GostHacked Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 We didn't help. Get over your conspiracy theories. 'Theories' http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/pentagon-records-shed-light-on-iraq-airstrike-allegations-against-canadian-pilots/article26206766/ An English-speaking Peshmerga soldier told the U.S. military that as many as 27 civilians died during aerial bombardment by Canadian pilots, American military documents show. However, the Canadian military made it clear to the United States shortly after the alleged incident that it felt no obligation under the Geneva Conventions to probe what happened, the Pentagon records show. “It should be noted that Canadian Joint Operations Command [legal advisers] opinion is that, under the Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC) there are no obligations for the Canadian Armed Forces to conduct an investigation,” the documents say. These records were obtained from the Pentagon through a freedom-of-information request made by the military blogging website War is Boring. The documents track allegations of civilian deaths resulting from air strikes by the U.S.-led coalition, which is bombing Islamic State targets in Iraq and Syria. More 'theories' http://time.com/3814838/canada-bombing-syria-isis/ During Wednesday’s mission, two Canadian CF-18 Hornets joined eight other coalition jets in a sortie targeting an ISIS garrison near the group’s stronghold in Raqqa, Syria. The Canadian aircrew and aircraft returned safely to base following the raid. Quote
Argus Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 Who said nobody's checking them out? Did you make that up? . How do you check out foreigners from a war zone who have no documents or papers? It takes time, and time has been denied those who do such checks in order for the Liberals to keep a misguided campaign promise to go over there and scoop up warm bodies as fast as possible. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 'Theories' Yes, theories. Are you under the illusion these refugees are coming from the heart of the lands ISIS controls, which is where we bomb? Because they're not. ISIS has forbidden anyone from leaving. This is well-established. The refugees are coming from the general areas of fighting in and around Iraq and Syria, and of course, from other lands throughout the mid-east and Africa as opportunists see a chance to relocate to wealthier lands. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Hal 9000 Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 I can only hope that some of these other G20 leaders talk to Trudeau and straighten him out a little. I actually think he'll have a different perspective when he gets back from meetings. I can imagine that the Americans are wild about Trudeau's refugee plan. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Hal 9000 Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 'Theories' http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/pentagon-records-shed-light-on-iraq-airstrike-allegations-against-canadian-pilots/article26206766/ More 'theories' http://time.com/3814838/canada-bombing-syria-isis/ Here is a lesson, those of you who are gifted with clear sightedness. Chapter 59, Verse 2 (of the Koran). The soldiers of the caliphate, may Allah give them strength and victory, targeted the capital of abominations and perversion, the one that carries the banner of the cross in Europe, Paris. Eight brothers wearing explosive belts and assault weapons targeted areas carefully chosen in the heart of the French capital. The French stadium, during a match of two crusaders countries French and Germany where the imbecile of France Francois Hollande was present, the bataclan where hundreds of idolaters participating in a party of perversity were assembled, in addition to other targets in the 10, 11 and 18 arrondissement- all simultaneously. The ground of Paris trembled under their feet and its roads became too tight for them. The toll of this attack is a minimum of 200 crusaders killed and even more injured, the praise and honor belongs to Allah. I think we have to understand that it's not simply what we've done in the region, it's also because of who we are and what we stand for. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 Yes...a problem for PM Trudeau. It is...how do you say..."bad optics" now for Trudeau and his political campaign rhetoric and actions to disengage from direct military attacks against ISIS. The "support and training" back pedaling won't be good enough in the wake of the Paris attack(s). France is going to up their game, and Canada will be pressured to follow suit. Sunny ways ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 I think there's a way out of this for him. The funding extends until March. Stay until March. Quote
WestCanMan Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 Really, guys? It's not too soon for you to be using this tragedy to support your petty partisan views? Wow. This isn't an issue of "partisan politics", it was a central issue to some people not having confidence in Justin Trudeau in the first place. He played the wide-eyed optimist for his political campaign and he displayed an alarming lack of concern for very real dangers that everyone else in the world was acutely aware of. Not even 2 weeks into his term those dangers have come to the forefront. How much more danger are we going to be exposed to when his wide-eyed optimism brings 25,000 people in from the world's biggest terrorist hotbed? Isn't it at least a little bit concerning to you that his foresight didn't extend past 13 days into his reign as PM? Why didn't he play his eternal optimist card to Hollande or Obama yesterday? Is he already abandoning it? Will he stop fighting ISIS now? Is he still force-feeding us 25,000 refugees? Hopefully the reality of policing 10 million square kilometres of Canada from terrorism is finally dawning on him. That's a lot of malls, schools and other public places full of innocent canadians to be responsible for. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
