Donald vs Hillary

msj · May 4, 2016

So the Republic is doomed!

I should have something more to say related to Star Wars but I gave up on the franchise when Jar Jar showed up so maybe someone else can come up with a smart ass pun or something.

BC_chick · May 4, 2016

Trump will become President! Mark my words.

Trump - being an outsider - won impressively. Sanders - being an outsider - is showing impressive results.

People are tired of the establishment!

My husband thinks so too so I told him to put some money on Trump while the odds are low. He quickly changed to a fence sitter. What about you, are you willing to put your money on Trump?

Personally, I think Clinton should thank her lucky stars she's running against him. She wouldn't have a snow-flake's chance in hell if she were running against Romney or McCain.

Next to Trump she is looking strong to seal the deal.

bush_cheney2004 · May 4, 2016

Good news....'Canadians for Clinton' bumper stickers are still available from the failed 2008 campaign:

http://www.cafepress.com/mypresident.179363419

Argus · May 4, 2016

For all the talk about how he alienated Latinos....I don't believe that. A lot of Latinos are sensible, practical folks.

Seems to me that would mean not voting for a guy who says he wants to expel about twelve million Latinos.

Argus · May 4, 2016

Personally, I think Clinton should thank her lucky stars she's running against him. She wouldn't have a snow-flake's chance in hell if she were running against Romney or McCain.

Next to Trump she is looking strong to seal the deal.

If Clinton gets in it will be because so many people rushed to vote AGAINST Trump. There seems little enthusiasm for her.

There's a lot for Sanders, but I think his ideas are just as unrealistic and silly as Trump's are.

bush_cheney2004 · May 4, 2016

Congratulations to Donald Trump on his successful 2016 GOP primary campaign....as he announced prior...he is the presumptive 1st ballot nominee. And he did so without spending a fortune.

Republicans and Independents were/are braver than the Democrats, who won't dump political insider Clinton in favour of a true socialist (Sanders).

As for all the Canadian shade and hate for Trump's candidacy, I said it didn't matter, because it doesn't.

Edited May 4, 2016 by bush_cheney2004

betsy · May 4, 2016

Seems to me that would mean not voting for a guy who says he wants to expel about twelve million Latinos.

What Latinos are those twelve millions? Illegal.

Like I've stated at the other thread, if we look past the ethnicity - Hispanics are regular people.

The policy that's important to you can also be important to them. Just read this one as an example:

"I don't think Cuban, I think American," said former Hialeah Mayor Julio Martinez, who, for two weeks, has held a Trump campaign sign outside an early voting site just blocks from where Rubio last week implored Hispanics to vote for him in Tuesday's presidential primary.

Perched in a lawn chair outside the John F. Kennedy Library, holding a "The Silent Majority Stands with Trump" sign, Martinez said he was backing Trump because there was "nobody better suited" to fixing the economy.

Martinez said he'd even persuaded his wife, Xiomara, to back Trump. She's been a citizen for two decades, though she was in the United States illegally for a time with a lapsed Nicaraguan visa.

"She said at the beginning, 'What are you doing? He's too rough on immigration,' " Martinez said.

"I told her, 'You walk into the house and someone is sitting on your couch, what do you do? You call the police. That is what he is saying.'

She voted for Donald Trump three days ago."

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/in-florida-donald-trump-finds-some-support-among-hispanic-republicans/2269150

"She said at the beginning, 'What are you doing? He's too rough on immigration,' " Martinez said.

"I told her, 'You walk into the house and someone is sitting on your couch, what do you do? You call the police.

That is what he is saying.'

That kind of rationale isn't exclusive to that guy in the article.

Edited May 4, 2016 by betsy

betsy · May 4, 2016

Seems to me that would mean not voting for a guy who says he wants to expel about twelve million Latinos.

I wonder how many non-Hispanic immigrants who'd complied with the legal process - who'd patiently waited in line - wouldn't be happy with that Trump policy? Jobs are taken by illegal immigrants. Legal Hispanic immigrants are also affected by that. That's a fact!

There are Hispanics who resent illegal immigrants!

LOS ANGELES — Francisco Rivera is a legal immigrant who delivered an impassioned speech to the Huntington Park City Council on Monday night, joining other residents in protest against their decision to appoint two illegal aliens to city commissions.
Rivera, who is originally from Jalisco, Mexico, told Breitbart News that he is opposed to honoring those who have broken the laws of the country. “You shouldn’t get special treatment or get rewarded if you break federal laws by coming illegally,” he said in an interview.

