Paris Terrorist Attacks

[eyeball]

Of course. They were the ones not holding guns.

Did any attackers survive in Paris or on 9/11?

[Smallc]

Did any attackers survive in Paris or on 9/11?

That depends how you define attackers.

[Argus]

Try this.

To repeat myself. Every nation on earth expanded as far as it was capable of doing so, pushing aside or conquering weaker neighbours and taking over their territories. Yet only among Muslim countries do we see this continual terrorism.

The bleeding hearts of the left keep frantically squirming around trying to find a way to excuse Muslims of their behaviour and blame it all on the West, but can't explain why no other group is behaving the same way. It's not like the West (and other countries) haven't interfered with the locals all over the planet, after all. The middle east was a violent craphole a thousand years ago, a century ago, and remains so today. You can't blame it all on us.

The people who flew airplanes into buildings in New York weren't the downtrodden, and the Muslims flocking to the Middle East to take part in the raping and killing aren't either.

Edited November 14, 2015 by Argus

[CITIZEN_2015]

Respond against who? It looks like the people responsible for attacking Paris are dead. Just like the people responsible for flying the planes on 9/11. They all died in their attacks too.

Sir with all due respect these murderous bastards were just the tools. They didn't act individually. Some others (much bigger than 8 people) organized and trained and armed them to carry out these attacks. Likely ISIS or whatever else should be responded to in a deadliest manner.

[CITIZEN_2015]

I knew we'd get to Israel eventually.

At least we agree on the response.

Please read my original post. I got to Israel at the very first place not eventually. They are largely responsible for creating so much hate and death by their murderous actions past 50 years.

[Derek 2.0]

He actually didn't.

Exactly and the concept of man-hours is a concept understood by anyone with a level of managerial experience, further compounded in Government......as such, compressing the current process that takes (as cited) upwards of 36 months (or longer) to process one claim, and fitting it into a timeline of ~46 days will require expanding the process nearly 25 times......in other words it is impossible to bring in the stated figure, within the stated timeline, with current resources.

As such, if Trudeau keeps his promise, he is potentially putting Canadian lives at risk, unless he brings them here and locks them up in camps under guard...........I'm watching CNN right now, and they are reporting that one of the attackers was reported to have been processed at a refugee camp in Greece.

[eyeball]

That depends how you define attackers.

The people that actually attack.

[Boges]

I'm not familiar with the minutia of the NATO charter but this might actually warrant a NATO response.

If 911 did, why wouldn't this? JT may be forced to support the war against ISIS now.

[Smallc]

The people that actually attack.

So the people doing the coordination and logistics are to be ignored, then?

[Guest]

Did any attackers survive in Paris or on 9/11?

So Harry Truman had nothing to do with Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

[Argus]

Please read my original post. I got to Israel at the very first place not eventually. They are largely responsible for creating so much hate and death by their murderous actions past 50 years.

They are largely responsible for not allowing themselves to be slaughtered and burned in ovens, you mean?

[eyeball]

So the people doing the coordination and logistics are to be ignored, then?

So long as people like Bush and Blair are ignored, why not?

[ReeferMadness]

I'll take 'What is the Free Syrian Army?' for 100 Alex.

What are 5 guys in a desert with $100 million in US military training and equipment?

[Smallc]

Exactly and the concept of man-hours is a concept understood by anyone with a level of managerial experience

Which I have and which was not your point. You're trying to weasel your way out of this, as usual. You said there would be 2 1/2 minutes per person. Your calculation assumed that there would be 1 constant person (always 1 person on duty) doing all of the screening. It was a mistake. We all make them. Get over it.

Edited November 14, 2015 by Smallc

[Guest]

Please read my original post. I got to Israel at the very first place not eventually. They are largely responsible for creating so much hate and death by their murderous actions past 50 years.

I meant the general "we". Not you specifically.

Obviously, the whole thing has to be Israel's fault. It just took someone to point it out.

[eyeball]

So Harry Truman had nothing to do with Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Did the citizens of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have anything to do with the imperialistic aims of their government?

[Smallc]

So long as people like Bush and Blair are ignored, why not?

What are you even talking about? Of course the leaders of a country are responsible for its wars. Of course the logistics stream is what makes it happen.

[Smallc]

Did the citizens of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have anything to do with the imperialistic aims of their government?