eyeball Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) I expect my gov't to live up to their responsibility for me and my family regardless of campaign promises. As Canadian citizens our rights are paramount over prospective terrorists; any thing less than that is blood on the gov't hands Please protect my life and my children regardless of promises and ideology. I feel the same way about our government's refusal to do anything to stop allies of our's from supporting dictators. It puts the whole planet in harm's way. It's even worse than doing nothing about climate change. Dictators are worse than terrorists. Supporting them should be regarded as one of the highest crimes against humanity that can be committed. Edited November 14, 2015 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCanMan Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 What dumb policy, specifically, lead to this? Was it France's military campaign against ISIL or their failure to properly integrate their immigrant populations?My guess is that the "dumb policy" he is referring to is swamping our immigration officials with 25,000 refugees before January. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
eyeball Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 You can be sure Argus doesn't mean dumb policies that create conditions for terrorism to grow, he fully supports those. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Wilber Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 You can rant all you want, it doesn't change where we are now. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 I feel the same way about our government's refusal to do anything to stop allies of our's from supporting dictators. It puts the whole planet in harm's way. It's even worse than doing nothing about climate change. Stop allies ? Canada has been complicit in such actions...as a matter of foreign policy and protecting "human rights". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 You can rant all you want, it doesn't change where we are now. Agreed...Trudeau can run, but he can't hide from the "problem". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 A change in tone, it seems: Canada will respond with absolute resolution: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/dion-paris-attacks-absolute-resolution-1.3319151 Quote
Guest Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 A change in tone, it seems: Canada will respond with absolute resolution: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/dion-paris-attacks-absolute-resolution-1.3319151 Thicker blankets! More woolly! Quote
Argus Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 You can be sure Argus doesn't mean dumb policies that create conditions for terrorism to grow, he fully supports those. I'm not going to argue the same dumb question in multiple threads. I'm already dealing with this on the other paris bombing topic. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 Islam is the problem...pretty simple. The more there is the more of this there is. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
capricorn Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 A change in tone, it seems: Canada will respond with absolute resolution: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/dion-paris-attacks-absolute-resolution-1.3319151 Interestingly, Dion is a dual citizen of Canada and France. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Big Guy Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 Canada will respond to Paris attacks with 'absolute resolution,' Stéphane Dion says I hope that "absolute resolution" is to resolve get the hell out of there and let them fight their civil war. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 Interestingly, Dion is a dual citizen of Canada and France. Good point....don't make Stephane Dion mad 'cause there will be hell to pay ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCanMan Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 Foreign Affairs Minister Stéphane Dion says Canada will respond with "absolute resolution" in the fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria after the group claimed responsibility for a series of attacks that killed more than 120 people in the Paris area. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/dion-paris-attacks-absolute-resolution-1.3319151Trudeau campaigned that he was going to stop the bombing of ISIS immediately. How long ago was that? His lack of foresight is alarming. I think he could build a house and decide not to put a bathroom in it if he didn't have to take a dump while he was drawing up the plans. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
angrypenguin Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 Confirmed. Terrorist was a refugee from Syria. Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
WestCanMan Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Confirmed. Terrorist was a refugee from Syria. Damn, that's bad news for Germany. Edited November 14, 2015 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Derek 2.0 Posted November 14, 2015 Report Posted November 14, 2015 This country has always welcomed refugees but there is absolutely no excuse for not doing everything we can to ensure the refugees we take in will not be a threat to this country. This rush to get 25,000 in by the end of the year is totally irresponsible. The people who arrive a few months later will be just as grateful as those who arrive in December. Further to that, why would the GoC rush the process and put our security at risk when the refugees they propose to take are already in refugee camps outside the conflict zone? What would be wrong with instead sending further resources to said camps to help with their livability? Quote
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