Michael Hardner Posted April 18, 2015 Report Posted April 18, 2015 Locking thread due to discussion deteriorating. Will reopen at some point. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Keepitsimple Posted May 2, 2015 Report Posted May 2, 2015 More trouble for Justin..... OTTAWA - Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau's courtship of the labour movement has hit a rocky patch. He's facing a backlash from labour leaders after Liberals complained earlier this week about parliamentary office space provided by the NDP to their staffers' union local. Three union leaders have sent angry letters to Trudeau, accusing the Liberals of unfairly dragging the labour movement through the mud in order to score partisan points against the NDP. And they're questioning the sincerity of Trudeau's commitment to labour rights. Link: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/trudeau-courtship-labour-odds-liberal-criticism-ndp-union-180338897.html Back to Basics
cybercoma Posted May 2, 2015 Report Posted May 2, 2015 Trudeau has no commitment to labour rights. Trudeau is nothing more than a feel-good conservative.
Keepitsimple Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Piling on poor Justin from other Labour leaders.... OTTAWA - Two more union leaders are accusing Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau of hypocrisy on labour rights. Unifor national president Jerry Dias and CLC president Hassan Yussuff have joined the chorus of union leaders who are furious that Liberals have criticized New Democrats for providing parliamentary office space to their staffers' union local. They've sent letters to Trudeau denouncing the Liberal move, following the lead of three other unions — the United Food and Commercial Workers, United Steelworkers and Canadian Union of Public Employees. Link: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/unions-war-path-over-liberal-criticism-ndp-staffers-185342216.html Back to Basics
Bob Macadoo Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Piling on poor Justin from other Labour leaders.... Link: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/unions-war-path-over-liberal-criticism-ndp-staffers-185342216.html Yeah....union leadership slagging a Liberal leader yet in the end forced to support them.....I wonder where I've seen that before?
Ash74 Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Yeah....union leadership slagging a Liberal leader yet in the end forced to support them.....I wonder where I've seen that before? Could not agree more. Like a corporation or businesses union leaders will complain about a politician but rally around them to get bigger piece of the pie when the contracts come around. I personally have no respect for Liberals. They are either NDP light or Conservative light which ever will get them the job they are after. I may not agree with the NDP but I respect the fact they take a stance. “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
PIK Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 And his story about the hurting middle class went up in smoke. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Boges Posted May 13, 2015 Author Report Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) Oh JT, you're the gift that keeps giving. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/05/12/trudeau-harper-benefiting-every-single-family_n_7269124.html Harper responded by saying his government’s “record of tax reductions” has helped “every single Canadian family in this country.” And that’s when Trudeau shot back with a remark that sparked loud heckling from Conservatives. “Benefiting every single family isn’t what is fair,” Trudeau said. “What is fair is giving help to those who need it the most.” The Grit leader went on to slam income splitting as a $2-billion tax break for the rich and deride the expanded tax-free savings account limit as something that benefits only the well-to-do. “Why didn’t he instead use every nickel to help the middle class and those seeking to join it?” he asked. “Mr. Speaker, you see what happens when someone goes off-script,” Harper responded to the delight of his front bench, who gave him a standing ovation. The prime minister reiterated that his plan was to “make life better for every single Canadian family.” Labour Minister Kellie Leitch quickly took to Twitter to call Trudeau’s remark “shocking.” She left off the second-half of the quote, though, about "giving help to those who need it the most.” Way to give the CPC the perfect soundbite. Edited May 13, 2015 by Boges
scribblet Posted May 13, 2015 Report Posted May 13, 2015 He just wrote the new CPC attack ad Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
PIK Posted May 13, 2015 Report Posted May 13, 2015 And if he won and he is discussing events with other world leaders, I just imagine what they will think .How Canada with a great leader that can sit down and talk shop with anyone could get rid of him. I can see Justin sitting their smiling while his handlers do all the work. How embarrassing that will be. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Keepitsimple Posted May 27, 2015 Report Posted May 27, 2015 As Mulcair increasingly takes the spotlight, Trudeau has receded into near irrelevance as his handlers keep a muzzle on him. I can only assume that they will try to change that when the writ drops - but the idea that they can fool Canadians all the way through to a coronation? That ship has sailed. Trudeau may surprise us yet......but there's been no indication so far that he has anything other than what we've already seen. Back to Basics
PIK Posted May 27, 2015 Report Posted May 27, 2015 The liberals need to get rid of the entitlement thinking they have had forever. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
On Guard for Thee Posted May 27, 2015 Report Posted May 27, 2015 Oh JT, you're the gift that keeps giving. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/05/12/trudeau-harper-benefiting-every-single-family_n_7269124.html Way to give the CPC the perfect soundbite. I guess if soundbites are your only game, and this one gave you a little thrill, great. I would rather have a finance system based on the economy and not ideology.
