounder. 

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Boges said:

But the economy tanked, and will continue to be tanked because of COVID. Re-open the economy as fast as you want. If people don't want to participate the economy will flounder. 

 

Economies can tank for lots of reasons...Canada's economy was tanking before COVID.

Trump is still in the race and Biden knows it...when he is not napping in his basement.

 

[Infidel Dog]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

The consensus has been changed for quite awhile now. 

You can get fined for not wearing masks in parts of Florida now. No warning. 

Many corporations are forcing people to use masks. It's not a matter of choice when you can't access a service without a mask. 

To Trump it's a matter choice. States have a choice. Businesses have a choice. Individuals have a choice. Trump has a choice.

I'm not sure why I have to keep explaining this.

All I'm starting to hear now is...

[Boges]

5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Trump is still in the race and Biden knows it...when he is not napping in his basement.

Useless rhetoric. He's been campaigning as best he can in these condition. 

I note Trump can't campaign either. That's why he's doing these briefings again. 

Edited July 24, 2020 by Boges

[Boges]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

OMG am I ad-Libbing? Lmao.

1) Mail-in ballots is a TOTAL scamfest. No one wants mail-in ballots to protect the rights of 1% of the voters - that's a joke. Mail-ins are purely for scammers, just like allowing illegal immigrants to vote is a scam. 

2) The Dems platform is a mixture of stupidity, riots, forced vaccinations, and the politics of division. 

I noted examples in the most important Swing states where absentee balloting is already possible. 

[Boges]

1 minute ago, Infidel Dog said:

To Trump it's a matter choice. States have a choice. Businesses have a choice. Individuals have a choice. Trump has a choice.

Trump's handling of the virus is in direct correlation with his pathetic polling right now. Which has necessitated his change in "tone". this week. 

He has a choice and because of his his polling he's choosing a different path then the last three months that has led to an exponential rise in COVID. 

[bush_cheney2004]

8 minutes ago, Boges said:

Useless rhetoric. He's been campaigning as best he can in these condition. 

I note Trump can't campaign either. That's why he's doing these briefings again. 

 

Trump is the incumbent U.S. president, which means he has the campaigning advantages that entails, same as any other president.

Joe Biden has already failed twice at this...maybe his third time is a charm ?

[Boges]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

Trump is the incumbent U.S. president, which means he has the campaigning advantages that entails, same as any other president.

Apparently it's illegal to use State events to campaign. But laws don't really matter in the US anymore. 

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Joe Biden has already failed twice at this...maybe his third time is a charm ?

Polling would indicate. 

[Infidel Dog]

8 minutes ago, Boges said:

Trump's handling of the virus is in direct correlation with his pathetic polling right now. Which has necessitated his change in "tone". this week. 

He has a choice and because of his his polling he's choosing a different path then the last three months that has led to an exponential rise in COVID. 

I'd take your personal opinion on that more seriously if you could give me an example of Trump doing something similar in the last election when the Progressive Socialists' polls did not favor him.

BTW he says his campaign also polls and according to them he's doing great. Particularly in the swing states.

[bush_cheney2004]

3 minutes ago, Boges said:

Apparently it's illegal to use State events to campaign. But laws don't really matter in the US anymore.

 

It is not illegal to use presidential appearances to campaign.   All modern U.S. presidents have done this, even for down ballot races.

 

 

 

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, Boges said:

I noted examples in the most important Swing states where absentee balloting is already possible. 

1) Absentee voting is legit. Actual Americans, like soldiers abroad, shouldn't have to fly all the way back to the States to vote and it's ridiculous to take the votes away from those people, especially when they're serving their country.

2) Saying that "tens of millions of Americans and undocumented immigrants want to vote from home just because they're too scared to go to a polling station" is idiotic bullshit. 

The two issues can't be compared. It's like "I can't come to work today because I just lost my foot in a car accident" vs "I have to go home because I think I left my milk on the counter". 

[Boges]

4 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

BTW he says his campaign also polls and according to them he's doing great. Particularly in the swing states.

With no evidence. I don't know if you're aware, but Trump isn't terribly honest. 

He demoted his campaign advisor and has clearly changed his approach to the virus. Were those things done in a vacuum? 

[Boges]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

1) Absentee voting is legit. Actual Americans, like soldiers abroad, shouldn't have to fly all the way back to the States to vote and it's ridiculous to take the votes away from those people, especially when they're serving their country.

2) Saying that "tens of millions of Americans and undocumented immigrants want to vote from home just because they're too scared to go to a polling station" is idiotic bullshit. 

The two issues can't be compared. It's like "I can't come to work today because I just lost my foot in a car accident" vs "I have to go home because I think I left my milk on the counter". 

You're conflating allowing illegals to vote by mail with Registered voters from voting in order to avoid waiting in huge lines due to a pandemic. 

If you're a registered voter, you can request a mail in ballot? How is that fraud? 

[Infidel Dog]

27 minutes ago, Boges said:

With no evidence. I don't know if you're aware, but Trump isn't terribly honest. 

He demoted his campaign advisor and has clearly changed his approach to the virus. Were those things done in a vacuum? 

I didn't say he wasn't flexible or he wasn't capable of any of the nasty behaviour we've seen from LBJ to Obama.

I said polling by progressives doesn't appear to affect his policy. Shaking up staff is a Trump business strategy that predates his presidential campaigns and continued after it. Did he demote Parscale or Promote Stepien. Pretending you know is just being attracted to the negative.

And if Trump only wears a mask to pander to progressive polling why would he wear one, one day and not the next? That would give the Progressive media another opportunity to attack. Why would he do that? Why would he think that would increase his polling favorability with the Progs? Let me answer that for you. It wouldn't and he wouldn't.

Edited July 24, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[Infidel Dog]

Here's Trump's side of switching up Parscale and Stepien. Tell me why I should disregard it and prefer your TDS, confirmation biased negative reasoning. 

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The president said both Parscale and his successor “were heavily involved in our historic 2016 win, and I look forward to having a big and very important second win together.

“This one should be a lot easier as our poll numbers are rising fast, the economy is getting better, vaccines and therapeutics will soon be on the way, and Americans want safe streets and communities!”

A source from Trump’s 2016 campaign told The Post that Stepien “has earned the trust of the president, which is crucial.”

https://nypost.com/2020/07/15/trump-demotes-campaign-manager-brad-parscale-in-shakeup/