Donald vs Hillary

Bonam · October 5, 2016

Who are you to say what is normal for Americans ?

I would say that the perspective of an outside observer can often provide better insights than the perspective of one trapped within a certain set of events.

bush_cheney2004 · October 5, 2016

I would say that the perspective of an outside observer can often provide better insights than the perspective of one trapped within a certain set of events.

Not better...just different. Lots of people who have never lived in the United States are self anointed experts because they watch so much American television and other media. Then they can't figure out how Donald Trump gets nominated or George W. Bush got re-elected. They are so "insightful" that way.

Edited October 5, 2016 by bush_cheney2004

?Impact · October 5, 2016

Lots of people who have never lived in the United States are self anointed experts

Just out of curiosity (I'm not disagreeing with your point), have you ever lived in Canada? b.t.w. I have lived in the United States, and yes legally.

Argus · October 5, 2016

I know lots of people lose their marbles whenever anyone says something bad about HRC (and given the alternative I can see why), but there are some differences between Trump's infidelities and Bill Clinton's.

No, there's only a difference in that Clinton, as president, had his private life held up to a microscope for years. Trump's past private life has mostly been ignored. The media were not watching what he was doing or who he was going out with for most of his life, not like they were with Clinton. Who even noticed his years long sexual harassment of women at his reality show until it was revealed last week?

Argus · October 5, 2016

Not when Bill Clinton was governor and president.

As opposed to Trump's crude sexual harassment of women on his reality show? That wasn't twenty or thirty years ago it was last year.

bush_cheney2004 · October 5, 2016

As opposed to Trump's crude sexual harassment of women on his reality show? That wasn't twenty or thirty years ago it was last year.

Was Trump a governor or president at the time ? Did he use state patrol or Secret Service resources to harass and/or sexually assault women ? Has he been sued for sexual harassment or assault ? Has he ever been impeached ?

eyeball · October 5, 2016

No matter how sleazy she is, she at least has a reason - her career. You people support her sleaze for a much shallower reason - to see a woman become president.

I'm pretty sure it's too see that a maniac doesn't get the job.

That said...go Trump go.

overthere · October 5, 2016

Trump may be the reincarnation of Rob Ford.

bush_cheney2004 · October 5, 2016

I'm pretty sure it's too see that a maniac doesn't get the job.

That said...go Trump go.

I don't see how that is possible from Canada....this election is not in Haiti.

Edited October 5, 2016 by bush_cheney2004

?Impact · October 5, 2016

Trump may be the reincarnation of Rob Ford.

Trump is a Rob Ford wannabe, but being born in the Philippines and adopted by a rich American he is not even capable of living up to the Ford legacy.

kimmy · October 6, 2016

No matter how sleazy she is, she at least has a reason - her career. You people support her sleaze for a much shallower reason - to see a woman become president. The "feminists" on this site should be ashamed of themselves.

So in addition to my earlier response to your message, I want to add that the accusation that people only support Hillary because she's a woman is a pretty cheap shot.

As I already mentioned, there's a long list of people both male and female, from both parties, who I'd rather see as POTUS than Donald Trump. It's not that Hillary's female and Trump's male, it's that Trump is a delusional megalomaniac losing his grasp on sanity right before our eyes.

I don't go around accusing you guys of wanting Trump to win because you don't want a female President.

-k

Hal 9000 · October 6, 2016

So in addition to my earlier response to your message, I want to add that the accusation that people only support Hillary because she's a woman is a pretty cheap shot.

As I already mentioned, there's a long list of people both male and female, from both parties, who I'd rather see as POTUS than Donald Trump. It's not that Hillary's female and Trump's male, it's that Trump is a delusional megalomaniac losing his grasp on sanity right before our eyes.

I don't go around accusing you guys of wanting Trump to win because you don't want a female President.

-k

Many people do support her simply because she's a woman - not all, but many. You can't tell me that given the same baggage, a man would still be in the running for president of the US. It's completely naive to believe different.

October 6, 2016

Many people do support her simply because she's a woman - not all, but many. You can't tell me that given the same baggage, a man would still be in the running for president of the US. It's completely naive to believe different.

Honestly, I think most people would support Hillary because she's not Trump.

Really, who the hell would vote for that tw@t?

?Impact · October 6, 2016

In it's 159 year history, the Atlantic has only made two recommendations for President. Now comes a third. They stated: we are mainly concerned with the Republican Party’s nominee, Donald J. Trump, who might be the most ostentatiously unqualified major-party candidate in the 227-year history of the American presidency.

kimmy · October 6, 2016

Many people do support her simply because she's a woman - not all, but many. You can't tell me that given the same baggage, a man would still be in the running for president of the US. It's completely naive to believe different.

