kactus Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) I didn't cleatly read your comment. It happens. I apologize. Still think your post was ridiculous and your anti Israel piffle is unoriginal, stale and been done done done. Shameful time to be a Zionist? Israel has been getting away with murder? Your deliberate ignoring of the terror campaign of stabbing innocent Israeli citizens now transpiring? This is the ridiculousmess I refer to. Shrill partisan name calling and selective take on conflicts. Shameful time for Zionists? Yah the civil war between Shiites and Sunnis, the world wide terrorist attacks by Muslim extremists, the collapse of the Arab world from its infighting, yah its shameful for Zionists. And this is what we call fishing from muddy water...wtf has shia/ sunni conflict got to do with attrocities of Israeli government on palestinians. Twisted logic to justify the means to grab yet more land from palestinians. Oh yeah thanks for broadcasting terririst attacks by moslems. If I wanted to know that I would go to relevant thread. Obama has long distanced himself from Bibi? Lol. Errm yes and quite rightly so. Here's a quote from obama to sarkozy:"I cannot bear Netanyahu, he's a liar," and Obama responded: "You're fed up with him, but I have to deal with him even more often than you." Yah it was one way and by the way Obama never distanced himself as well from Britain, France, Canada, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Germany, Russia, China. Lol. Damn can you be any more silly in raising Obama? Obama is a Muslim Brotherhood ally whose alliance with them. former Egyptian President Morsi and Erdogan in Turkey alienated him from Britain, France, Germany, Italy and Canada. When he made it clear he was distancing himself from traditiional allies not just Israel where were you? This is what I refer to ridiculousness of ge argument...I mean can one be more incoherent to make the mud stick!? I know bibi and and his government and infact a lot of his supporters don't like Obama and call him a muslim lover but dude you cannot have it both ways by saying he is a muslim brotherhood ally and yet Saudi Arabia (a muslim country) is distancing itself from Obama. I know you and bibi don't like the fact that obama's administration worked things out with Iran on nuclear deal but hey that's life. Germany sent state of the art submarines, China made a naval and military alliance with Israel and Greece made a naval alliance with Israel all known to NATO. Hell France has a military alliance with Russia.because of its distancing itself from Obama. India distanced itself from Obama.So what? Many countries change alliances with others and in the case of Israel and Greece is to piss them turks off, which Israel currently doesn't have a good relationship.What world do you live in where you judge Israel by its distancing itself from Obama? Tell you what, stand in an elevator after someone farts. Me, I leave and do did Netanyahu. Obama's farting is nothing one sticks around for. There I put it in easy terms to understand. Here's another one, Palestinians stabbing innocent civilians with knives are not victims of Israel for murdering them when they get killed. Its a concept called self defence.What world do you live in? kookooland? Next time you go and steal more land and build illegal settlements don't cry and expect a pat on shoulder. Nevermind if Obama farts cause Bibi has done plenty of that in his time at government that has backfired on his face.However I am well aware in your world, Jews have no right to be a collective let alone defend themselves....Don't shed crocodile tears...Get back to me when you can explain the rationale behind illegal expansion and building settlements in the occupied territories. If Israel wants to live by the example of a "demcracy" then it has to raise standards. On that note you see...I have distanced myself from you And on that note I am privileged...and by the way I do not find being a Ziionist shameful, Well considering tgere has been 'systematic' dismantling of the palestinian state with no two state solution and yet more land grabbing it is shameful. Edited January 23, 2016 by kactus
Big Guy Posted January 26, 2016 Report Posted January 26, 2016 Looks like Bibi Netenyahu sees everybody in the world as terrorists looking to destroy Isarel; http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/01/israel-west-bank-settlements-160126182742788.html Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has reacted angrily to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's comments about Israeli settlements, accusing the UN chief of "encouraging terror". So the UN is now encouraging terrorists. Since October 1, Israeli forces or settlers have killed at least 165 Palestinians, including bystanders, unarmed demonstrators and attackers. At least 25 Israelis have also been killed. Bibi keeps ignoring the rest of the world, building settlements on Palestinian land and killing any Palestinians who disagree. Those opposing him are "terrorists". Time for Canada to wipe our hands of any show of support for this rogue Israeli nation and join the rest of the world in the condemnation of their actions. Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Big Guy Posted February 1, 2016 Report Posted February 1, 2016 The differences between Israel and the rest of the world continue to fester. The head of the UN is getting fed up with Israeli illegal occupation of Palestinian land while Netanyahu thumbs his nose at the rest of the world: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/02/voices-concern-stalled-israel-palestine-talks-160201150655361.html Netanyahu has no wishes for any kind of solution short of the final solution - expulsion of all Palestinians from Palestine. Upwards of 600,000 Palestinians were expelled from their homeland and turned into refugees in neighboring countries during Israel's 1948 establishment. They have swelled into more than five million UN-registered refugees in camps across Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and the occupied Palestinian territories. I looks like Netanyahu is planning the final solution. Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Topaz Posted February 1, 2016 Report Posted February 1, 2016 IF Israel is ever found guilty of war crimes, where does that make the USA stand because they fed money to Israel at 10.2 mil per day or just over 3 billion + per year. Could they be charged also?
