?Impact Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 Grandpa was a draft dodger as well. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Grandpa was a draft dodger as well. So was Bill Clinton (also impeached), but he was still invited over to the U.K. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
?Impact Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 Daddy made a fortune by finding loopholes to swindle the government of money intended to build housing for returning soldiers from World War II. Quote
Charles Anthony Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 Folks, Please avoid thread drift syndrome. Some of you should consider posting in the Presidential alternative fact thread or the Canadians FEAR Trump...Big Time thread instead of derailing this thread. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
Topaz Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 As I reported here, there are people trying to discredit Trump and make the people distrust him and now its out in the open. This is more than the Dems vs Reps., this is the elite within the US government. http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/spies-are-plotting-to-take-down-donald-trump-says-former-cia-operative/ar-AAn7UwY?li=AAggFp5 1 Quote
BubberMiley Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 10 hours ago, Charles Anthony said: Folks, Please avoid thread drift syndrome. Some of you should consider posting in the Presidential alternative fact thread or the Canadians FEAR Trump...Big Time thread instead of derailing this thread. Can you provide clearer guidelines as to what topics concerning the U.S. and Trump don't fall under the topic "America under Trump"? 2 1 Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
?Impact Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 27 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: Can you provide clearer guidelines as to what topics concerning the U.S. and Trump don't fall under the topic "America under Trump"? The title is quite wide open, but the OP does narrow the subject some. I agree that my last 2 posts were a bit outside the scope of this topic, so I posted another one in a status update but it appears nobody caught on to it (ski vacation). Neither of the 2 other threads that Charles suggested however are appropriate for the posts either, so perhaps we need a thread on Trump the man(?) and another on the Trump Empire. 1 Quote
OftenWrong Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 Trump is the ultimate mass media manipulator, forcing American news outlets into Obsessive Compulsive Trump Discussion Syndrome. Canadian media follows suit, of course, as this forum demonstrates. Just flip on the news- their mouths yapping, their tongues incessantly wagging, uttering the word that fills their thought every moment... Trump... Trump... Trump... They don`t even need to say much else, just say `Donald Trump`` and everyone stops to listen. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Trump The map shows the trends in America, as well as other countries. Quote
?Impact Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Trump is the ultimate mass media manipulator Yes, the google statistics are interesting to follow. Too bad we don't have google statistics dating back to 1938. The Trump peak in the google stats was the week of the election in November. There was a much smaller peak on the day of Inauguration (about 1/3 the election peak). Today it seems to be fairly flat, about 20% of his peak. There is a daily up/down pattern that peaks in the evening and drops off overnight, again rising throughout the next day to peak in the evening. If you contrast Trump to Obama, you get the exact same curve. The big starting point is the primaries, with a peak at election and smaller peak at inauguration and then flattening out (Obama had another peak during 2012 election season but smaller). The absolute numbers for Trump are higher than Obama, but it is not clear what percentage of that trend has to do with the person and what percentage with the evolving technology. We may have had google in 2008, but we didn't have the proliferation of handheld devices. Edited February 20, 2017 by ?Impact Quote
Argus Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 14 hours ago, Wilber said: Tomorrow. Should be interesting. Parliament to debate withdrawing state visit invitation Did parliament debate withdrawing an invitation for a state visit for any of the brutal dictators who have come to the UK over the past few decades? I don't approve of Trump, but what exactly has he done compared to those who have murdered thousands and tens of thousands of people? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
?Impact Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Argus said: Did parliament debate withdrawing an invitation for a state visit for any of the brutal dictators who have come to the UK over the past few decades? This debate was forced on Parliament by the people. I believe only 100,000 signatures are needed, and they managed to get 1,850,000. Quote
OftenWrong Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 1 hour ago, ?Impact said: This debate was forced on Parliament by the people. I believe only 100,000 signatures are needed, and they managed to get 1,850,000. This shows why "the will of the people" is not always upheld as paramount. People's opinions can be easily swayed and mislead through propaganda campaigns. Leftists have been very effective with their propaganda campaigns since the 1960's, when the communist international infiltrated western media and brainwashed young people with drugs and hippie songs. They used a simple formula, sex, drugs and rock and roll to captivate naive youth. President Trump represents the will of more traditional Americans, people with families, with two parents of different gender. They are the real backbone of society, without which we descend into madness. Quote