Boges Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Posted May 27, 2015 I would rather have a finance system based on the economy and not ideology. Good luck getting that with JT.
On Guard for Thee Posted May 27, 2015 Report Posted May 27, 2015 Good luck getting that with JT. I guess Mulcair is your man then.
drummindiver Posted May 28, 2015 Report Posted May 28, 2015 This thread reminds me I'm due for my afternoon cup of gaffee. Ha...too funny!
Derek 2.0 Posted May 30, 2015 Report Posted May 30, 2015 Hmmm, are Liberal knives are already starting to come out? From Scott "beer & popcorn" Reid: for the Liberals, the first hard truth to face is that it’s not working — at least not well enough. After a fairly brutal winter, the spring was supposed to be better. Duffy was back, like a bad rash across the government’s inseam. The Conservative budget was a long-delayed wet firecracker. Most of all, a new Liberal tax plan focused on fairness was supposed to land loudly – muting those who complain that Trudeau is light on ideas and weak on the economy. It was reasonable to expect that raising taxes for the rich and cutting them for the rest would generate a big echo. But oddly enough, it hasn’t. At least not so far. Which is a problem because Canada’s middle-class can’t vote for a plan that they’ve not heard about. And they won’t vote for a plan that isn’t made understandable to them. A renewed marketing effort is clearly required. I agree with Reid's intent, but his conclusion is flawed...........Even Don Draper couldn't spin Trudeau........after all, one needs something of substance to market.
PIK Posted June 1, 2015 Report Posted June 1, 2015 Ried brought martin down with one sentence. I wonder why harper never made him a senator. Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Boges Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Posted June 1, 2015 Scott Reid is a regular contributor to Newstalk 1010 in Toronto. If I ever met him I'd probably try to fight him. Dude is an absolute asshat.
overthere Posted June 1, 2015 Report Posted June 1, 2015 Good luck getting that with JT. I reckon you are on of those skeptics who does not understand that the budget will balance itself. Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Argus Posted June 3, 2015 Report Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) So Trudeau seems to have committed the Liberal Party to carrying out all of the recommendations, all 94 far reaching recommendations, of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. The cost of it all, is, as the Post says "incalculable" but Trudeau has admitted he hasn't even considered what the cost might be. Still, he's committed to carrying them out. Uh huhhhh. “On behalf of the Liberal Party of Canada and our Parliamentary Caucus, I affirm our unwavering support for the TRC’s recommendations, and call on the Government of Canada to take immediate action to implement them,” he said. Unwavering support. For the full list. No exceptions. Trudeau made no mention of the cost, or the practical implications involved. He hadn’t even considered the cost, he told one interviewer http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/kelly-mcparland-justin-trudeau-commits-liberals-to-a-promise-they-cant-hope-to-keep Edited June 3, 2015 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Keepitsimple Posted June 3, 2015 Report Posted June 3, 2015 So Trudeau seems to have committed the Liberal Party to carrying out all of the recommendations, all 94 far reaching recommendations, of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. The cost of it all, is, as the Post says "incalculable" but Trudeau has admitted he hasn't even considered what the cost might be. Still, he's committed to carrying them out. Uh huhhhh. “On behalf of the Liberal Party of Canada and our Parliamentary Caucus, I affirm our unwavering support for the TRC’s recommendations, and call on the Government of Canada to take immediate action to implement them,” he said. Unwavering support. For the full list. No exceptions. Trudeau made no mention of the cost, or the practical implications involved. He hadn’t even considered the cost, he told one interviewer http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/kelly-mcparland-justin-trudeau-commits-liberals-to-a-promise-they-cant-hope-to-keep Another solid plank in the Liberal platform......they'll be lucky to keep the 40 or so seats that they have. Back to Basics
eyeball Posted June 3, 2015 Report Posted June 3, 2015 Did anyone, like Sir John A for example, consider the cost of implementing the genocidal policies the TRC's recommendations address? A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 3, 2015 Report Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) Did anyone, like Sir John A for example, consider the cost of implementing the genocidal policies the TRC's recommendations address? Most certainly.....he valued such things to build a nation. MacDonald was your George Washington...what a guy, huh ?!? The government deferred such costs to the churches. Edited June 3, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted June 3, 2015 Author Report Posted June 3, 2015 Remember when people were predicting JT was going to cruise to victory. Now it looks like people are hoping the NDP surge will help prevent another CPC majority.
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