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 1, 2016 Report Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) IF Israel is ever found guilty of war crimes, where does that make the USA stand because they fed money to Israel at 10.2 mil per day or just over 3 billion + per year. Could they be charged also? No....that's not how it works. The U.S. has to give Israel billions in military and economic aid so that Israel can buy defense products made in Canada so some Canadians will still have jobs. The depleted uranium comes from Canada. Maybe Israel can buy some APCs from General Dynamics Canada...would help Ontario's battered economy just like that big fat Saudi contract. Edited February 2, 2016 by bush_cheney2004 Economics trumps Virtue.
Topaz Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 Better yet, why doesn't Israel become the new state of the USA, then maybe Israel wouldn't be at war with one 24/7, then again maybe they would. I'm sure many US low-income, middle income workers could use that billion.
Topaz Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 BTW BC, someone mentioned on here that you are an American, and I see u r a female and I hear Cheney daughter is running for a seat in government, and since u used the name u have, just wondering if u are HER, because I can't think of anyone who would want to use Bush/ Cheney as a name.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Posted February 2, 2016 BTW BC, someone mentioned on here that you are an American, and I see u r a female and I hear Cheney daughter is running for a seat in government, and since u used the name u have, just wondering if u are HER, because I can't think of anyone who would want to use Bush/ Cheney as a name. This is off topic....please to get back to Canadian defense contractors making parts and software for Israel's AH-64 Apache attack helicopters used in many "war crimes". Why Canada make money from war crimes ? http://coat.ncf.ca/ARMX/cansec/AH-64.htm Economics trumps Virtue.
Rue Posted February 6, 2016 Report Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) I know bibi and and his government What world do you live in? kookooland? Next time you go and steal more land and build illegal settlements don't cry and expect a pat on shoulder Well considering tgere has been 'systematic' dismantling of the palestinian state with no two state solution and yet more land grabbing it is shameful. I called Bibi, he says he never heard of you. I live in Mississauga. I have not stolen anyone's land but hey I know all we Jews look the same to you. There is no Palestinian state. There is a group of people who self identify as Palestinians and want a state, and no the geographic area where they live and their government has not been dismantled. Its there on the Gaza and West Bank. Kactus I have to go now and rob some land. Bye. oy gevalt now Jews dismantle sand and rocks. Edited February 6, 2016 by Rue
Big Guy Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) There are those who blame the Palestinians for being "extremists" in their actions. Perhaps they have become extremists because of how repressively Israelis have been treating them. http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/upfront/2016/02/160205144055234.html Ban Ki-moon, the United Nations secretary-general, criticized the Israeli occupation in an address to the Security Council last week. Ban said it was "human nature" for Palestinians to react to the occupation, specifically pointing to settlement building as a "provocative" action. The secretary-general states only what the rest of the world is starting to understand. The sooner Canada rejects any interaction with this nation then the better chance we have of avoiding getting involved in the conflicts that Israel is creating and planning. Edited February 7, 2016 by Big Guy Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
DogOnPorch Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 The Palestinian Cause is extreme due to its roots in both Nazism and anti-Semitism...plus supremacy over the Hashemites. Can't forget those two's blood feud. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Hoser360 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Posted February 7, 2016 I wish people took a good hard look at what is going on over their. When I was a kid I didn't understand what was happening but I still had a deep empathy for the Palestinian people, now, knowing what I know and listening to the BS spoon fed to us through north american media, the situation is just sad. All 3 major political parties in this country will always support Israel because the Zionist regime is entrenched here in Canada and the masses can't seem to differentiate between criticizing Israel for their actions against the Palestinians and antisemitism.