Most likely. Are you running off on some kind of tangent in the hopes of saving your point?

Edited November 14, 2015 by Smallc

[Guest]

Did the citizens of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have anything to do with the imperialistic aims of their government?

Did the heavy metal fans? We're digressing now.

Edit> To get back on point, the attackers themselves are rarely the only ones to blame.

Edited November 14, 2015 by bcsapper

[CITIZEN_2015]

And yet, here you are not rebuffing but spewing venom - because you CAN'T rebuff.

Would you like to demonstrate how the coup in Iran is responsible for the mess throughout the middle east, and throughout the Muslim world?

Yes good response this time instead of attacking me you asked for response.

The 1953 coup silenced the nation for many years while Iran's independence was sold out and the secret police tortured and murdered many in the following 25 years, the people had no where to go but the religious fanatics who were the only group left still resisting the regime and remained in their opposition to the America's puppet regime. Once the religious fanatics started the revolution ALL other suppressed groups (left, right, center, democrats, nationalists, .....) joined them in their revolution AGAINST their better judgement. They see the religious fanatics as the only group capable of overthrowing the very strong US and CIA backed regime so they joined them. Once the revolution succeeded then the fanatics pushed everyone else aside and took control. They started radicalizing the politics, stormed the US embassy, cut ties with the west an started EXPORTING extremism and Islamic militancy abroad to all over ME resulting in mess in Lebanon, Syria, Israel, Iraq, Arabia, Argentina and many other places ...etc. and eventually the mess we are in now. If Iran was left alone there would have been no religious fanatic revolution and no spread of militancy and Islamic fanaticism all over the ME.

Edited November 14, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015

[Argus]

You know, the actions of the US in the Philippines is textbook colonialism. A lot of locals were killed and the US ran the place for decades. Now they're free, but there's been terrorism there for decades.

But only from the Muslims.

Why is that?

The US once turned a lot of central and south American countries into 'banana republics', largely run by American corporations. But nobody from there is blowing themselves up or attacking American restaurants. Look at what the slave trade did to Africa, but are Africans launching terrorist attacks on the West? Nope. Well, except for the ones in northern Africa. You know. The Muslims. Some people here like to blame the US for supporting previous Indonesian dictatorships. Is there terrorism in Indonesia? Well, yes, but only from... yup, the Muslims.

Eventually even the progressives are going to have to deal with these 'inexplicable coincidences' and figure things out.

[Boges]

Did the citizens of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have anything to do with the imperialistic aims of their government?

I suspect that for Japan to get that far into Total War, where dozens of cities had already been bombed, there would at least be some broad support for the war effort fr the Japanese public.

[CITIZEN_2015]

I meant the general "we". Not you specifically.

Obviously, the whole thing has to be Israel's fault. It just took someone to point it out.

Again please read my post. I didn't say the whole thing was Israel's fault but the west (US and Britain and France in particular) and more so Russia.

[bush_cheney2004]

Did the citizens of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have anything to do with the imperialistic aims of their government?

Yes...many supported the imperialistic aims of their government. Same as Britons or Canadians or Americans supporting theirs.

[CITIZEN_2015]

You know, the actions of the US in the Philippines is textbook colonialism. A lot of locals were killed and the US ran the place for decades. Now they're free, but there's been terrorism there for decades.

But only from the Muslims.

Why is that?

The US once turned a lot of central and south American countries into 'banana republics', largely run by American corporations. But nobody from there is blowing themselves up or attacking American restaurants. Look at what the slave trade did to Africa, but are Africans launching terrorist attacks on the West? Nope. Well, except for the ones in northern Africa. You know. The Muslims. Some people here like to blame the US for supporting previous Indonesian dictatorships. Is there terrorism in Indonesia? Well, yes, but only from... yup, the Muslims.

Eventually even the progressives are going to have to deal with these 'inexplicable coincidences' and figure things out.

So you are saying it is best to become slave and not fight back for your rights, I don't think turning your other cheek is in Muslim culture but in Christian culture with which a great majority of Christians don't agree with either.

Something that you ignored because you had no response to was my EXPLANATION that the 1953 coup RESULTED in spread of Islamic militancy in ME and the mess we are now. I simply answered your question but you had no rebuff to my historic fact.

Edited November 14, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015