August1991 Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) Me thinks you're not getting my Anglais slang-o-rama.Some 50,000 American men died in Vietnam.Many women or children lost a father or husband. Nowadays, they lost a grandfather - or step-father. Sisters lost a brother. People lost a friend. ---- I'm not American, I was born later than the Vietnam War, but I can think, read and see. I appreciate that American soldiers fought this battle in Vietnam, and America won the Cold War. Imagine! These American men fighting in Vietnam successfully defended liberty. Nowadays, the Soviet Union no longer exists. And Russian girls sleep with American men, because they want to... Or more likely, Russian women sleep with young American men. Edited May 22, 2012 by August1991 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 I'm not American, I was born later than the Vietnam War, but I can think, read and see. I don't know that you can align every east-west cold war conflict with good and evil so easily. How about Nicaragua ? El Salvador ? Chile ? They put those leftists in their place, boy howdy ! Also - you were born after 1975 ? Nowadays, the Soviet Union no longer exists. And Russian girls sleep with American men, because they want to... Or more likely, Russian women sleep with the young man. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
waldo Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 ...the Berlin Wall is no more, and the Iron Curtain has fallen.Twenty years later, too many western Marxist/socialist/leftist anti-Americans have not quite understood the meaning of this change. In short, Americans ultimately won the Vietnam War at first... I just thought this was another venue for August1991 to play out his silly ongoing leftist baiting... at the expense of 'Nam' revisionism. And yet, damnit - "War is Hell"! Hoo-rah! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om0vwhumC8Q#! Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 If America WON the Viet-Nam War, where's South Viet-Nam these days? Plus, the notion that all atheists = Stalin is just plain out-to-lunch. Manny just seems insecure in his apparent faith towards the invisible triple super ghost and needs someone to blame. Put down the matches, Manny. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Manny Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 If America WON the Viet-Nam War, where's South Viet-Nam these days? Plus, the notion that all atheists = Stalin is just plain out-to-lunch. Manny just seems insecure in his apparent faith towards the invisible triple super ghost and needs someone to blame. Put down the matches, Manny. Nice. Thus the notion that all muslims = Osama Bin Laden, or all christians = Pat Robertson, is equally out to lunch. Now that we are on level ground, we can relax. Dog is drooling from both sides of his mouth... Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) Nice. Thus the notion that all muslims = Osama Bin Laden, or all christians = Pat Robertson, is equally out to lunch. Now that we are on level ground, we can relax. Dog is drooling from both sides of his mouth... Seeing that I never made such comparisons does that make you....what? Dumb? Edited May 22, 2012 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
PIK Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 Boomers will remember when the soldiers came home from Nam and some of them to show their views on the war, threw their medals away, well the next generation did the same today in the US. Soldiers who have served in both wars, Afghanistan and Iraq, wanted to give their medals back to NATO, but because of the security surrounding the G8 leaders, they threw them instead. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/veterans-symbolically-discard-medals-anti-nato-rally-235355143.html Were you there, because only people that served would use the term Nam. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
GostHacked Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 Iraq was not a NATO joint. Boomers will remember far more running for the Canadian border as draft dodgers. Are you talking about the 1991 NATO joint in Iraq, or the US go-it-alone joint in 2001? Specifics are nice to know and understand once in a while. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 Were you there, because only people that served would use the term Nam. Awww...c'mon. I think it's cute when seniors from Canada start slinging U.S. war veteran lingo, y'know, like the term "carpet bomb". The power of Anerican media never ceases to amaze me. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
guyser Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 The power of Anerican media never ceases to amaze me. Aint that the truth ! Its power is so great that it changes an RAF term to a USAF one. (although its etymology is shady, most sources put the RAF as first using it then the US Forces) Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 Awww...c'mon. I think it's cute when seniors from Canada start slinging U.S. war veteran lingo, y'know, like the term "carpet bomb". The power of Anerican media never ceases to amaze me. If you recall, the planet's first 'carpet bombing' was to relieve Canadian and British troops around Caen during Operation Cobra/Charnwood. The SS were attacking...tsk, tsk. The 8th AF provided the bulk of the punch. But, we Canadians will forget that in order to smite yea eaval Yanqui dogges. Arf. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Wilber Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 Area bombing goes back to the Spanish Civil War but just when and who coined the the term "carpet bomb", I dunno. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Guest American Woman Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 Area bombing goes back to the Spanish Civil War but just when and who coined the the term "carpet bomb", I dunno. I think the phrase "carpet bombing" originated with the Vietnam war. Quote
Signals.Cpl Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 Are you talking about the 1991 NATO joint in Iraq, or the US go-it-alone joint in 2001? Specifics are nice to know and understand once in a while. 2003 Quote Hope for the Best, Prepare for the Worst
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 Area bombing goes back to the Spanish Civil War but just when and who coined the the term "carpet bomb", I dunno. Caen 1944. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest American Woman Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) Caen 1944. Evidently it was 1944; I had thought it originated with Vietnam, but perhaps that's because it was referred to so often during that time. Edited May 22, 2012 by American Woman Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 Trust your dog. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) Plus...to clarify. "Carpet bombing" is the mass use of strategic assets for tactical purposes. B-52s at Khe Sanh and such. Edited May 22, 2012 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Manny Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 Seeing that I never made such comparisons does that make you....what? Dumb? Not at all. I know I come in here, to wear rubber boots. So I won't even bother to address your ad hominem. Your post history shall do that for free, with no expense of time or keystrokes on my part. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 1943 Tunisia campaign. RAF From what I've read, it wasn't referred to as "carpet bombing" until 1944*; I believe the press referred to it as "Tedder's bomb-carpet" re: the Tunisia campaign. *1944 Words: The words of 1944 include "carpet bombing," and according to Merriam Webster: First Known Use of CARPET BOMB 1944 Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 1943 Tunisia campaign. RAF Good call if you pulled that from your noggin'. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 From what I've read, it wasn't referred to as "carpet bombing" until 1944*; I believe the press referred to it as "Tedder's bomb-carpet" re: the Tunisia campaign. *1944 Words: The words of 1944 include "carpet bombing," and according to Merriam Webster: First Known Use of CARPET BOMB 1944 Specifically, it is the mass use of strategic assets to do tactical work. All else is splitting hairs. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest American Woman Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 Specifically, it is the mass use of strategic assets to do tactical work. All else is splitting hairs. I know what it is, and no, it's not splitting hairs since the original comment and subsequent posts were specifically about the term "carpet bombing." Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 I know what it is, and no, it's not splitting hairs since the original comment and subsequent posts were specifically about the term "carpet bombing." I'm not sure if guyser picked it up off of Wikipedia. I was always familiar with Caen as being the famous first use but Tunisia does seem to be an example. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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