Argus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Do you have problem reading english? The post cleatly says systematic dismantling. What is your problem!?!? How can anyone dismantle what was never there to begin with? There has never been a Palestinian state to dismantle. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) I wish people took a good hard look at what is going on over their. When I was a kid I didn't understand what was happening but I still had a deep empathy for the Palestinian people, Me too! I did a 7th grade project which was way biased against Israel. Then I grew up. And I realized that Israel was and still remains the underdog who only wants to be left alone, and is surrounded by impaclably hostile regimes who wean every baby born in their borders on hate and religious fanaticism. Zionist regime is entrenched here in Canada and the masses can't seem to differentiate between criticizing Israel for their actions against the Palestinians and antisemitism. That would be easier to do if most of its critics weren't pretty clearly one-sided and obviously motivated by hatred for Jews. Edited February 8, 2016 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) The sooner Canada rejects any interaction with this nation then the better chance we have of avoiding getting involved in the conflicts that Israel is creating and planning. You keep saying that, and phrases like 'wash our hands' of Israel. Then in the next breath you eagerly proclaim how wonderful Iran is and demand we befriend them. Iran... who execute more people than any other nation on Earth other than China, who execute children, who torture and murder those who criticize the government, a brutal undemocratic theocracy. One wonders where your implacable hatred for Israel comes from given you clearly don't have any problem with governments which abuse human rights. Edited February 8, 2016 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
kactus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 I called Bibi, he says he never heard of you. I live in Mississauga. I have not stolen anyone's land but hey I know all we Jews look the same to you. There is no Palestinian state. There is a group of people who self identify as Palestinians and want a state, and no the geographic area where they live and their government has not been dismantled. Its there on the Gaza and West Bank. Kactus I have to go now and rob some land. Bye. oy gevalt now Jews dismantle sand and rocks. Too late for that. He has already lost his credibility with the rest of the 'sane' world (including UN) due to his 'systematic incoherent' behaviour. The comments is not directed at YOU to take it personal but rather the ideology behind thinking that it is OK to deprive certain people from certain land their basic rights and continue with expansionist policies of building illegal settlements in occupied land. Something that you don't seem to have a problem with to ignore the UN mandates and calls from the rest of the world. It is the Zionism dream of greater Israel....
DogOnPorch Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Too late for that. He has already lost his credibility with the rest of the 'sane' world (including UN) due to his 'systematic incoherent' behaviour. The comments is not directed at YOU to take it personal but rather the ideology behind thinking that it is OK to deprive certain people from certain land their basic rights and continue with expansionist policies of building illegal settlements in occupied land. Something that you don't seem to have a problem with to ignore the UN mandates and calls from the rest of the world. It is the Zionism dream of greater Israel.... How did Israel end-up holding the bag re: the West Bank? Surly there was some event you're not including in your post that could explain all this 'occupation' that has you so upset. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Big Guy Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 One of the few ways that Palestinians have to voice their oppression to the Israeli occupation is through their elected representatives in the Knesset. Now Netanyahu is trying to silence them there. He is trying to suspend them from the government: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/02/netanyahu-seeks-suspend-palestinian-politicians-160207132204345.html Their crime - visiting the relatives of Palestinians killed by Israelis. He jails people at will and we let him do it. Time to wash our hands of this regime. Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Argus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) One of the few ways that Palestinians have to voice their oppression to the Israeli occupation is through their elected representatives in the Knesset. Now Netanyahu is trying to silence them there. He is trying to suspend them from the government: Please tell us about the ways Iranians, Egyptians, Jordanians, Palestinians, and Saudis have to voice their oppression from their own governments. Israel doesn't have the death penalty, but the rest of the Muslim world uses it quite regularly, especially Iran. Palestinian governments execute people without trial. Edited February 8, 2016 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
eyeball Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Iran... who execute more people than any other nation on Earth other than China,Meaning Iran is a step in the right direction.It's high time we started making better choices about who we associate with. I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
sharkman Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Meaning Iran is a step in the right direction. It's high time we started making better choices about who we associate with. Which is, of course, an extremist view. Iran is a step in the wrong direction. As soon as they get their hands on some nukes you will understand this.
eyeball Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Please tell us about the ways Iranians, Egyptians, Jordanians, Palestinians, and Saudis have to voice their oppression from their own governments.Whatever the way they usually have to overcome the weapons, intelligence and other military/security aid we provide their oppressors. Unfortunately this doesn't leave many options that don't include violence. I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Which is, of course, an extremist view. Iran is a step in the wrong direction. As soon as they get their hands on some nukes you will understand this.China have their hands on nukes too so I still don't see the problem? I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
sharkman Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 That makes sense as Iran doesn't have them yet.
Big Guy Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 That makes sense as Iran doesn't have them yet. I will give you a challenge sharkman: There appear to be some posters here who have fallen for the anti-Iranian propaganda posted by those with their own dark agendas. I would recommend taking the time to view the following video of <sarcasm> "those scumbag and murdering terrorist Iranians and filmed by that Muslim terrorist loving media outlet - CNN".<sarcasm> While the focus is Iranian food it does give you an accurate view of what is actually happening in Iran and what the average Iranian is like: Iran To-day I suggest that you make up your own mind and then comment on this AMERICAN video. Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
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