This week in Islam

[OftenWrong]

2 hours ago, Argus said:

Not necessarily. I think Boris Johnson kind of fits your description of a bit of a rude boor, but on the other hand I think Jacob Rees Mogg can speak plainly without being a boor. Then there's Theresa May, who starts off her appearance at a Tory convention reciting her favorite verses from the Koran to show how unbiased and inclusive she is...

We have a PM who shouts anybody down if they dare to give a different view than his, calling them racist. That would be the media response, Jacob Rees Mogg or no. Just look at Bernier.

 

ETA- maybe that's why they DON'T speak up very much, they know what would happen. I certainly can never discuss my personal views at work, or even around most of my family. Because they are being totally brainwashed. There is no way I could explain it to them, I'd be labelled just another racist old man.

Edited September 8, 2018 by OftenWrong

[scribblet]

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/09/islamic-state-threatens-sweden-democrats-leader-we-will-behead-you-if-you-do-not-withdraw-from-the-election

The Jihadists are getting worried about Swedish elections

meanwhile, in the U.K., this is the evil the U.K. is importing into their society and but want to hush it up

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6147819/Young-girl-passed-sex-100-Asian-men-age-16-trial-hears.html

Edited September 9, 2018 by scribblet

[DogOnPorch]

Ibrahim Ali named as the accused murderer of the missing Vancouver teen. 

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/police-to-share-significant-update-in-murder-of-burnaby-teen-marrisa-shen

[Argus]

2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

Ibrahim Ali named as the accused murderer of the missing Vancouver teen. 

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/police-to-share-significant-update-in-murder-of-burnaby-teen-marrisa-shen

Probably he figured she was a whore walking around in shorts like that.

[Guest]

The Thoughts of Chairman Choudary.  Apparently he's getting out of pokey in the UK in a week or two.

I'm sure he doesn't mean it, right?

“When Sharia law is implemented, maybe in 10 or 15 years’ time, she [the Queen] would be expected like all women in Britain to be covered from head to toe, only revealing her face and hands.”

“Thieves would have various warnings first, and only in cases where he has stolen more than £20 of non-perishable goods from a private house would his hand be chopped off.”

“Under Sharia and under the Koran the sale of alcohol is prohibited and if one were to also drink alcohol, that would be 40 lashes.”

“There will be no more pubs, no more gambling houses, no more national lottery.”

“All women would have to be covered up appropriately and wear the niqab or veil and so there will be no prostitution.”

“By 2050, Britain will be a majority Muslim country. It will be the end of freedom of democracy and submission to God.”

“We don’t believe in democracy, as soon as they have authority, Muslims should implement Sharia. This is what we’re trying to teach people.”

“Next time when your child is at school and the teacher says, ‘What do you want when you grow up? What is your ambition?’ they should say, ‘To dominate the whole world by Islam, including Britain - that is my ambition’.”

Edited September 11, 2018 by bcsapper
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction - Blaise Pascal

[OftenWrong]

2 hours ago, bcsapper said:

The Thoughts of Chairman Choudary.  Apparently he's getting out of pokey in the UK in a week or two.

Will be interesting to see what kind of welcome he gets when he's out.

[dialamah]

2 hours ago, bcsapper said:

The Thoughts of Chairman Choudary.  Apparently he's getting out of pokey in the UK in a week or two

What was he in the pokey for?   

My gut response to those comments is that it's unacceptable and perhaps deportation should be an option.  But then I remember that in many people's opinion, freedom of speech should include expressing ideas that people might generally find extremely objectionable.

So how much of a following does he gave in the UK?  Is it more than followers of White Supremacy ideology in the UK or US?  Regardless, I expect authorities are keeping a pretty close eye on him.

 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, dialamah said:

What was he in the pokey for?   

My gut response to those comments is that it's unacceptable and perhaps deportation should be an option.  But then I remember that in many people's opinion, freedom of speech should include expressing ideas that people might generally find extremely objectionable.