?Impact Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: People's opinions can be easily swayed and mislead through propaganda campaigns. President Trump represents the will of more traditional Americans, people with families, with two parents of different gender. They are the real backbone of society, without which we descend into madness. Right on #1 #2 is peoples opinions being easily swayed and mislead through a propaganda campaign by the biggest liar in history 1 Quote
OftenWrong Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Right on #1 #2 is peoples opinions being easily swayed and mislead through a propaganda campaign by the biggest liar in history Americans chose Trump fairly, democratically an legally. He resonated with their will, his message is the one they were waiting for. You have put the cart before the horse. Quote
?Impact Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 Just now, OftenWrong said: You have put the cart before the horse. America put the donkey before the cart Quote
Argus Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 2 hours ago, ?Impact said: This debate was forced on Parliament by the people. I believe only 100,000 signatures are needed, and they managed to get 1,850,000. And was there a groundswell of indignation and anger when China's dictator came to visit? Nope. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
-TSS- Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Argus said: And was there a groundswell of indignation and anger when China's dictator came to visit? Nope. Or the dictator of Kuwait. Quote
?Impact Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 Today Donald Trump's personal lawyer Michael D. Cohen confirms that he met with Ukrainian lawmaker, Andrey Artemenko, who is associated with a former Ukrainian leader backed by Russian president Vladimir Putin and advised by Paul Manafort (Trump's former campaign chairman). The meeting took place in January, and was setup by Felix Sater, a former Trump associate with a criminal past. Quote
BubberMiley Posted February 21, 2017 Report Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Argus said: And was there a groundswell of indignation and anger when China's dictator came to visit? Nope. Maybe they expect more of the U.S. That's what the whole idea of exceptionalism comes from. Edited February 21, 2017 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Guest Posted February 21, 2017 Report Posted February 21, 2017 1 minute ago, BubberMiley said: Maybe they expect more of the U.S. That could be the case, as it is with Israel. The soft bigotry of low expectations. I suspect, though, that the head of China simply didn't shine all their devices up quite as much. Quote
OftenWrong Posted February 21, 2017 Report Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Today Mike Pence met with Donald Task of the EU, and heartily confirmed that America under President Trump will be a strong supporter of NATO. Not the same old NATO. But a new NATO. Trump is setting a requirement for other NATO countries to up their military dollar value contribution to NATO operations. Makes sense. America under President Trump should not have to pay the most when it comes to the security of others. As the administrator once told me when I made a request, "In this time of fiscal restraint..." he was a brilliant man. The significance of this should not be understated, if you consider the implications (and I do). A stronger NATO is no friend of president Putin, after all. Lefties, are you reading this? Edited February 21, 2017 by OftenWrong added "The significance of this..." etc Quote
Topaz Posted February 21, 2017 Report Posted February 21, 2017 13 hours ago, ?Impact said: Today Donald Trump's personal lawyer Michael D. Cohen confirms that he met with Ukrainian lawmaker, Andrey Artemenko, who is associated with a former Ukrainian leader backed by Russian president Vladimir Putin and advised by Paul Manafort (Trump's former campaign chairman). The meeting took place in January, and was setup by Felix Sater, a former Trump associate with a criminal past. Apparently, that meeting was to find common ground to end the war or difference in the Ukraine,because PEOPLE have died and its time to stop the blood shed and there's nothing with that. 1 Quote
Argus Posted February 21, 2017 Report Posted February 21, 2017 Is it normal for the US president to appoint a serving member of the military to be his national security advisor? When was the last time that happened? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Posted February 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Argus said: Is it normal for the US president to appoint a serving member of the military to be his national security advisor? When was the last time that happened? Has certainly happened before.....Admiral John Poindexter...General Colin Powell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Advisor_(United_States) Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
?Impact Posted February 21, 2017 Report Posted February 21, 2017 I wonder if long time CIA analyst and spokesman for the National Security Council Edward Price would consider moving to Fox news. His work had influence on Presidents Bush and Obama, and if he wants to continue to have influence on the President then Fox news is the appropriate venue. Quote
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