Trudeau's Committment to Syrian Refugees - 25,000 by Year End

[Rue]

Oh let's get back to this thread and get right to the point. Just Trudeau is a racist and liar. He is a racist because he poses Syrian refugees as trained monkees for photo ops. He used them as props.

To make it even more disgusting he took credit for bringing them in. He's a liar and a racist for doing that. He showed he considers them photo op monkees and then he played Bwana the great White Saviour of the savage monkey man he brought to Canada.

Him? He brought them? Bull. A lie. A bold and bloody lie. Churches privately sponsored these people not Trudeau-chuirches through the Haroer government and they were Christian not the Muslims the press and Trudeau pretended they were. Christians-you know the kind of people that get all tingly at Christimas. You know the ones with the crosses.

Trudeau and his pack of racist condescending, patronizing, elitist snot nosed sheltered sob's took a look at a picture. It wasn't a black baby-no no..it was a white one. Where was Trudeau and the whole pile of his bull shit liberal guilt ridden pack when black babies were showing up on the beaches hmmmm?

Not a damn peep? Did you ever hear Trudeau talking about bringing in refugees from Sudan, Rwanda, Burundi, Chad, Niger, Congo, Nigeria well?

You know..those coloured folks......tell me you people who come on this board and talk like some of us are racist for pointing out the bull shit refugee program, tell me...what about those coloured folks in Africa are they not human?

You'd never know it. Well Waldo-should we enhance Canada with them or limit the acknowledgment to just Syrian refugees?

Take a look Waldo. What Trudeau has done is perpetuate the biggest crock of racist exclusion Canada has known. In the name of Syrian refugees he has now been able to block refugees from the rest of the world-take a look at the real results of te Trudeau b.s. policy-it ignored the rest of the world's refugees and restates the world conflict as only applying to Muslims from Syria.

Hey having a problem with the agenda anyone, then just pick up the Toronto Star.

Trudeau is a bigot-a big, rich, phony bigot who props Syria Muslims like chihuahua's in a circus peformance. Sit up, bark, tee hee hee look at my cute little doggies-oh look there's one, give him a bone-tee hee don't pee there we have special litter boxes in Canada hee hee hee .

Trudeau makes me puke and I puke blue.

As for John McCallum that flying monkey from the Wizard of Oz summarized it all up for the Liberals. When asked to admit the Liberals could not get i 25,000 by Christmas, he showed the true Liberal, th snot nosed, arrogant, ascist, elitist, intolerant. two faced phonies that they are by saying and

I quote the toad faced sob; " I can count I am an economist".

Let me tell all you Liberal supporters and McCallum this. The Liberals used, they exploited the death of a refugee boy to make a false promise they knew they could not keep to manipulate emotions to get votes and portray Harper as a bigot against refugees.

It was a lie. An absolute and utter lie playing on liberl guilt. Well take your guilt and shove it.

They knew damn well Canada could not get 25,000 refugees from Syria into Canada Go on do the damn math. Which fool thinks a few Herculeses transports can bring in 25,000. Bring the fool before me and before I chop his head off have him explain how many flights it would take. Then tell him we have no transport planes he is mistaking us with some other Air Force.

Next he can tell me we should use navy ships. Lord love us. Go find one. The last one sunk years ago.

Canada. Oh we've been enhanced by a bunch of liberal guilt ridden jack asses who can't count and think if we kiss and hug a few swarthy types for a photo op we can call others bigots and feel good about ourselves.

Kiss my buttox anyone who calls me a bigot. I hate people especially the ones who claim to be sanctimonious and tolerant and feel enhanced byswarthy types. I find it the utmost in phoniness and the first sign of a bigot.

Go on any of you tell me how many refugees will be staying in Jony McCallum's or Justin Trudeau houses?

Oh wait, I want to hear the stories from you who call some of us bigots, how many refugees you are taking in and how tolerant you are of goats and the smell of body odour.

Tolerance my butt. When you line up at your hospital behind 250 of these refugees demanding free medical café we shall see how tolerant you are.

What a crock.

[waldo]

...tell me...what about those coloured folks in Africa are they not human?

You'd never know it. Well Waldo-should we enhance Canada with them or limit the acknowledgment to just Syrian refugees?

Take a look Waldo. What Trudeau has done is perpetuate the biggest crock of racist exclusion Canada has known. In the name of Syrian refugees he has now been able to block refugees from the rest of the world-take a look at the real results of te Trudeau b.s. policy-it ignored the rest of the world's refugees and restates the world conflict as only applying to Muslims from Syria.

normally your posts are tooooo long for the waldo to bother with; however, a quick scan saw you addressed lil' ole me... to that end, I agree with you that more refugees from other world areas should be relocated by Canada - good on ya!

of course, the current world-wide profile is clearly on Syria and the related ~4 million refugees associated with the ongoing war are taking precedence. Actually prior to the most recent years emphasis on Iraq and Syria, from 2004-to-2013, the following graphic presents a listing breakdown of the greatest number of refugees by country: ... not sure if this data matches the vitriol in your post, hey!