So how much of a following does he gave in the UK?  Is it more than followers of White Supremacy ideology in the UK or US?  Regardless, I expect authorities are keeping a pretty close eye on him.

 

He was in for talking folk into joining ISIS, I think.

I agree with your comment about freedom of speech.  That's his right.  (Except for the incitement that got him locked up in the first place.  That could be treason)

I do think people should be aware of what he says.

I wonder how many, and to what extent, (because I am sure it varies enormously) people agree with him.

I would suggest that followers of white supremacy, (with the same variability of views) are probably proportional to his following, but certainly inversely proportional to the amount of credence he is given by the authorities.  I think we are seeing that a great deal these days.

[DogOnPorch]

52 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

He was in for talking folk into joining ISIS, I think.

I agree with your comment about freedom of speech.  That's his right.  (Except for the incitement that got him locked up in the first place.  That could be treason)

I do think people should be aware of what he says.

I wonder how many, and to what extent, (because I am sure it varies enormously) people agree with him.

I would suggest that followers of white supremacy, (with the same variability of views) are probably proportional to his following, but certainly inversely proportional to the amount of credence he is given by the authorities.  I think we are seeing that a great deal these days.

 

Two of Andy's goons did the beheading of Lee Rigby which was pretty hard for even UK police to ignore.

Edited September 12, 2018 by DogOnPorch

[GostHacked]

11 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Two of Andy's goons did the beheading of Lee Rigby which was pretty hard for even UK police to ignore.

You know who likes to cut heads off? The Saudis.

[Goddess]

 

On 9/10/2018 at 11:03 AM, DogOnPorch said:

Ibrahim Ali named as the accused murderer of the missing Vancouver teen. 

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/police-to-share-significant-update-in-murder-of-burnaby-teen-marrisa-shen

https://www.therebel.media/syrian_refugee_charged_in_murder_of_13_year_old_marrisa_shen_but_only_islamophobes_worry_about_canada_s_lax_security_screening

 

Only been here 3 months........

[DogOnPorch]

27 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

You know who likes to cut heads off? The Saudis.

 

Perhaps you should ask our King to bomb them with our CF-188 Super-planes.

[DogOnPorch]

12 minutes ago, Goddess said:

 

https://www.therebel.media/syrian_refugee_charged_in_murder_of_13_year_old_marrisa_shen_but_only_islamophobes_worry_about_canada_s_lax_security_screening

 

Only been here 3 months........

 

You'll have to go to another country to find a headline like Rebel's. 

Most of our media is pretty much just calling him a Burnaby man. Like a Canadian good ol' boy did it...

 

 

Edited September 12, 2018 by DogOnPorch

[dialamah]

24,999 Syrian refugees have not been accused of killing anyone after being here for almost two years.

24,995 have not been reported engaging in any criminal activity at all.

5 Syrian refugees in the news for criminal behavior, over two years, means that Canada's security is lax, and that we are under threat.

A half dozen stories of Syrian refugees doing well is merely leftist propaganda.

Is that about right?

Edited September 12, 2018 by dialamah

[DogOnPorch]

9 minutes ago, dialamah said:

24,999 Syrian refugees have not been accused of killing anyone after being here for almost two years.

24,995 have not been reported engaging in any criminal activity at all.

5 Syrian refugees in the news for criminal behavior, over two years, means that Canada"s security is lax, and that we are under threat.

A half dozen stories of Syrian refugees doing well is merely leftist propaganda.

Is that about right?

 

You're free to tell that to BC's Chinese community that is taking this rather personally for some odd reason.

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

You're free to tell that to BC's Chinese community that is taking this rather personally for some odd reason.

 

Don't they know about all the good Syrian refugees ?    I'm sure they will wear Marrisa Shen t-shirts to show their support of the refugee program.

[DogOnPorch]

18 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Don't they know about all the good Syrian refugees ?    I'm sure they will wear Marrisa Shen t-shirts to show their support of the refugee program.

 

I love the use of the Skittles argument. So does dialamah.  

