msj Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 Perhaps too soon to ask, but does this mean Scotland has another referendum to leave so they can remain in the Euro? Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Guest Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Perhaps too soon to ask, but does this mean Scotland has another referendum to leave so they can remain in the Euro? The SNP will certainly push for it at the first available opportunity. Edited June 24, 2016 by bcsapper Quote
msj Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 If I were Scottish I would want another referendum pronto. Glad I'm Canadian and native Vancouver Islander so I can focus on our own separation from BC.... Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Derek 2.0 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 They count them twice. It looks like we're going to leave. I wonder if I'm going to be happier than usual that I have the right of abode in Canada over the next while. I hope it works out... I think it will work, I think the doom and gloom was just that.......My family is on the leave side, but to be quite honest I'm rather gobsmacked they won.....didn't see it happening after the last couple of week's events..........My sister lives in the West Midlands and rung us a couple of hours ago after Birmingham went Leave to put on ITV......sealed the deal pretty much. I hope Cameron stays on the rest of the mandate, they'll need stability through the transition......UKIP now has no reason to exist, I'd expect them to role into the Tories to further unit the right...... Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 Remarkable...change is good ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 If I were Scottish I would want another referendum pronto. Glad I'm Canadian and native Vancouver Islander so I can focus on our own separation from BC.... Sinn Fein just said that the Northern Irish vote should lead to a United Ireland. Quote
Guest Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 I think it will work, I think the doom and gloom was just that.......My family is on the leave side, but to be quite honest I'm rather gobsmacked they won.....didn't see it happening after the last couple of week's events..........My sister lives in the West Midlands and rung us a couple of hours ago after Birmingham went Leave to put on ITV......sealed the deal pretty much. I hope Cameron stays on the rest of the mandate, they'll need stability through the transition......UKIP now has no reason to exist, I'd expect them to role into the Tories to further unit the right...... Yeah, I think I'm probably not going to lose too much sleep when all's said and done. It is a huge surprise, and apparently, an even bigger deal. It should make for some interesting times. What with this on that side of the Atlantic and the US election on this side, the next year is probably going to be a lot of fun. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 Yeah, I think I'm probably not going to lose too much sleep when all's said and done. It is a huge surprise, and apparently, an even bigger deal. It should make for some interesting times. What with this on that side of the Atlantic and the US election on this side, the next year is probably going to be a lot of fun. Two years transition, so plenty of time.........they managed for centuries without being chained to the rest of Europe........With the win, I expect the Swedes will follow quickly.......then anyone else with any sense will bugger off....... Quote
Archduke al-Qaddafi Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 They made the right choice. I am very impressed. Quote
jbg Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 When Britain joined the European Common Market in 1973 both the UK and the European countries to which it was hooking itself were very different. The U.S., which had nursed Europe back to health after the devastation of WW II (which in turn had not really recovered from WW I) was stretched thin by Vietnam. The Watergate scandal was still hovering on a distant horizon but was developing. The U.S. was about to dismantle Phase II wage and price controls. The interim Smithsonian Accords of December 1971, which was a patch up of Bretton Woods, was about to collapse.Fast forward to the new millennium. The Cold War is over. The U.S., if not riding high, is riding higher. Britain is no longer a declining nation ready to sing its swansong. And the Common Market morphed into the EU, which was taking control of greater and greater day to day matters. Immigrants who can't readily be assimilated are overrunning Europe. In short, Atlantacism makes a lot more sense than further integration with Europe.Britain returned to a modernist path, abjuring Europe's retreat to statism/mercantalism, dressed up in the modern label of socialism. Time to "Brexit." Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
kactus Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Britain already has exited EU and the value of sterling has dropped by 10% already. Cameron has two years left to sign the papers but he has just resigned opening the path for new leader. This is not a good news for job security and economy. Atleast in short term. UK is an offshore economy. Edited June 24, 2016 by kactus Quote
G Huxley Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 Hooray for Brexit! Now Canada should do something about its own immigration problem and sovereignty. Quote
betsy Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Congratulations to UK for having the spine to leave. It's indeed the first step to putting the "Great" to Britain back again! And it's good that Cameron had resigned. The UK needs a strong leader. Edited June 24, 2016 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Britain already has exited EU and the value of sterling has dropped by 10% already. Cameron has two years left to sign the papers but he has just resigned opening the path for new leader. This is not a good news for job security and economy. Atleast in short term. UK is an offshore economy. I think mostly everything that's happening now isn't propelled by the economy. That'd just be secondary. Edited June 24, 2016 by betsy Quote
-TSS- Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 What a marvellous result and shame on me for being so pessimistic beforehand. Cameron quits as well. Quote
GostHacked Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 Britain was one that helped build the EU, Almost forcing it on Europe, and now they want to leave. This should be interesting. Quote
RB Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 I wake to the sound of music - UK speaking words of wisdom - let us be. This land is my land. Quote
Guest Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 More walls built by the old. The Donald would be proud of the British. The figures — published after polls closed on Thursday night — suggest that 75% of 18-24 year olds voted to remain in the EU, while 53% of 50-64 year olds and 59% of people over 65 voted to leave. The survey has prompted an outpouring of disappointment on social media among younger voters...http://mashable.com/2016/06/24/young-generation-brexit/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-uk-link#UYpN4gzMqmq6 Quote
kactus Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 Well well...Looks like Scotland wants its independence and Northern Ireland wants its sovereignty. Seems like Great Britain prior to vote results has turned into 'Little England after Brexit... Quote
betsy Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) It's odd that there's been so little discussion on this subject, given the insatiable news coverage and its potential to roil markets. Indeed. I suppose we're all minding the rules of this forum. Everything Brexit-related will all be in this one. Edited June 24, 2016 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 More walls built by the old. The Donald would be proud of the British. The figures — published after polls closed on Thursday night — suggest that 75% of 18-24 year olds voted to remain in the EU, while 53% of 50-64 year olds and 59% of people over 65 voted to leave. The survey has prompted an outpouring of disappointment on social media among younger voters... http://mashable.com/2016/06/24/young-generation-brexit/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-uk-link#UYpN4gzMqmq6 The "olds" know that you need walls! Especially in Europe. Quote
betsy Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Well well...Looks like Scotland wants its independence and Northern Ireland wants its sovereignty. Seems like Great Britain prior to vote results has turned into 'Little England after Brexit... What "Great?" Obviously the English didn't think so....thus putting the Great back to England, won! "Little" England is so much better than no more England at all! Edited June 24, 2016 by betsy Quote
Argus Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 The "olds" know that you need walls! Especially in Europe. That refrain is getting 'old' in itself. Some people around here who like to style themselves 'progressive' seem to feel anyone over fifty is somehow less thoughtful and intelligent than they are. In fact, there's a reason why no major corporation or organization and no nation on Earth decides to appoint young people to lead it. Young people generally lack the wisdom and the forethought to run anything, even their own lives, properly. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
PIK Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 What happened was the fact people are sick and tired of being told how to live and whom to live with. This is mainly over the immigration/migration that is going on. People are sick of having diversity shoved down their throats and called a racist if you disagree. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
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