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[poochy]

.....and if your self-righteous, holier-than-thou, drive-by smear-everyone comment was in any way directed at me - I'll remind you that I've stated more than once that most Canadians who have trouble with people "who are different" most often change their tune when second generation immigrants and refugees come out of our schools and surprise! They speak just like us and act like us. That's because they are "us" All that's needed is patience, optimism - and a very careful approach to helping newcomers integrate to Canadian society.

Well he wrote the quote below and got completely away with it, so if you have any doubt about the allegiances of moderation here they should be thoroughly removed.

"It may be surprising that the right wing nut jobs will drone on about for instance how some Muslim men treat their wives, and then turn cheek and suggest that whacking their child upside the head is OK if they misbehave in some way. Perhaps even because Jesus tells them so. (which he didn.t) The hypocrisy is so obvious. Perhaps that is why numerous studies have found conservatives to be less educated and underemployed and more partaking of welfare services than their liberal counterparts who tend to be teachers and do well and pay taxes. Oh well. T'was ever thus I suppose. "

Trash comment followed by even worse moderation. But then if he makes a drive by insult at every conservative thats fine, but don't you dare respond in kind, even just to him, that just isn't done. Right moderator? How quickly will you remove this I wonder, in your clearly noble pursuit of a better forum?

[eyeball]

.....and if your self-righteous, holier-than-thou, drive-by smear-everyone comment was in any way directed at me - I'll remind you that I've stated more than once that most Canadians who have trouble with people "who are different" most often change their tune when second generation immigrants and refugees come out of our schools and surprise! They speak just like us and act like us. That's because they are "us" All that's needed is patience, optimism - and a very careful approach to helping newcomers integrate to Canadian society.

Is this supposed to sound more noble or realistic when a conservative points it out? When I do it's completely ignored.

[Accountability Now]

when the budget was almost in balance.

The budget was in balance. 2014-15 showed a 1.9b surplus. That was the last year of full control under Harper. This year still has a slight surplus according to the PBO but of course don't tell the spendthrift Liberals who want everyone to believe the masdive deficits soon to be seen have a Conservative stamp on it.

The reality is I care about a 1.9b surplus as much as a 3-4b deficit. Trying to hit the zero mark on a 300 billion dollar budget is not practical. In my eyes getting within a few billion is balanced.

[taxme]

It is time for Canadians to say enough already close the border doors we are full. We already allow into Canada hundreds of thousands of legal and illegal refugees every year. With 7% unemployment(2 million)how does bringing in another 25,000 refugees going to solve this problem? And I heard that the liberals are planning on bringing in 50,000 Syrians before it is all over. This is lunacy. The Federal government is planning on giving a family of four meal tickets which will amount to each new immigrant getting about $60. a day or about $5,880 a month for a family of four. When we have veterans needing help, kids going to bed or school hungry, or pensioners just making ends meet, we are going to look after a bunch of strangers that should not be entitled too any taxpayer's tax dollars at all. We need to stop feeling compassionate or emotional, and start using a bit more common sense and logic when it comes to immigration. We need a government that is not oh so politically correct.

[waldo]

We already allow into Canada hundreds of thousands of legal and illegal refugees every year.

citation request!

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[eyeball]

With 7% unemployment(2 million)how does bringing in another 25,000 refugees going to solve this problem?

Slowly or so it would seem.

Apparently we need to boost our population to about 100 million to create the wealth necessary to keep our society afloat and take care of all the kids, pensioners, veterans etc that you mentioned.

Assuming our fertility rates remain low, this means an additional 186,000 migrants annually, bringing our total immigration numbers to 444,000 per year.

Macleans

So...we need more people to tax or we need to tax people more.

[Smoke]

So...we need more people to tax or we need to tax people more.

Or we need to reduce our expectation that the government is there to provide us everything in life.

[cannuck]

If they're in Berlin, they aren't the refugees we're taking.

They differ only in the timing of their isolation in camps, I think you will find.

People adapt to the norm of what is around them, but it takes a bit of time. Take someone of a disfunctional, desperate situation where looting, bribery, treachery, murder, robbery are the only way to either protect your family or feed them, and rape and murder are the privilege of conquest, and they will not overnight become little clones of politically correct Liberalism. This is exactly why the problem is Berlin (and elsewhere - as they are re-settling a MILLION refugees).

We are, from what I have seen, taking the better approach - break the community up into as many fragments as possible and immerse them within Canadian mainstream. But don't think for a minute that the transformation into a beer-guzzling, hockey night in Canada couch potato will happen overnight.

