WWWTT Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 No big story here. Some conservative yes man went to the local land registry office and looked up the history of Mulcairs house. They found out the leans/loans registered against it. Wippy freekin doo-daa!!! Is this the only house this guy owns?I doubt it. Is this the best the conservatives got?Yep sounds like the conservatives are falling off a cliff and they are making a feeble desperate grasp for any twigs to stop their fall on their way down! And while were on the subject of attacking Mulcair,where are all the attack adds the conservatives were promising that they would be releasing to destroy Mulcair and the NDP??? 2015 couldn't come soon enough! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
socialist Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 this is pathetic. the neo-cons fear mulcair so they have to start a thread that makes stuff up. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
jacee Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 It is pathetic. And they are afraid of him. And they should be. Quote
socialist Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 It is pathetic. And they are afraid of him. And they should be. i knew the cons would fear mulcair. its onna be fun watching mulcair expose all th con weaknessess on his way to becoming pm in 2015 Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
Claudius Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 Is this the best the conservatives got?Yep sounds like the conservatives are falling off a cliff and they are making a feeble desperate grasp for any twigs to stop their fall on their way down! Funny. I don't support the conservatives but we've heard this for 8 years now and every election they just get more seats. Quote There is virtually no difference between the 3 major parties once they get into power.
Moonlight Graham Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 This is a really weird story. 11 times??? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
jacee Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 This is a really weird story. 11 times??? In 30 years... I guess they favour the short term rates. This is such a non story it's silly. Quote
bud Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) mulcair can't run a country because he has put his house on mortgage several times? by reversing this, can it be argued that paying $25 billion for overpriced jets that don't work while doing cuts in arts is the same as harper buying himself a prototype ferrari that isn't able to be driven and cancelling his kids' art classes? Edited May 28, 2012 by bud Quote http://whoprofits.org/
Bryan Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 Is this the best the conservatives got?Yep sounds like the conservatives are falling off a cliff and they are making a feeble desperate grasp for any twigs to stop their fall on their way down! Conservatives haven't done or said anything on the matter that I can see. This is Post Media, the same people who have been trotting out fake scandals against the CPC for quite some time now. Looks like they got bored of falsely tarring the Conservatives, and feel it's the NDP's turn. Is it bad etiquette for either the media or political parties to dig up things like a guy's mortgage? Absolutely. This is not something that Post Media should have published. That seems to be their standard M.O. these days though. Now that it is public knowledge, it's a carrot just hanging there for someone to grab, but I can't see any reason why the CPC would use this for any purpose. The worst I would think would happen is if Mulcair gets too aggressive about attacking the CPCs budgeting, an MP might shoot back with "excuse me if I don't take fiscal advice from someone who has had to re-mortgage their house 11 times". If I were them, even if I was planning on using it like that, I'd probably save it for an election campaign. Quote
PIK Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 Bob Rea he is a Liberal. If people on Ontario are scared of him they should be voting for the NDP. I hope Conservatives keep repeating Bob Rea all the way to the election. And I hope mulcair keeps talking all the way to the election. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 No big story here. Some conservative yes man went to the local land registry office and looked up the history of Mulcairs house. They found out the leans/loans registered against it. Wippy freekin doo-daa!!! Is this the only house this guy owns?I doubt it. Is this the best the conservatives got?Yep sounds like the conservatives are falling off a cliff and they are making a feeble desperate grasp for any twigs to stop their fall on their way down! And while were on the subject of attacking Mulcair,where are all the attack adds the conservatives were promising that they would be releasing to destroy Mulcair and the NDP??? 2015 couldn't come soon enough! WWWTT Cons do not need attack ads. mulcair mouth is doing the same job. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Shakeyhands Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 Conservatives haven't done or said anything on the matter that I can see. This is Post Media, the same people who have been trotting out fake scandals against the CPC for quite some time now. Looks like they got bored of falsely tarring the Conservatives, and feel it's the NDP's turn. The Post isn't a Conservative backing paper? Whaaaaaat? But for a short stint (very short..) the Post have been staunch supporters of the CPC and Mr. Harper. Which fabricated scandals have the pushed by the way? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Boges Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 I guess it all depends on what he's refi-ing house for? paying for campaigns? buying cars? paying tuition for his kids? feeding a meth habit ? $300,000 in mortgage debt isn't much for someone with the salary of Mulclair. I'm sure his house is already worth more than that if it's in a nice area of Montreal. I actually have no clue where he lives but since the average real estate in Canada is $300,000 I'll assume he's still in good financial footing. He lives in Stornaway now anyway doesn't he? He can rent out his highly-leveraged place. Quote
