DogOnPorch Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 All around loser and future President of Iran, Ahmadinejad, helps abuse innocent American embassy staff during the Hostage Crisis. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ea/Iran-hostages-b.jpg While you don't remember events like the above, apparently....plenty of folks still do. That you want to be friends with these murderers is baffling to me. But, hey....free country and all. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) How did Israel end-up holding the bag re: the West Bank? Surly there was some event you're not including in your post that could explain all this 'occupation' that has you so upset. You are being selective but I wouldn't expect more from supporters of an apartheid regime, who do not condone the illegal settlements. Lavon Affair. This is a type of regime you are dealing with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair While you may not want to remember events like above, apparently plenty of folks still do... That you want to be friends with these murderers is baffling me. But, hey who said life is fair. You are entitled to bring up the subject of Grand Mufti every now and then. Edited February 8, 2016 by kactus
DogOnPorch Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 You are being selective but I wouldn't expect more from supporters of an apartheid regime, who do not condone the illegal settlements. Lavon Affair. This is a type of regime you are dealing with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair So no clue, huh? I'll refresh your memory. The West Bank was part of Jordan post WW1. No 'Palestine' existed. In 1967, Jordan invaded Israel and LOST...badly. Israel captured the West Bank. I see no reason for Israel to give an inch back without a peace treaty. But, The PLO/Fatah were at Khartoum (1967) with the rest of the Arabs...are you too history-challenged to tell me what the results of that meeting (post 6 day War) were? Take a stab at it... Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Here's a link so you don't even have to search! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khartoum_Resolution Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 All around loser and future President of Iran, Ahmadinejad, helps abuse innocent American embassy staff during the Hostage Crisis. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ea/Iran-hostages-b.jpg While you don't remember events like the above, apparently....plenty of folks still do. That you want to be friends with these murderers is baffling to me. But, hey....free country and all. I don't think you even realise what you are posting... The picture you are showing from Wiki above is during 1979 hostage crisis in Carter's era... It has nothing to do with Ahmadinejad (Not that it is important but it is a clear misrepresentation of events...) Furthermore all those hostages have long been released. So what is your point or lack of it!? As BigGuy already stated there are some anti-iranian posters here with their own dark agenda. I am reluctant to say you don't know what you are doing but what you are doing is deliberate misrepresentation.
DogOnPorch Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Yes....and the young Mr Ahmadinejad is in the photo...1979...US Embassy. That's the US Press Liaison that is blindfolded. So....what happened at Khartoum? Any clues? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 A bit of the histor So no clue, huh? I'll refresh your memory. The West Bank was part of Jordan post WW1. No 'Palestine' existed. In 1967, Jordan invaded Israel and LOST...badly. Israel captured the West Bank. I see no reason for Israel to give an inch back without a peace treaty. But, The PLO/Fatah were at Khartoum (1967) with the rest of the Arabs...are you too history-challenged to tell me what the results of that meeting (post 6 day War) were? Take a stab at it... No need... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_(region)#Post.E2.80.931948
DogOnPorch Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 A bit of the histor No need... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_(region)#Post.E2.80.931948 What were the results of the Khartoum Agreement, kactus. Direct enough for you? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Yes....and the young Mr Ahmadinejad is in the photo...1979...US Embassy. Utter nonesense! I don't particularly like Ahmadinejhad but your statement that Ahmadinejhad was the captor of Amercian hostages is false...
kactus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 What were the results of the Khartoum Agreement, kactus. Direct enough for you? You are the one who claimed that Palestine did not exist... The article I posted states otherwise. Get back to me when you take a stab at it DOP.
kactus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Yes....and the young Mr Ahmadinejad is in the photo...1979...US Embassy. That's the US Press Liaison that is blindfolded. So....what happened at Khartoum? Any clues? Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the 1979 hostage crisis From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia On June 29, 2005, shortly after Mahmoud Ahmadinejad won the Iranian presidential election, several major news outlets publicized allegations that he gunned down several Americans in the 1979–1981 Iran Hostage Crisis. Ahmadinejad and his political supporters have denied these allegations. Even his political opponents in Iran have specifically denied the allegations. On June 30, 2005, US President George W. Bush declared that these charges were serious.[1][2][3] The United States Department of Homeland Security initially found Ahmadinejad ineligible for a visa to enter the US, citing "reason to believe" that he was involved in the seizure.[4] The US Department of State interviewed hostages about their experiences.[5] A later CIA investigation determined "with relative certainty" that he was not involved in the takeover. Another U.S. official said of the report that there was "no evidence" that he was among the captors.[6] Full article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_the_1979_hostage_crisis
DogOnPorch Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Utter nonesense! I don't particularly like Ahmadinejhad but your statement that Ahmadinejhad was the captor of Amercian hostages is false... Yeah...that's the line from the Iranian Government. According to those guys, nobody was involved...lol. But he was ID-ed by former hostages as well as Bani Sadr...oooops. But good news: The CIA says he wasn't involved in the actual take-over of the Embassy....just the follow-ups. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Back on topic: So....any clue as to what came out of the Khartoum Agreement or do I need to tell you? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 Yeah...that's the line from the Iranian Government. According to those guys, nobody was involved...lol. But he was ID-ed by former hostages as well as Bani Sadr...oooops. But good news: The CIA says he wasn't involved in the actual take-over of the Embassy....just the follow-ups. The point is....Ahmadinejhad was not identified as a captor DOP...No matter how much you wanna twist that story.... In any discussion it is good to know your limits and admit when you are wrong!