Edited December 30, 2015 by cannuck

[cannuck]

It is time for Canadians to say enough already close the border doors we are full. We already allow into Canada hundreds of thousands of legal and illegal refugees every year. With 7% unemployment(2 million)how does bringing in another 25,000 refugees going to solve this problem? And I heard that the liberals are planning on bringing in 50,000 Syrians before it is all over. This is lunacy. The Federal government is planning on giving a family of four meal tickets which will amount to each new immigrant getting about $60. a day or about $5,880 a month for a family of four. When we have veterans needing help, kids going to bed or school hungry, or pensioners just making ends meet, we are going to look after a bunch of strangers that should not be entitled too any taxpayer's tax dollars at all. We need to stop feeling compassionate or emotional, and start using a bit more common sense and logic when it comes to immigration. We need a government that is not oh so politically correct.

I do understand what you are trying to say, but reality is that we are not "full". What we have are cities and reserves full of people who have no desire or intention to work. Otherwise, how do you explain the army of Asian guest workers it takes to run our fast food and hospitality businesses? Check the checkouts at almost any big box store these days, and you will no doubt notice that there are Eastern races galore who seem to be willing to do that work. During a recent project in the far North of BC, where aboriginal unemployment is HUGE, there were the same "newly arrived" faces behind every counter.

The real complicating factor is that we long-term resident immigrants (I am third generation) have bought into the US model believing that the world owes us a living, and we are "too good" to do any actual productive work. We all teach our kids that they are entitled to be a doctor, lawyer, Indian Chief (or banker, rock star, stick-and-ball hero, etc.) and need not trouble ourselves with the daily grind of making widgets, serving "the man", etc.

Worse yet, none of us have learned to invest into our own business and community. Instead of learning how an economy works, we give out $$$ to institutional financiers, who will "invest" in mostly speculative transactions - all of which leave no money behind to fund Main Street - where virtually ALL wealth is created by adding value to resources or delivery necessary services.

Finally, Canadians on average have some totally ridiculous idea that Government has any idea how to run an economy or business - and that we should turn to them to solve all of the problems that WE - by our laziness, greed and ignorance have created.

[Argus]

I do understand what you are trying to say, but reality is that we are not "full". What we have are cities and reserves full of people who have no desire or intention to work. Otherwise, how do you explain the army of Asian guest workers it takes to run our fast food and hospitality businesses? Check the checkouts at almost any big box store these days, and you will no doubt notice that there are Eastern races galore who seem to be willing to do that work.

Work for virtually nothing, you mean.

People coming from third world countries have very low standards in a lot of things. They don't expect to be treated well by their employer, or paid very well They don't expect to be living in a nice home or to have a car or other luxuries. They're content to have enough to eat. It's not surprising the fast food industry loves them. They'll show up every day, and work long hours without complaint for little pay because they don't expect anything better.

Is it your position that Canadian workers should have similarly low expectations of life?

Edited December 30, 2015 by Argus

[eyeball]

Or we need to reduce our expectation that the government is there to provide us everything in life.

Yeah well, start turning that notion on it's head starting at the top 1%.

You'll probably only have to smack the top 5% of that upside their head to start seeing tangible benefits for the rest of us.

[DogOnPorch]

Funny thing about communists...once they become rich they suddenly cease to be communists.

[eyeball]

And more reliant on the power of the state then ever before.

[DogOnPorch]

And more reliant on the power of the state then ever before.

No worries...the new guy is a true socialist. You can tell by the nannies.

[Shady]

No worries...the new guy is a true socialist. You can tell by the nannies.

Yep, the rich guy needs the little guy to pay for his child care. Pathetic.

[DogOnPorch]

Yep, the rich guy needs the little guy to pay for his child care. Pathetic.

I thought every home had their Alice.

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[Argus]

I thought every home had their Alice.

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"I'm entitled to my entitlements!"

A famous phrase coined by a notorious Liberal...

[WestCoastRunner]

Unless sponsored, 'Syrians' seem to not like Canada too much. But, I'm sure 50,000 can be found if one looks hard enough. Perhaps they can empty the prisons.

You still haven't provided facts. Do you have any information on comparison of 'benefits' between Canada and the other countries? You are the one that brought this up but you seem to lack substance.

[DogOnPorch]

You still haven't provided facts. Do you have any information on comparison of 'benefits' between Canada and the other countries? You are the one that brought this up but you seem to lack substance.

Oh dear...

[WestCoastRunner]

Oh dear...

Well then, I can no longer consider your posts as nothing more than hyperbole BS.

[DogOnPorch]

Well then, I can no longer consider your posts as nothing more than hyperbole BS.

What shall I do?? Oh wait....you mean you didn't already??

:D

You are a serious one. I'm sure you'll save the planet from the likes of me yet.

[WestCoastRunner]

What shall I do?? Oh wait....you mean you didn't already??

:D

You are a serious one. I'm sure you'll save the planet from the likes of me yet.

I guess you don't understand debates. When you are asked to provide evidence of your claims, you should provide them. Why didn't you provide them?

And I'm not sure what this has to do with the planet?

Edited December 30, 2015 by WestCoastRunner

[WestCoastRunner]

What shall I do?? Oh wait....you mean you didn't already??

:D

You are a serious one. I'm sure you'll save the planet from the likes of me yet.

What grade are you in?