Smallc Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 The report found the windows, plumbing, electrical systems, heating and air conditioning at 24 Sussex Drive are all in poor to critical condition. The home also has no fire sprinklers and contains asbestos, which has been linked to disease, including lung cancer. ----- In a 2014 interview with CBC News, Trudeau suggested his decision would be based on the advice he receives. "I'm going to listen to the experts at the National Capital Commission and others who will say what is needed in this situation," he said. "I'm certainly not going to try and second guess people who have been waiting a long time to do some repairs to a house that is apparently ... in poor shape. I think we need to respect various elements of our heritage, and that's where I will defer to the experts who actually run that house." http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/justin-trudeau-24-sussex-drive-1.3285314 Quote
sharkman Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 That's the report from 2008. Harper and his family lived under those 'conditions' for 7 years. He obviously decided that it was safe for his children, and saved the taxpayer 10 million or so. Trudeau seems have a different attitude in that regard. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 Well, lets see how much gets spent on the PM residence, which was good enough as is for Harper.24 Sussex Dr has been falling apart for years. It desperately needs repairs. It's not a virtue that Harper let it fall into disrepair as badly as he did. Quote
Guest Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) That's the report from 2008. Harper and his family lived under those 'conditions' for 7 years. He obviously decided that it was safe for his children, and saved the taxpayer 10 million or so. Trudeau seems have a different attitude in that regard. More likely that the required renos had to wait for the house to be vacated. Edited October 23, 2015 by Guest Quote
dialamah Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 That's the report from 2008. Harper and his family lived under those 'conditions' for 7 years. He obviously decided that it was safe for his children, and saved the taxpayer 10 million or so. Regardless of what he "thought", it wasn't safe for his children if the electrical is in disrepair, especially with no fire sprinklers, and he ought to have made sure the repairs got done. Putting one's kids into unnecessary risk isn't what I'd call responsible, if one has the means to avoid it and the PM of Canada certainly does. If he lacked that much care for his family, how much less must he have cared about the rest of the people in Canada? Trudeau seems have a different attitude in that regard. Thank goodness. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 It's refreshing that the effigy-issue for the new government has been put forward so quickly by our MLW crew. Question - what type of fixtures would you consider "luxurious" for the champagne-dispensing fixtures in the hot tub ? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
dialamah Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 It's refreshing that the effigy-issue for the new government has been put forward so quickly by our MLW crew. Question - what type of fixtures would you consider "luxurious" for the champagne-dispensing fixtures in the hot tub ? According to Margaret Trudeau, the champagne dispenser won't be touched ... just plumbing and roofs and all the things that keep a house standing [are repaired]." Quote
cybercoma Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 I Margaret Trudeau going to live there with them? I mean, isn't a bit weird to have a Prime Minister who still lives with his mother? heh Quote
dialamah Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 I Margaret Trudeau going to live there with them? I mean, isn't a bit weird to have a Prime Minister who still lives with his mother? heh Live-in Babysitter - since I imagine their income will disqualify them from the child benefit scheme, having grandma in to take care of the kids could be a money-saving initiative. I thought it was weird that she was referred to as Margaret "Trudeau". Didn't she marry someone else? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 ...isn't a bit weird to have a Prime Minister who still lives with his mother? heh Doug Ford lives with his mother, although that's not widely known. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
BC_chick Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 I Margaret Trudeau going to live there with them? I mean, isn't a bit weird to have a Prime Minister who still lives with his mother? heh I'm in trudeau's age group and I have kids the same age and in my circles many are living with the grandparents. Well, grandparents are living with the kids is probably more accurate. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
BubberMiley Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 That's the report from 2008. Harper and his family lived under those 'conditions' for 7 years. He obviously decided that it was safe for his children, and saved the taxpayer 10 million or so. Trudeau seems have a different attitude in that regard. He didn't save the taxpayer a cent. If anything, the repairs will cost more now because of inflation in tradespeople salaries and because he irresponsibly let it deteriorate all that time just because he didn't want to be bothered with it. Negligence may feel like frugality when it comes to home repairs, but it never is. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
