War Against ISIL

Derek 2.0 · February 17, 2015

After the recent threat from ISIS-Libya, it appears the Italians are now weighing their options on military action(Containment, not war) in North Africa.........Not surprised, like the French, the Italians have had illegal migrants flooding their borders from North Africa for decades, its not a mater of if but when we see ISIS inspired violence within Italy (Or maybe the Vatican?).....

GostHacked · February 17, 2015

I wonder what paved the way for terrorism to flourish in Libya. Hmmmmmm.......

Shady · February 17, 2015

I've put out that notion of them being former military personelle under Husseing's rule. It was laughed at.

You could be right, although I'm surpised that his former military personell are that bat-shit crazy hardcore. If that's the case, it's definitely a good idea Saddam was removed and they were ousted.

marcus · February 17, 2015

This is no different from the tribal savagery that always made much of the Middle East very dangerous. Back in the day they knew how to deal with the savagery. Hint, it was not Presidential speeches.

Here is more savagery in the Middle East, committed by Israel and Zionism:

jbg · February 18, 2015

Here is more savagery in the Middle East, committed by Israel and Zionism:

Were there weapons implanted in that complex?

GostHacked · February 18, 2015

After the recent threat from ISIS-Libya, it appears the Italians are now weighing their options on military action(Containment, not war) in North Africa.........Not surprised, like the French, the Italians have had illegal migrants flooding their borders from North Africa for decades, its not a mater of if but when we see ISIS inspired violence within Italy (Or maybe the Vatican?).....

Both France and Italy were all gung ho to take out Libya but then quickly backed out acting very weak. Now they want to pound the drums again only to back out shortly after?

Big Guy · February 18, 2015

Our fellow fighters against ISIS - the various Iraqi militias have been photographed beheading captured ISIS members. They are also accused of looting, torture, war rape etc. I guess they have learned from ISIS.

But they are the good guys on our side!?!

We are being played like a fine fiddle.

marcus · February 19, 2015

Were there weapons implanted in that complex?

Lots of men, women and children that the savages knew were there.

Rue · February 21, 2015

Big Guy provide the proof of who you refer to as "our fellow fighters against ISIS" beheading people.

You have again made allegations with no reference or proof.

You have also smeered Canada, the US and other nations involved in fighting ISIL claiming we support this alleged behaviour.

Prove it.

Your tactic of coming on this board and smeering through unsubstantiated allegation has grown tiresome. Put up or shut up.

Big Guy · February 21, 2015

Great deal Rue!

Try;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11087584/Iraqi-Shia-militia-who-fought-Isil-condemned-for-revenge-beheadings.html

Your responses to my posts are really becoming a tiresome pain.

So now will you quit bothering me - please!

Edited February 21, 2015 by Big Guy

WWWTT · February 21, 2015

Why don't we just go to war with Hollywood?

Seems like the theme here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2963039/Does-Isis-really-army-seven-foot-executioners-Experts-say-footage-beheading-Christians-Libya-FAKE.html

WWWTT

Topaz · February 22, 2015

Again, I ask why has 19 countries fighting against ISIS been able to defeat them?? Could it be that this is all a pretense to go in and take over and destroy the economic and get control over the Middle-East and what better way to do it then to create a terrorist group. I know many will not believe this but greed and power does unbelievable things to people. I guess that oil and gas pipeline can't be built to EU, until this "war is over". IF you do not think this COULD be so, fine, but at least have an open mind and read the following article. I just finished reading Operation:Gladio and if you find the book or go to Amazon to read the topic, you have have some doubts of what is going on in the world and why the Harper government, who loves America is doing what its doing, OR he's just completely blind of what's going on. http://www.globalresearch.ca/obamas-fake-war-against-the-islamic-state-isis-the-islamic-state-is-protected-by-the-us-and-its-allies/5432163

Michael Hardner · February 22, 2015

Again, I ask why has 19 countries fighting against ISIS been able to defeat them?? Could it be that this is all a pretense to go in and take over and destroy the economic and get control over the Middle-East and what better way to do it then to create a terrorist group.

The group only makes sense in light of the events of the last 15-25 years, so a plan to 'go in and take over' would likely have been more direct, cheaper and more successful.

WWWTT · February 22, 2015

Again, I ask why has 19 countries fighting against ISIS been able to defeat them?? Could it be that this is all a pretense to go in and take over and destroy the economic and get control over the Middle-East and what better way to do it then to create a terrorist group.

There's lots of evidence pointing in this direction.