DogOnPorch Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 The point is....Ahmadinejhad was not identified as a captor DOP...No matter how much you wanna twist that story.... In any discussion it is good to know your limits and admit when you are wrong! As I've mentioned, he wasn't part of the takeover according to the CIA...but he was indeed there during the Hostage Crisis. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) So...what was decided when the Arabs signed the Khartoum Agreement in 1967? Here's that link again... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khartoum_Resolution Edited February 8, 2016 by DogOnPorch Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 As I've mentioned, he wasn't part of the takeover according to the CIA...but he was indeed there during the Hostage Crisis. No that is not what you said DOP....Maybe you have a short memory. You posted a photo of him from wiki linking him with the captors in 1979 hostage crisis... I posted the wiki link with the CIA confirming he wasn't involved....Anyone can see that here
kactus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 So no clue, huh? I'll refresh your memory. No 'Palestine' existed. Take a stab at it... No Palestine existed??? I refer to this article.... Ottoman eraMain article: History of Palestine § Ottoman era The Khan al-Umdan, constructed inAcre in 1784, is the largest and best preserved caravanserai in the region. In 1486, hostilities broke out between the Mamluks and the Ottoman Empire in a battle for control over western Asia, and the Ottomans captured Palestine in 1516.[71] Between the mid-16th and 17th centuries, a close-knit alliance of three local dynasties, the Ridwans of Gaza, the Turabays of al-Lajjun and the Farrukhs of Nablus, governed Palestine on behalf of the central Ottoman authorities.[72] In the 18th century, the Zaydani clan under the leadership of Zahir al-Umar ruled large parts of Palestine autonomously[73] until the Ottomans were able to defeat them in their Galileestrongholds in 1775-76.[74] Zahir had turned the port city of Acre into a major power partly fueled by monopolization of the cotton and olive oil trade from Palestine to Europe. Acre's regional dominance was further elevated under Zahir's successor Jezzar Pasha at the expense of Damascus.[75] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_(region)#Post.E2.80.931948
DogOnPorch Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) What I wrote is in print for all to see. My point continues to stand. So...kactus: What was decided upon at the Khartoum meeting the Arabs had in 1967 after losing the Six Day War they started? Edited February 8, 2016 by DogOnPorch Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 What I wrote is in print for all to see. My point continues to stand. You don't have a point DOP. That is the point...
DogOnPorch Posted February 8, 2016 Report Posted February 8, 2016 You don't have a point DOP. That is the point... Yes...I have a point related to this thread's topic: What was decided upon by the Arabs meeting at Khartoum in 1967? Are you ashamed to say? It was rather shameful. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Big Guy Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 All around loser and future President of Iran, Ahmadinejad, helps abuse innocent American embassy staff during the Hostage Crisis. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ea/Iran-hostages-b.jpg While you don't remember events like the above, apparently....plenty of folks still do. That you want to be friends with these murderers is baffling to me. But, hey....free country and all. I think we should be as friendly with Iran as we are with China and Saudi Arabia. How are they a "better" trading partner than Iran? Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
DogOnPorch Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 I think we should be as friendly with Iran as we are with China and Saudi Arabia. How are they a "better" trading partner than Iran? Big Guy....you're more than free to break bread with the murderers in Tehran. Getting me to do so will be another matter. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 Meanwhile: my question stands. What did the Arabs decide upon at the Khartoum Conference held after their defeat in the Six Day War? Can any of you pro-PLO types figure out the answer? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Big Guy Posted February 9, 2016 Report Posted February 9, 2016 Big Guy....you're more than free to break bread with the murderers in Tehran. Getting me to do so will be another matter.I have no intention to get you to do anything. You are set in your ways and good for you. I have no intention or plans to "break bread" with Iranians but would have no problems in trading with them just like with China and Saudi Arabia. Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
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