[dialamah]

When a male person kills a person of any nationality, do you carefully enumerate that, Dog, and then beat yourself up for being such a criminal?

And you, BC2004: when an American kills a bunch of schoolkids, churchgoers or theatregoers, do you look in the mirror and acknowledge that because you are an American, you are just as guilty as those American killers?

The Syrian refugee should stand trial and if convicted of killing of Marina Chen, serve his sentence and be sent back to Syria.  We have to keep enough white-born-in-Canada convicted killers here, so convicted killers born elsewhere can go back.

Pointing out the double standard of the anti-Islam crew is not the same as defending crimes committed by Muslims.  

[Goddess]

I think the concern is that we were told these people were vetted before they were allowed in.  Clearly that is not the case. 

Very sad that you're trying to make out that this is a Muslim-bashing thing.

[dialamah]

43 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I think the concern is that we were told these people were vetted before they were allowed in.  Clearly that is not the case. 

Very sad that you're trying to make out that this is a Muslim-bashing thing.

I suppose you could be right. 

Perhaps I am just confused because of the history amongst some people of pointing out how dangerous Muslims are every time a Muslim name is in the news.  Maybe its due to their claims of "government\media" hiding the truth if the Muslim name isn't immediately confirmed to be involved in terrorism or of being a sexual predator or cheating the system. 

Maybe my confusion over motivation arises from the way in which positive news stories with Muslim names is, again, claimed to be government/media propaganda and so unusual as to be unbelievable.  And sometimes even spun to cast a negative sheen over a success story. 

Could it be the reliance of some posters on news sources that have a known anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant agenda, that have been known to run falsehoods, that are deeply and irretrievably linked with White Supemacists?

Could all that be why I am confused over the motivations of some of the posters here?

Edited September 12, 2018 by dialamah

[DogOnPorch]

57 minutes ago, dialamah said:

When a male person kills a person of any nationality, do you carefully enumerate that, Dog, and then beat yourself up for being such a criminal?

And you, BC2004: when an American kills a bunch of schoolkids, churchgoers or theatregoers, do you look in the mirror and acknowledge that because you are an American, you are just as guilty as those American killers?

The Syrian refugee should stand trial and if convicted of killing of Marina Chen, serve his sentence and be sent back to Syria.  We have to keep enough white-born-in-Canada convicted killers here, so convicted killers born elsewhere can go back.

Pointing out the double standard of the anti-Islam crew is not the same as defending crimes committed by Muslims.  

 

Twenty-eight year old Syrian refugees murdering 13 year old girls just months into being here is something we should learn to live with. Diversity is our strength...and I feel enriched by this fellow's actions. 

I know you do, too.

[DogOnPorch]

53 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I think the concern is that we were told these people were vetted before they were allowed in.  Clearly that is not the case. 

Very sad that you're trying to make out that this is a Muslim-bashing thing.

 

Still the Quran says to FIGHT the Unbeliever. Not be nice to the Unbeliever.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

And you, BC2004: when an American kills a bunch of schoolkids, churchgoers or theatregoers, do you look in the mirror and acknowledge that because you are an American, you are just as guilty as those American killers?

 

"And you..." ????

No....American "killers" are citizen criminals, not imported from Syria for feel good politics.

 

Quote

The Syrian refugee should stand trial and if convicted of killing of Marina Chen, serve his sentence and be sent back to Syria.  We have to keep enough white-born-in-Canada convicted killers here, so convicted killers born elsewhere can go back.

 

Why can't he just stay in Canada after serving a token Hug-A-Thug® sentence ?    What do you have against Syrian Muslims ?

[GostHacked]

2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Perhaps you should ask our King to bomb them with our CF-188 Super-planes.

Why not, we used them in Libya.  Which I have no doubt you fully supported

[GostHacked]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

"And you..." ????

No....American "killers" are citizen criminals, not imported from Syria for feel good politics.

But then you also invite worse terrorists into the USA ,which are the Saudis.