Sure, and probably lots don't want her to win because she's a woman as well. Rudy Giuliani is one of them!

Given the same baggage? First off I don't think her baggage is all that bad, to be honest. For somebody who has been in politics for as long as she has, the "baggage" seems pretty light. A private email server and "Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi"?

Second, how much baggage would it take to disqualify a man from running for President? Bridgegate didn't stop Chris Christie from throwing his hat in the ring. Trump may arguably have not had a lot of baggage at the start of the campaign, he's got a freight train full of baggage now. He'll be lucky if he's not doing time after they get finished investigating his fake charity and his fake college and other shady business dealings. (pro-tip: if you're running gigantic scams, don't draw the attention of the entire world to them by running for POTUS.) And yet, nearly half of the voting public still wants him to be President. Baggage doesn't seem to be a big obstacle.

-k

Hal 9000 · October 6, 2016

Sure, and probably lots don't want her to win because she's a woman as well. Rudy Giuliani is one of them!

Given the same baggage? First off I don't think her baggage is all that bad, to be honest. For somebody who has been in politics for as long as she has, the "baggage" seems pretty light. A private email server and "Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi"?

Second, how much baggage would it take to disqualify a man from running for President? Bridgegate didn't stop Chris Christie from throwing his hat in the ring. Trump may arguably have not had a lot of baggage at the start of the campaign, he's got a freight train full of baggage now. He'll be lucky if he's not doing time after they get finished investigating his fake charity and his fake college and other shady business dealings. (pro-tip: if you're running gigantic scams, don't draw the attention of the entire world to them by running for POTUS.) And yet, nearly half of the voting public still wants him to be President. Baggage doesn't seem to be a big obstacle.

-k

The media has done a pretty good job on you if those are the only items of baggage you know about Hillary.

kimmy · October 6, 2016

The media has done a pretty good job on you if those are the only items of baggage you know about Hillary.

Please proceed, Governor.

-k

Hal 9000 · October 6, 2016

Sure, and probably lots don't want her to win because she's a woman as well. Rudy Giuliani is one of them!

Given the same baggage? First off I don't think her baggage is all that bad, to be honest. For somebody who has been in politics for as long as she has, the "baggage" seems pretty light. A private email server and "Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi"?

Second, how much baggage would it take to disqualify a man from running for President? Bridgegate didn't stop Chris Christie from throwing his hat in the ring. Trump may arguably have not had a lot of baggage at the start of the campaign, he's got a freight train full of baggage now. He'll be lucky if he's not doing time after they get finished investigating his fake charity and his fake college and other shady business dealings. (pro-tip: if you're running gigantic scams, don't draw the attention of the entire world to them by running for POTUS.) And yet, nearly half of the voting public still wants him to be President. Baggage doesn't seem to be a big obstacle.

-k

Tell me this; who leaked those emails on the DNC?

Smoke · October 6, 2016

Really, who the hell would vote for that tw@t?

Roughly half of American voters.

October 6, 2016

Roughly half of American voters.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Smoke · October 6, 2016

I'll believe it when I see it.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/polls.html

bush_cheney2004 · October 6, 2016

Honestly, I think most people would support Hillary because she's not Trump.

Really, who the hell would vote for that tw@t?

Agreed...there is no other compelling reason to do so. Her experience and qualifications couldn't even garner her party's nomination in 2008, losing out to a relative newcomer named Barack Obama.

The worst part would be listening to her shrill screaming for one or two terms. No wonder Bill got out of the house whenever he could.

kimmy · October 6, 2016

Tell me this; who leaked those emails on the DNC?

Guccifer 2.0? That's "the baggage"? The hope that you might still get that October Surprise that so many disappointed 4chan viewers were up all night waiting for earlier this week?

So it's the email server, Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi, and an October Surprise we haven't actually seen yet? Am I getting this right? Feel free to add to the list.

-k

Hal 9000 · October 6, 2016

Guccifer 2.0? That's "the baggage"? The hope that you might still get that October Surprise that so many disappointed 4chan viewers were up all night waiting for earlier this week?

So it's the email server, Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi, and an October Surprise we haven't actually seen yet? Am I getting this right? Feel free to add to the list.

-k

Seriously kimmy, if that's all you know about Hillary, and I honestly believe that to be the case, there's really no point even discussing anything with you.

However, if it was just the emails and the Benghazi, and you don't see any significance in why those are extremely important issues, then I'd really question you

Edited October 6, 2016 by Hal 9000

kimmy · October 6, 2016

People are so vocal about how they hate Hillary because of reasons, but nobody ever actually articulate those reasons. I'm just hoping for once to get some specifics.

I'm also not sure whether many Trump supporters even know why they're mad about Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi, or know much about it at all other than it's something that they believe is Hillary's fault.

-k