We are a country, yes. But in this country we have laws and rules and regulations that need to be followed. How can we become—how can we be a great nation when we reward people that come to this country illegally?

I don’t have anything against immigrants. But there’s a difference between “immigrant” and “illegal immigrant.”

And I ask myself: what part of “illegal” don’t you guys understand?

And by that, I’m thoroughly disgusted. And it’s very very sad, to be honest with you. And I hope that you guys take that under consideration. That, you know–not every immigrant that is here, is here illegally. And that’s the difference. Theres a right way to do things, and a wrong way. People shouldn’t get rewarded by doing the wrong thing. It’s not fair for guys like me. And it’s not fair for other people as well.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/18/watch-latino-immigrant-blasts-city-over-illegal-aliens/

(video of that long speech by the guy is available in hat site)

If it pays to be an illegal immigrant, why shouldn't immigrants from all over the world just try to enter illegally?

Come as a tourist, go underground.......and wait for a liberal government grant amnesty. Boy, you don't even have to go underground nowadays, from what I read in that article!

Edited May 4, 2016 by betsy

BC_chick · May 6, 2016

If Clinton gets in it will be because so many people rushed to vote AGAINST Trump. There seems little enthusiasm for her.

There's a lot for Sanders, but I think his ideas are just as unrealistic and silly as Trump's are.

Sanders and Trump may be polar opposites in policies but also in personality. Sanders is utterly unswayed by lobbyists and special interest groups and he stands by his convictions even when he knows it's political suicide. He is the most honest politician I've seen, if not the only one, and he has a long history of putting the needs of the people ahead of his own.

On the polar opposite flip-side, Trump is brash, greedy, angry and completely self-serving which appeals to different people for different reasons. It's remarkable, actually, how these two came out of nowhere and filled a void within both sides of the spectrum.

Hal 9000 · May 6, 2016

Sanders and Trump may be polar opposites in policies but also in personality. Sanders is utterly unswayed by lobbyists and special interest groups and he stands by his convictions even when he knows it's political suicide. He is the most honest politician I've seen, if not the only one, and he has a long history of putting the needs of the people ahead of his own.

On the polar opposite flip-side, Trump is brash, greedy, angry and completely self-serving which appeals to different people for different reasons. It's remarkable, actually, how these two came out of nowhere and filled a void within both sides of the spectrum.

Trump is also unswayed by lobbyists and stands by his convictions. In fact, unlike Hillary, he has stayed away from corporate money and publicly given notice to the very people he has done business with that there will be big changes that they will not like. He has also stood by his convictions to the point of losing business and giving up tens of millions of dollars. He has in every sense of the words; put his money where his mouth is. I'll agree that Trump is brash, maybe egotistical, but he is not self serving - at least not anymore than any other politician.

As a socialist, Sanders is swayed by special interest groups. Special interest groups go hand in hand with socialism.

It's not actually remarkable at all how they fill a void. Both political sides are sick of the status quo - which involves Hillary. The difference is, you like Sanders and hate Trump.

TimG · May 6, 2016

As a socialist, Sanders is swayed by special interest groups. Special interest groups go hand in hand with socialism.

So true. Look at how the caved to the Black Lives Matter SIG.

bush_cheney2004 · May 7, 2016

Donald Trump has been planning his political success for a long time.....he is far more entertaining than Hillary Clinton.

“Trump told us, ‘I’m going to get in and all the polls are going to go crazy. I’m going to suck all the oxygen out of the room. I know how to work the media in a way that they will never take the lights off of me.’”

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/how-donald-trump-did-it-213581

cybercoma · May 7, 2016

Trump will definitely be one of the most entertaining presidents ever. I can't wait for his inauguration.

eyeball · May 7, 2016

People are tired of the establishment!

Yep, ever since Wallace, George that is.

William OTOH was the real deal.

betsy · May 11, 2016

Here's the latest news on Trump vs Hillary:

Donald Trump closing in on Hillary Clinton in race for White House, new polls show

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/11/donald-trump-closing-in-on-hillary-clinton-in-race-for-white-hou/

Poll: Clinton, Trump run tight races in key swing states

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/10/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll-ohio-florida-pennsylvania/

Edited May 11, 2016 by betsy

betsy · May 12, 2016

The latest poll I've seen on tv today:

May 11, 2016, 11:16 am
Poll: Trump, Clinton in statistical tie
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are in a statistical tie in a head-to-head match-up for the presidency, a new national poll released Wednesday finds.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll showed Clinton with 41 percent support to Trump’s 40 percent. Nineteen percent of voters are still undecided.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/279523-poll-trump-clinton-in-statistical-tie

betsy · May 15, 2016

Remember what I've posted before? That there are lots of Hispanics who voted fro Trump?