US state terrorism and destroying the economies of central middle east appear to be the main goal in all of this.

Of course there are those posters here on this site that are gleeful when Harper announces more airstrikes. Don't bother trying to convince those that got their fingers in their ears singing "lalalala I can't hear you!"

WWWTT

Topaz · February 22, 2015

Yeah, well the author of the book I read said when info. comes out online in social media, the government have people online to defend or say "tinfoil" or "conspiracy" to rule it out of topic. 14 years is a long time to do research and I do believe the author and with tech. today, those in power are going to find it more difficult to keep the truth from coming out.

Big Guy · February 22, 2015

Topaz - I really believe the West had grossly underestimated ISIL. We still have little clue of who we are fighting. It has been reported that ISIS is posting between 90,000 and 200,000 messages on social media every day.

I see that the USA has reported that the 25,000 soldiers of Kurds and the "NEW" Iraqi army (with American "trainers" and full air support from the coalition of the dumb) will be attacking and re-taking Mosul in the very near future. They estimate that between 1,000 and 2,000 ISIS fighters currently control Mosul. With about a 25 to 1 ratio of soldiers and full air support this should be a cake walk.

BUT - Mosul is a city of over a million people. The 1 to 2 thousand ISIS troops could not possibly be in control if they did not have the support of the locals. Why does the coalition of the dumb not explain that to their citizens? We are not liberating anything - we are invading - again and again and again!

Topaz - I believe that we are being played like a fine fiddle!

Edited February 22, 2015 by Big Guy

bush_cheney2004 · February 22, 2015

Fear not....for as soon as Justin Trudeau is PM of Canada, "soft power" and nice warm blankets will win the day.

The world awaits Canada's next election....won't be long now.

GostHacked · February 22, 2015

Fear not....for as soon as Justin Trudeau is PM of Canada, "soft power" and nice warm blankets will win the day.

The world awaits Canada's next election....won't be long now.

Because we know the result of the Hard Power of the Bush Cheney regime.

Rue · February 23, 2015

Fear not....for as soon as Justin Trudeau is PM of Canada, "soft power" and nice warm blankets will win the day.

The world awaits Canada's next election....won't be long now.

Stop threatening me like that. Its frightening.

Rue · February 23, 2015

Because we know the result of the Hard Power of the Bush Cheney regime.

Yes and we now also know the result of the impotence of the Obama regime which Trudeau wishes to mimmick.

Big Guy · February 23, 2015

Egypt's president has suggested the creation of an "all-Arab" military force. His stated reason is to fight ISIS.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.643693

While the immediate reaction might be a positive one, the USA is not too enthusiastic about the idea.

An Egypt, Jordan, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Saudi et al military backed up by oil $billions would certainly change the atmosphere in the Middle East. I doubt if Israel would be very happy about such a co-ordinated military force. The Americans have been encouraging more participation by Arab states but under the direction of the USA. If all these Arab states get together to form a massive Middle East military force they won't need the Americans and could challenge the Israelis.

An interesting development.

Derek 2.0 · February 23, 2015

Egypt's president has suggested the creation of an "all-Arab" military force. His stated reason is to fight ISIS.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.643693

While the immediate reaction might be a positive one, the USA is not too enthusiastic about the idea.

An Egypt, Jordan, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Saudi et al military backed up by oil $billions would certainly change the atmosphere in the Middle East. I doubt if Israel would be very happy about such a co-ordinated military force. The Americans have been encouraging more participation by Arab states but under the direction of the USA. If all these Arab states get together to form a massive Middle East military force they won't need the Americans and could challenge the Israelis.

An interesting development.

So does that mean said nations will no longer require annual US military aide?

And could challenge Israel? You mean like a united Arab force did in 1948, 1967 and 1973?

On Guard for Thee · February 23, 2015

We never get a clear answer on that. It's a question that has been lingering since 9/11. How do you defeat terrorists?

I've put out that notion of them being former military personelle under Husseing's rule. It was laughed at.

Whoever laughed obviously dont know s**t about what really happened.

Hudson Jones · February 23, 2015

So does that mean said nations will no longer require annual US military aide?

And could challenge Israel? You mean like a united Arab force did in 1948, 1967 and 1973?

All those governments are friendly towards Israel. They don't like to admit it in front of their people and will still huff and puff by making comments about how Palestinians are being abused, however, Saudi, Egypt and Jordan are all buddies with U.S. and Israel. The support (both military and political) they receive from the U.S. helps the dictators stay in power and they enjoy the status quo.