August1991 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) Now I agree there can be any number of reasons why you would remortgage your house. But 11 times?Vegas, the successful NDP candidate in Trois-Rivières-Ouest, is proof that politics is a risky game.Mulcair is a risk taker. It makes sense that he would mortgage his house. What did Stephen Harper risk to play the political game? Did Harper even have a mortgage? ---- I am more suspicious of politicians with no skin in the game at all. To use modern terminology, such politicians are completely leveraged. Apparently, Mulcair has (some) equity in his house. So at least Mulcair had a mortgage and was simply leveraging it. Mulcair and his wife have hair, and can suffer a haircut. I am more surprised that Mulcair (and his wife) have any skin in the game at all. The wives of most politicians that I have known, left or right, would never allow this. Well, I'll bet you 2 beer that he will never be PM! I just don't think the federal NDP could attract enough votes from Ontario westward to make that possible.And I'll bet you three beers that Mulcair will become a federal PM - if two things happen:- he takes a haircut and shaves the beard - Justin crosses the floor --- Thomas Mulcair is a great great grandson of Honoré Mercier. Mackenzie King was a grandson of William Lyon Mackenzie, and Henri Bourassa was a grandson of Louis-Joseph Papineau. Thinks like this, surprisingly, sometimes matter. Edited May 28, 2012 by August1991 Quote
August1991 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 We can say one thing about this. It is horrible journalism which shows us where our media has gone.Huh?Voters should be informed. If you were American, would you want John Edwards as your president? Quote
Topaz Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 I really think most Canadians or voters don't really care about the MP's personal finances, unless it hurts them. I would think that not getting OAS and GIS until 67 is more of an issue or targetting workers for EI or the high deficit or the cuts coming down, the high unemployment in this country, or workers getting hit on their pensions except, so far, the MP's, you know stuff like that. Quote
August1991 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) I really think most Canadians or voters don't really care about the MP's personal finances, unless it hurts them. I would think that not getting OAS and GIS until 67 is more of an issue or targetting workers for EI or the high deficit or the cuts coming down, the high unemployment in this country, or workers getting hit on their pensions except, so far, the MP's, you know stuff like that.I tend to agree, Topaz. But there's the rub.We don't know what politicians will do until they're elected, and have power. To choose our leaders, we only have their past record to judge. Edited May 28, 2012 by August1991 Quote
Wilber Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 This is a really weird story. 11 times??? My thoughts as well. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
wyly Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 I guess it all depends on what he's refi-ing house for? paying for campaigns? buying cars? paying tuition for his kids? feeding a meth habit ? $300,000 in mortgage debt isn't much for someone with the salary of Mulclair. I'm sure his house is already worth more than that if it's in a nice area of Montreal. I actually have no clue where he lives but since the average real estate in Canada is $300,000 I'll assume he's still in good financial footing. He lives in Stornaway now anyway doesn't he? He can rent out his highly-leveraged place. only a $300K mortgage(probably at 3-4%) on a salary of $225K what a miser...$300K in calgary will get you a nice condo or maybe(unlikely) a starter home in the poorest part of my city nothing close to what Mulcair has... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Moonbox Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 Has anybody even considered the cost of running a leadership campaign for a federal party, or the costs of an election campaign? It's not cheap. This isn't unusual or cause for concern AT ALL. I'm not a Mulcair or NDP fan by any stretch of the imagination (quite the opposite), but the number of times he's refinanced his mortgage is less than useless as an indicator of his suitability for PM. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Fletch 27 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 And NDP'er just cant change his stripes... Now imagine that little mortgage being the Canadian debt! yikes.. So Jack Layton lived in social housing and Tom Mulcair can't pay off a little mortgage, interesting. Quote
Boges Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 only a $300K mortgage(probably at 3-4%) on a salary of $225K what a miser...$300K in calgary will get you a nice condo or maybe(unlikely) a starter home in the poorest part of my city nothing close to what Mulcair has... Yeah well clearly instead of pocketing the appreciation of his home he's been spending it. With the kind of pension he gets as an MP who needs to save? Eff RRSPs and Equity in your home! Quote
Topaz Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 Here's a more serious question, how did the reporter find out about the credit line from the Bank?? Did they pay off someone ? Quote
Fletch 27 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 At the end of the day, how he got to that extent, how many times, who dug it up or where the house is... The plain and simple fact is that this guy can-not manage money... Quote
Rick Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 Has anybody even considered the cost of running a leadership campaign for a federal party, or the costs of an election campaign? It's not cheap. This isn't unusual or cause for concern AT ALL. I'm not a Mulcair or NDP fan by any stretch of the imagination (quite the opposite), but the number of times he's refinanced his mortgage is less than useless as an indicator of his suitability for PM. Just thought I'd repost this for all of the Fletches out there who can't see reality or look past their conbot notes...Well said Moonbox Quote “This is all about who you represent,” Mr. Dewar (NDP) said. “We’re (NDP) talking about representing the interests of working people and everyday Canadians and they [the Conservatives] are about representing the fund managers who come in and fleece our companies and our country. Voted Maple Leaf Web's 'Most Outstanding Poster' 2011
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