Trump Wins In America’s Most Hispanic City

Webb County, Texas is home to Laredo, where 96 percent of its residents consider themselves Hispanic. Laredo makes up 95 percent of the population in Webb County and is the county seat. It has the most Hispanics per capita of any city with more than 100,000 residents.

One voter, Eric Barroso, told The Guardian he was leaning toward Trump and while he doesn’t support the Donald’s border wall proposal, he likes his personality. “I don’t support everything he says but a lot of the things, he’s not afraid to say it. I see that as a strong characteristic,” said the 42-year-old correctional officer.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/02/trump-wins-in-americas-most-hispanic-city/#ixzz48jqsP0Ey

Edited May 15, 2016 by betsy

betsy · May 15, 2016

Not only that. There was a new poll released last Friday:

SHOCK POLL: Trump Leads Hillary Among Hispanic Voters
Donald Trump leads Hillary Clinton by ten points among Hispanic voters, according to a shocking new general election match-up poll released Friday.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/13/new-poll-trump-leading-hillary-with-hispanic-voters/#ixzz48jrMwPJm

Here's the tweet from Trump:

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/731501778873749505

Edited May 15, 2016 by betsy

betsy · May 15, 2016

According to the journalist of Washington Post (at Face The Nation today), latest poll shows if Clinton becomes the Presidential candidate, 38% of Sanders supporters will vote for Trump!

Another poll says 44% will vote for Trump!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/05/10/1525186/-WV-Exit-Poll-44-Of-Sanders-Supporters-Will-Vote-For-Trump

Edited May 15, 2016 by betsy

betsy · May 15, 2016

I think Trump will also eventually win women votes.

Hillary is not the person who should use the women card (and that will play heavily against her).

Women are more concerned about security and economy.

Trump wins women by talking about the economy

May 15, 2016

http://nypost.com/2016/05/15/trump-wins-women-by-talking-about-the-economy/

Edited May 15, 2016 by betsy

waldo · May 15, 2016

Remember what I've posted before? That there are lots of Hispanics who voted fro Trump?

of course, after the waldo looked at your nonsense, your "lots" came down to 135 actual Hispanic voters!

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waldo · May 15, 2016

the Reuters/Ipsos polling is a rolling 5 day type poll (of some 1300 persons)... for that particular day being hyped, as I'm reading, analysis of the data shows there were no minorities identified (where there should be ~30% for a representative accounting) - the latest update on that 5 day rollover has Clinton back to a 4% lead... this is Clinton before Sanders official exit.

the OAN/Gravis poll (that has a Clinton-Trump deadlock) is being panned to no end: the ultra-conservative 'One America Network' sponsoring the most criticized "polling company" (Gravis Marketing) to... deliver! This, the same poll that somehow miraculously gives Trump a 10 point edge with Hispanics, where previous reputable National polling companies show such results as 90% of Hispanics having an unfavourable rating for Trump.

betsy... be more than cut&paste parrot! :lol:

Smallc · May 15, 2016

I am thoroughly convinced that Hillary Clinton does not stand a chance. She's one of the most unelectable candidates in history.

betsy · May 16, 2016

I am thoroughly convinced that Hillary Clinton does not stand a chance. She's one of the most unelectable candidates in history.

Aside from the scandals......her long visibility in politics (all the way from being the first lady to the present), associate her with the "establishment."

And we know that right now, there is a kind of "rebellion" against the establishment.

Hillary isn't going to represent any CHANGE.....no matter how hard she try to sell that idea.

Trump, however, does.

Edited May 16, 2016 by betsy

betsy · May 16, 2016

Here's the feedback from some women.

'I Don't Need Hillary 'Fighting for Me'': Female Voters Sound Off in Luntz Focus Group

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/05/15/female-voters-hillary-clinton-frank-luntz-focus-group-dont-pander-women

There's a video in that site which I can't access that says, women are now split on Trump, Clinton and the issues.

Women are not going to be making a big issue of Trump's alleged treatment of women.......otherwise, women wouldn't be swooning over George Clooney, or any Hollywood Heartthrob that used women as if they're kleenex.

People have to understand that for some women - maybe, a lot of women - power, wealth and fame are great aphrodisiacs.

Edited May 16, 2016 by betsy