dre Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 That's the report from 2008. Harper and his family lived under those 'conditions' for 7 years. He obviously decided that it was safe for his children, and saved the taxpayer 10 million or so. Trudeau seems have a different attitude in that regard. Sorry, but on what planet does delaying home repairs save money? Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
msj Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 Sorry, but on what planet does delaying home repairs save money? On planet penny wise, pound foolish? Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
-TSS- Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 You can use the same logic on the UK-elections as well even though there the Tories were the governing party and they got the majority. They didn't win but the opposition Labour lost because the people didn't trust Miliband. He just was not the mettle it takes to be PM of a major country like the UK and the voters knew that and therefore gave Cameron the benefit of the doubt as a lesser evil. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Guys, I was being facetious about Trudeau living with his mother still. I'm sure she's excited to get back into 24 Sussex Drive. And it's good that the children will have some stability with their father being the prime minister and all. Edited October 23, 2015 by cybercoma Quote
blueblood Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 Guys, I was being facetious about Trudeau living with his mother still. I'm sure she's excited to get back into 24 Sussex Drive. And it's good that the children will have some stability with their father being the prime minister and all. Good on her for pitching in with the kids if thats the case. As for repairs, i think thats a pretty reasonable expense to update 24 sussex drive. Id say complaining about that is sour grapes. Imo thats a perk of the job living in a cool house... Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
-TSS- Posted October 24, 2015 Report Posted October 24, 2015 I looked into the history of Canadian elections last night and one thing which caught my attention was that John Turner who became PM only for two months just to be defeated in a landslide election by the Tories led by Mulroney in 1984 yet the same Turner wasn't ditched and he was given the extraordinary pleasure to be defeated again in 1988. Quote
ReeferMadness Posted October 24, 2015 Report Posted October 24, 2015 I looked into the history of Canadian elections last night and one thing which caught my attention was that John Turner who became PM only for two months just to be defeated in a landslide election by the Tories led by Mulroney in 1984 yet the same Turner wasn't ditched and he was given the extraordinary pleasure to be defeated again in 1988. These things are case by case. The 1984 loss was attributed to built up frustration and fatigue with Pierre Trudeau who had been PM almost continuously since 1969. So, clearly the Liberals thought they they could win with Turner. With Harper, at the end it was clear that most of the frustration was directed at him and he had to go. And, BTW. By 1993, Canadians were so fed up with Mulroney that they turned on him from both the left and the right; and the Progressive Conservatives under poor Kim Campbell got just 2 seats. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
G Huxley Posted October 24, 2015 Report Posted October 24, 2015 Her nude photo with government garb helped. Quote
ReeferMadness Posted October 24, 2015 Report Posted October 24, 2015 Her nude photo with government garb helped. Who? Kim Campbell? Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
G Huxley Posted October 24, 2015 Report Posted October 24, 2015 Yep. It certainly didn't contribute to her victory. http://archives.radio-canada.ca/photos/med/fr/kim_campbell/kim_campbell_03_hr_fr.jpg Quote
ReeferMadness Posted October 24, 2015 Report Posted October 24, 2015 Yep. It certainly didn't contribute to her victory. http://archives.radio-canada.ca/photos/med/fr/kim_campbell/kim_campbell_03_hr_fr.jpg Don't recall that. When did she do that? And why? Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
G Huxley Posted October 24, 2015 Report Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) I remember it. I was 7 years old at the time. It was in the election year. She did it because she claimed she was trying to show that she was 'hip' and 'modern.' Voters ended up feeling pretty nauseous leaving the conservative party with 2 seats. Edited October 24, 2015 by G Huxley Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) The liberals did win but also more so yes the conservatives lost big time. As campaign progressed the nation began to realize the bunch of corrupt individuals the conservative party had become and then they witnessed clear desperation on the part of conservative party at the highest rank which included systematic lies about Trudeau, personal attacks, attack ads and negativity and all that ended with former leader Harper standing shoulder to shoulder with the notorious Ford's bothers especially notorious Rob Ford. In addition to all above these are a summary of this conservative government's achievements as some of many reasons why they lost BIG time. 1. Contempt of parliament 2. More than 150 billion dollars of debt 3. The Senate scandal(Duffy, Meredith, Brazeau and others) 4. C-51. 5. Income splitting implemented, despite only helping 15% of the population. 6. Dean Del Mastro, Bruce Carson, Bev Oda, Chuck Cadman, Arthur Porter 7. Repeatedly being in violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and fighting with Supreme Court 8. Ended Canada Post delivery in urban areas. 9. Fired Linda Keen for reporting an unsafe nuclear reactor 10. The only country who withdrew from the Kyoto Protocol Edited October 25, 2015 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
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