Trudeau's Committment to Syrian Refugees - 25,000 by Year End

[Smallc]

Short term gain for long term paid. And raising the GST. Especially now is about as dumb of an economic policy as possible. You're just a stenographer for the new government.

Our infrastructure deficit is just as bad as our fiscal one.

[Smallc]

Meanwhile, the Old Age Security payment increases by less than one dollar per month for the period January 2016 to March 2016.

https://www.kelownanow.com/watercooler/news/news/Provincial/16/01/01/Canada_Pension_Plan_and_Old_Age_Security_will_Increase_in_2016/

That's because there was almost no inflation. Would Harper have made it go up more? On the other hand, this government has promised to raise GIS to life more seniors out of poverty and to introduce the seniors price index, increasing OAS further for next year (your complaint will be addressed). I expect that in the budget.

[Keepitsimple]

Prove it!

Link pls.

And don't show us that moronic email that's been circulating claiming benefits are $2400 a month.

It's wrong: The one time start up is ... one time, not every month.

Look it up, figure it out, back up your moronic claim ... or retract it.

You are entitled to whatever ridiculous opinion you choose.

You are not entitled to lie about facts.

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Here are those facts Jacee - while the vast majority of these refugees are privately-sponsored and thus will be short stays, government assisted refugees will have to stay longer until adequate housing and support is in place.......personally, I don't care - people have to eat and we have to support them until they are ensconced in the support mechanisms.......but it's not a lie - just a government making it up as it goes along....

According to the government solicitation notice, the hotels that would provide immediate accommodation must be within 10 kilometres of the airports in Toronto and Montreal. Bidders must be willing to set aside at least 50 rooms per night from Dec. 21 to Feb. 29. Each room will be expected to house up to four people, including children.

Hotels will also be expected to provide up to three meals a day.

“Note that it would be beneficial to Canada, for the contractor to have halal meal options available for refugees,” according to the document.

It states the government will reimburse up to $15 per person for breakfast, $16 for lunch and $30 for dinner.

Link: http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/government-hotel-bill-for-refugees-expected-to-near-80-million-by-march

Edited January 3, 2016 by Keepitsimple

[Smallc]

Here are those facts Jacee - while the vast majority of these refugees are privately-sponsored and thus will be short stays, government assisted refugees will have to stay longer until adequate housing and support is in place.......

Link: http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/government-hotel-bill-for-refugees-expected-to-near-80-million-by-march

And yet, that says something totally different than what Shady said.

[capricorn]

You'd think the government could have negotiated a better deal when they booked the hotel rooms. Why bother, it's only taxpayers' money.

[Smallc]

I mean, were you all expecting them to not be fed at the beginning?

[Smallc]

You'd think the government could have negotiated a better deal when they booked the hotel rooms. Why bother, it's only taxpayers' money.

Those are standard government meal rates.

[capricorn]

Those are standard government meal rates.

Well those meal rates apply to bureaucrats traveling on government business. A vast difference with refugees occupying hotel rooms paid for by the taxpayer until other accommodation is found.

[Smallc]

Well those meal rates apply to bureaucrats traveling on government business. A vast difference with refugees occupying hotel rooms paid for by the taxpayer until other accommodation is found.

In both cases, prepared meals are being purchased from hotels/restaurants. How is that different? Are the refugees worth less?

[Shady]

Most normal people would find that $427 dollars a week on just food is completely absurd. But go on, keep defending absurdity over logic and reason.

[Shady]

But symbolism over substance is how this government was elected. So I don't expect that to change in their policies.

[Shady]

Our infrastructure deficit is just as bad as our fiscal one.

Our infrastructure deficit is just as bad as our fiscal one.

Nobody borrows their way to prosperity.

[dialamah]

The rates are not extravagant for the situation, though the dinner could probably be cut down by maybe the cost of a glass of wine. Sure, they could probably leave the hotel and find cheaper food, but it might not be a very practical plan to hand them money and send them off to figure it out for themselves the day they get here.

[capricorn]

Most normal people would find that $427 dollars a week on just food is completely absurd. But go on, keep defending absurdity over logic and reason.

It's only taxpayer money.

[dialamah]

Nobody borrows their way to prosperity.

What, no successful entrpreneur ever borrowed money to get started? Multinational corporations never have debt alongside assets and massive profit?

[jacee]

Here are those facts Jacee - while the vast majority of these refugees are privately-sponsored and thus will be short stays, government assisted refugees will have to stay longer until adequate housing and support is in place.......personally, I don't care - people have to eat and we have to support them until they are ensconced in the support mechanisms.......but it's not a lie - just a government making it up as it goes along....

Link: http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/government-hotel-bill-for-refugees-expected-to-near-80-million-by-march

I get it. It's their first night or two upon arrival. Shady has catastrophized that to "$400 a week", but they won't be in hotels a week.

They immediately move on to their privately sponsored accommodation, or government sponsored army bases, etc.

At that point, if they have no funds or sponsors, they will get welfare rates minus whatever shelter and food is provided.

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[ironstone]

What, no successful entrpreneur ever borrowed money to get started? Multinational corporations never have debt alongside assets and massive profit?

Some entrepreneurs have borrowed their way to prosperity I'm sure.Which governments in Canada have done the same thing?

[jacee]

Most normal people would find that $427 dollars a week on just food is completely absurd. But go on, keep defending absurdity over logic and reason.

Yes, your claim is totally absurd, Shady.

Try to follow the info ... you know ... read the article. :/

It's only for a day or two upon arrival.

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Edited January 3, 2016 by jacee

[jacee]

The rates are not extravagant for the situation, though the dinner could probably be cut down by maybe the cost of a glass of wine. Sure, they could probably leave the hotel and find cheaper food, but it might not be a very practical plan to hand them money and send them off to figure it out for themselves the day they get here.

You can't claim booze on government expenses.

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[Shady]

Some entrepreneurs have borrowed their way to prosperity I'm sure.Which governments in Canada have done the same thing?

Exactly. I wonder after Justin is out of office, how much of the Canadian debt can be attributed to that family alone.

[ironstone]

I get it. It's their first night or two upon arrival. Shady has catastrophized that to "$400 a week", but they won't be in hotels a week.

They immediately move on to their privately sponsored accommodation, or government sponsored army bases, etc.

At that point, if they have no funds or sponsors, they will get welfare rates minus whatever shelter and food is provided.

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It could all fall under the category of taxpayer sponsorship.

[jacee]

It could all fall under the category of taxpayer sponsorship.

It is. I'm not challenging that.

I'm challenging Shady's inaccurate extrapolation of a day or two of hotel meal per diems upon arrival to 'per week'.

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Edited January 3, 2016 by jacee

[dialamah]

Some entrepreneurs have borrowed their way to prosperity I'm sure.Which governments in Canada have done the same thing?

When did Canada initially go into debt? How prosperous is Canada (Canadians) relative to the rest of the world? We don't seem too badly off, but perhaps I'm missing some important indicators that we have a lower standard of living (less prosperous) than 50 years ago.

[Smallc]

But symbolism over substance is how this government was elected. So I don't expect that to change in their policies.

They had a substantive costed platform. The Conservatives...not so much.

[Smallc]

Nobody borrows their way to prosperity.

Nobody crumbles their way to it, either.